Bachelorette Desiree Hartsock picks Brooks Forester

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My source can confirm that Desiree picked Brooks at the FRC and Chris is the F2 guy.

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Ed and Jillian lived together for a year. Them not working out had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened on the show. In fact, any relationship from this show that lasts half a year should be considered a HUGE success.  JMO

The premise of this show is to find love, get engaged and get married. It's not a show about two people living together for half a year or a year and then breaking up. That would be more like a dating reality show.  What the track record of this show indicates, is that it's not realistic to expect to fall in love forever after just eight weeks.  I think most of the time these couples go back into the real world and look at each other and wonder - why am I with this person that I don't even really know?

It is the premise, but I wish it wasn't.  I watch hoping for falling in love, not marriage.  I wish there  wasn't a proposal and if I see people fall in love enough to really give it a go in real life I think it's a success.


Of the recent Bachelorettes I've watched - Jillian, Ali, Ashley, Emily - there were 2 year long relationships where someone moved so they could be together, 1 marriage and one joke (that was likely when she was picked IMO).   3 out of 4 successes is good to me.  So all the talk of abysmal tack records really only apply to Bachelors to me.  The Bachelorettes are great at picking at last someone they want to try with.  I hope for the same from Desiree.  

I actually agree with you.  That's why I also wish there didn't have to be a proposal at the end. I think it would be so much better to just let the couple transition into real life and not have the pressure of an engagement and impending marriage at that point. I don't think you can set a timeline for people to fall in love. It doesn't work that way.  It can happen right at the start, love at first sight, or it can take a while. There is no flexibility in the show's time schedule.  That's why so many seem to fall under the spell of the bubble effect. Then they get back into real life and wonder what on earth happened!

I have been enjoying the Bachelorettes much more than the Bachelors. They seem to do a much better job.  But I am not sure that a year long relationship is really a success. Even in real life, that wouldn't be considered much.

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Ed and Jillian lived together for a year. Them not working out had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened on the show. In fact, any relationship from this show that lasts half a year should be considered a HUGE success.  JMO

The premise of this show is to find love, get engaged and get married. It's not a show about two people living together for half a year or a year and then breaking up. That would be more like a dating reality show.  What the track record of this show indicates, is that it's not realistic to expect to fall in love forever after just eight weeks.  I think most of the time these couples go back into the real world and look at each other and wonder - why am I with this person that I don't even really know?

It is the premise, but I wish it wasn't.  I watch hoping for falling in love, not marriage.  I wish there  wasn't a proposal and if I see people fall in love enough to really give it a go in real life I think it's a success.


Of the recent Bachelorettes I've watched - Jillian, Ali, Ashley, Emily - there were 2 year long relationships where someone moved so they could be together, 1 marriage and one joke (that was likely when she was picked IMO).   3 out of 4 successes is good to me.  So all the talk of abysmal tack records really only apply to Bachelors to me.  The Bachelorettes are great at picking at last someone they want to try with.  I hope for the same from Desiree.  

I actually agree with you.  That's why I also wish there didn't have to be a proposal at the end. I think it would be so much better to just let the couple transition into real life and not have the pressure of an engagement and impending marriage at that point. I don't think you can set a timeline for people to fall in love. It doesn't work that way.  It can happen right at the start, love at first sight, or it can take a while. There is no flexibility in the show's time schedule.  That's why so many seem to fall under the spell of the bubble effect. Then they get back into real life and wonder what on earth happened!

I have been enjoying the Bachelorettes much more than the Bachelors. They seem to do a much better job.  But I am not sure that a year long relationship is really a success. Even in real life, that wouldn't be considered much.  

I respectfully disagree. I believe a year is a long time. Especially after being in "the bubble". JMHO

[Guest]

Ed and Jillian lived together for a year. Them not working out had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened on the show. In fact, any relationship from this show that lasts half a year should be considered a HUGE success.  JMO

The premise of this show is to find love, get engaged and get married. It's not a show about two people living together for half a year or a year and then breaking up. That would be more like a dating reality show.  What the track record of this show indicates, is that it's not realistic to expect to fall in love forever after just eight weeks.  I think most of the time these couples go back into the real world and look at each other and wonder - why am I with this person that I don't even really know?

It is the premise, but I wish it wasn't.  I watch hoping for falling in love, not marriage.  I wish there  wasn't a proposal and if I see people fall in love enough to really give it a go in real life I think it's a success.


Of the recent Bachelorettes I've watched - Jillian, Ali, Ashley, Emily - there were 2 year long relationships where someone moved so they could be together, 1 marriage and one joke (that was likely when she was picked IMO).   3 out of 4 successes is good to me.  So all the talk of abysmal tack records really only apply to Bachelors to me.  The Bachelorettes are great at picking at last someone they want to try with.  I hope for the same from Desiree.  

I actually agree with you.  That's why I also wish there didn't have to be a proposal at the end. I think it would be so much better to just let the couple transition into real life and not have the pressure of an engagement and impending marriage at that point. I don't think you can set a timeline for people to fall in love. It doesn't work that way.  It can happen right at the start, love at first sight, or it can take a while. There is no flexibility in the show's time schedule.  That's why so many seem to fall under the spell of the bubble effect. Then they get back into real life and wonder what on earth happened!

I have been enjoying the Bachelorettes much more than the Bachelors. They seem to do a much better job.  But I am not sure that a year long relationship is really a success. Even in real life, that wouldn't be considered much.  

I respectfully disagree. I believe a year is a long time. Especially after being in "the bubble". JMHO

Sorry I'm kind of responding to myself here and am totally of topic but anyways I need to stop thinking about what's coming up on Mon. So, if we count a year long relationship + living together as a real relationship (at least true effort to see if it will work long term) then of 8 Bachelorettes we have:

2 