Re: The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Thread #3

[Guest]

I say Brooks (not just based on the fact I DO believe my source. I am perfectly aware we could all have been (extremely extremely masterfully) fleissed) .

How is it masterful?  It's just MF obsessed with getting back at RS.  

And me, Love_Me and San?

Trust me,whoever Love_Me and San's source are, mine is not the same as RS!
If he is fooling us, it will have been a masterfull success!

[Guest]

Just wanted to post that this may be my favorite F3 ever.  Each guy, while different, is really, really special.  Truly believe Des would be lucky to wind up with any of the remaining men.

Still, at this point in the show, I would choose Chris or Drew for Des.  Chris and Drew have stated openly that they are falling for her and are there for her.  She’s said repeatedly that her MO is to love the guy more than he loves her, so this is a big issue for her (was for me too).  I believe both Chris and Drew - that they would love her without hesitation or reservation.  I think the video of her crying in the red dress will likely be very significant.  Probably willing to wager, whoever she’s crying about will be her F1.

Spoilers aside, at this point in the show, and in spite of what Des has declared, I think the worst choice for her would be Brooks.  Don’t misunderstand, I think Brooks is a great guy, and within the parameters of the show, also feel he is totally reasonable to want to proceed slowly to be sure of his feelings, etc… But for Des to throw herself into the relationship where there is such a disparity of feelings (and yes, I’ve done this too) in my experience, is a recipe for disaster.

Of course, the most important and seemingly dramatic stuff is yet to come… so we’ll just have to sit and wait for more information.    Can’t wait!!!!

Very well said.  If the guy that she is falling for most is willing to walk away, then that to me is a red flag at this point in her journey.  Again, with spoilers aside, we should look at what the other two are offering her in means that they are willing to fight for her and stick it out to the end.  

Maybe he doesn't walk away. Because it sure sounds like he is completely helpless. "It's the worst day of my life." "There's nothing I can say."

[Rolly]

Sophie, do we ever find out who any of the sources are or are you like journalists and can't reveal them? I would love to know at some point. Maybe if they are show sources they can't be revealed because they wouldn't give info. out for future shows.

[BarbB222]

I say Brooks (not just based on the fact I DO believe my source. I am perfectly aware we could all have been (extremely extremely masterfully) fleissed) .

How is it masterful?  It's just MF obsessed with getting back at RS.  

And me, Love_Me and San?

Trust me,whoever Love_Me and San's source are, mine is not the same as RS!
If he is fooling us, it will have been a masterfull success!

Sophie, I know more than any , it must be so frustrating to know the truth but be doubted. You are in a sort of limbo waiting for the outcome. You cannot reveal your sources but you don't doubt either. Besides watching the Bres connection with my own eyes, your conviction along with Love's and San's is comforting. Thanks.

[Aunties_Love]

Just wanted to post that this may be my favorite F3 ever.  Each guy, while different, is really, really special.  Truly believe Des would be lucky to wind up with any of the remaining men.

Still, at this point in the show, I would choose Chris or Drew for Des.  Chris and Drew have stated openly that they are falling for her and are there for her.  She’s said repeatedly that her MO is to love the guy more than he loves her, so this is a big issue for her (was for me too).  I believe both Chris and Drew - that they would love her without hesitation or reservation.  I think the video of her crying in the red dress will likely be very significant.  Probably willing to wager, whoever she’s crying about will be her F1.

Spoilers aside, at this point in the show, and in spite of what Des has declared, I think the worst choice for her would be Brooks.  Don’t misunderstand, I think Brooks is a great guy, and within the parameters of the show, also feel he is totally reasonable to want to proceed slowly to be sure of his feelings, etc… But for Des to throw herself into the relationship where there is such a disparity of feelings (and yes, I’ve done this too) in my experience, is a recipe for disaster.

Of course, the most important and seemingly dramatic stuff is yet to come… so we’ll just have to sit and wait for more information.    Can’t wait!!!!

We really don't know how Brooks feels (at least in words). We really can't judge him. I love how this whole story about Brooks has been created based on  a few SCs and a few odd edits.

:-) Honestly, we don't really know how any of the leads feel.  Spoilers, SCs and judgment are all we have!

And we judge based on who we want to win, which makes it less than fair and accurate. Just saying.

Isn't that kind of what you are doing? I am just saying that all we do have are the sc's and spoilers at this point. The screencaps and spoilers of Brooks being F1 don't match. BUT the first spoiler of Brooks and Chris being gone and Drew being the F1 does match the sc's that we have been given. SO, what is actually the truth with the proof we NOW have? It does look like the first spoiler may be correct.....

[Guest]

Just wanted to post that this may be my favorite F3 ever.  Each guy, while different, is really, really special.  Truly believe Des would be lucky to wind up with any of the remaining men.

Still, at this point in the show, I would choose Chris or Drew for Des.  Chris and Drew have stated openly that they are falling for her and are there for her.  She’s said repeatedly that her MO is to love the guy more than he loves her, so this is a big issue for her (was for me too).  I believe both Chris and Drew - that they would love her without hesitation or reservation.  I think the video of her crying in the red dress will likely be very significant.  Probably willing to wager, whoever she’s crying about will be her F1.

Spoilers aside, at this point in the show, and in spite of what Des has declared, I think the worst choice for her would be Brooks.  Don’t misunderstand, I think Brooks is a great guy, and within the parameters of the show, also feel he is totally reasonable to want to proceed slowly to be sure of his feelings, etc… But for Des to throw herself into the relationship where there is such a disparity of feelings (and yes, I’ve done this too) in my experience, is a recipe for disaster.

Of course, the most important and seemingly dramatic stuff is yet to come… so we’ll just have to sit and wait for more information.    Can’t wait!!!!

We really don't know how Brooks feels (at least in words). We really can't judge him. I love how this whole story about Brooks has been created based on  a few SCs and a few odd edits.

:-) Honestly, we don't really know how any of the leads feel.  Spoilers, SCs and judgment are all we have!

And we judge based on who we want to win, which makes it less than fair and accurate. Just saying.

Isn't that kind of what you are doing?  I am just saying that all we do have are the sc's and spoilers at this point.  The screencaps and spoilers of Brooks being F1 don't match.  BUT the first spoiler of Brooks and Chris being gone and Drew being the F1 does match the sc's that we have been given.  SO, what is actually the truth with the proof we NOW have?  It does look like the first spoiler may be correct.....

It looks that way, but looks are deceiving. Sure, I am going for Brooks, but I'm also going by the spoilers, so at least I have that.

[moonchild]

Drew sticking around after the FDs seems to be seen as a pesky situation that fans of the other 2 guys want to try to ignore or explain away. It may end up that he is the delayed f3 person or not. For all we know Drew was going to be in the f2 in any case. I don't see Des keeping 3 guys for the LCD/MTP on purpose. Who could possibly be that wishy washy to inflict that on the extra guy or her family?

I could be wrong (it's happened many times  ) but I can only make sense of things if Brooks leaves. I'm assuming he returns at some point and feel at least a couple of things point to that including moving the MTA up a week and letting Des say she's in love with him. My guess is that he comes back the day before the FRC and possible does meet Des' family. I don't feel he'll get a full LCD & MTP if he chooses to leave & come back. I know that's what fans want but they don't usually reward the returnees. In any case I don't see a clean F3 F2 & F1 without at least some trouble on the horizon. If the spoilers are right it all ends well for Brooks but right now it's a little hard to see how it's going to happen.

I'm leaning more towards Brooks' FD and Drew's LCD being cut a little short (still not sure what time of day) this season.

Upon Brooks' return, he will get a combined MTP/LCD, like Dead Ed ( Jillian's F1).

Ed's was a combined FD with Jill meeting his parents but know what you're trying to say. I'm getting a little weary of Brooks right now. If he leaves it annoys me that he's able to come back and jump over the other guys. I know it's all about the heart but I hope Des really is sure about him if he ends up as the f1.

But would it be jumping over? Or just taking the place that's already in her heart? It annoys me that Drew and/or Chris takes BROOKS place when he decides to meltdown and get out of line. If he even does.

I don't really understand the bolded comment.  Brooks did not have to leave just because he's unsure/having questions. What it seems like you're saying it that it's ok for Brooks to leave and then come back to the same position that he was when he left.  Imo, it would be totally unfair for Chris or Drew not to be able to take the opportunity to strenghten their relationship with Des, since Brooks leaves.

Well, Drew & Chris can try to catch up, but I just don't see it happening in such a short time.

I never really believed that Ali was that upset that Frank left. I think she was crying MF-inspired croc tears.

I so agree AC.

[Aunties_Love]

I'm starting to think slow and steady gets the girl.

Hmmmmm... what are you thinking???

Not sure really, but it is one scenario that hasn't happened and it could be either Chris or Drew, sort of.  Looks like Drew will not be totally steady in upcoming episodes but he certainly was slow starting.  It also fits with what she needs.

thanks!  I'm leaning towards Chris or Drew too.

i always have the same thought.well, guess i suspect Drew will being let go, so im gonna go with Chris...lol... but for the love of me, i cant explain why the spoilers on this season doesnt add up with SCs, the edit, and the story line they built. I mean, as much as i want the F2 to win on Em's season, the story line,edit, SCs all supported the confirmed spoilers. But honestly i cant see it this season. Its downward weird.

I agree with this completely. It is like a bit hole that we can't even look down into.

I agree with you both. This season, the edit, screencaps, and general feel of the season is opposite of the Brooks spoiler, yet it is lining up more with the Drew F1 spoiler so where that leaves the season, who knows?

[Guest]

If you had to pick one today....who would you say is final 1?

Chris S. and one boring relationship.

I've never seen Des as a boring girl, but she would be showing herself as such if she picked him. It would be a very blah ending and relationship, but whatever. If Brooks was free I could certainly see them handing him the next Bachelor gig. Girls would line up for blocks to be on his show. I half, maybe even 3/4 wish it would happen. I don't want an ending. I want more Brooks!

[Judiful]

It may look like Brooks is leaving as he sits in the back seat of that car with his eyes all puffy and red from crying, but that does not prove to me he was leaving that Island..All it tells me is he was probably being driven back to his villa from where he had been crying with Desiree. The knock on the door could have been before or after the crying ...it could be Desiree..it could be Chris H, it could be Neil Lane !! It could be maid service...Bahahaha !! How cool for Brooks and Des when he finally realize he's been sprinting towards the finish line all along and had actually reached it without recognizing it. I think I like my scenario .. 

[Guest]

It may look like Brooks is leaving as he sits in the back seat of that car with his eyes all  puffy and red from crying, but that does not prove to me he was leaving that Island..All it tells me is he was probably being driven back to his villa from where he had been crying with Desiree. The knock on the door could have been before or after the crying ...it could be Desiree..it could be Chris H, it could be Neil Lane !!  It could be maid service...Bahahaha !!  How cool for Brooks and Des when he finally realize he's been sprinting towards the finish line all along and had actually reached it without recognizing it. I think I like my scenario .. 

 

Yep. It could be anyone.

I like your scenario, too.

[Guest]

Drew sticking around after the FDs seems to be seen as a pesky situation that fans of the other 2 guys want to try to ignore or explain away. It may end up that he is the delayed f3 person or not. For all we know Drew was going to be in the f2 in any case. I don't see Des keeping 3 guys for the LCD/MTP on purpose. Who could possibly be that wishy washy to inflict that on the extra guy or her family?

I could be wrong (it's happened many times  ) but I can only make sense of things if Brooks leaves. I'm assuming he returns at some point and feel at least a couple of things point to that including moving the MTA up a week and letting Des say she's in love with him. My guess is that he comes back the day before the FRC and possible does meet Des' family. I don't feel he'll get a full LCD & MTP if he chooses to leave & come back. I know that's what fans want but they don't usually reward the returnees. In any case I don't see a clean F3 F2 & F1 without at least some trouble on the horizon. If the spoilers are right it all ends well for Brooks but right now it's a little hard to see how it's going to happen.

I'm leaning more towards Brooks' FD and Drew's LCD being cut a little short (still not sure what time of day) this season.

Upon Brooks' return, he will get a combined MTP/LCD, like Dead Ed ( Jillian's F1).

Ed's was a combined FD with Jill meeting his parents but know what you're trying to say. I'm getting a little weary of Brooks right now. If he leaves it annoys me that he's able to come back and jump over the other guys. I know it's all about the heart but I hope Des really is sure about him if he ends up as the f1.

But would it be jumping over? Or just taking the place that's already in her heart? It annoys me that Drew and/or Chris takes BROOKS place when he decides to meltdown and get out of line. If he even does.

I don't really understand the bolded comment.  Brooks did not have to leave just because he's unsure/having questions. What it seems like you're saying it that it's ok for Brooks to leave and then come back to the same position that he was when he left.  Imo, it would be totally unfair for Chris or Drew not to be able to take the opportunity to strenghten their relationship with Des, since Brooks leaves.

I mean dates, as in ones he would've had.

But the thing is, it's not about position. It's about whom she loves. If Des is still his in her heart then that's that.

They will have had as much opportunity as Brooks did up to that crucial point. Either they're in her heart, or they're not.

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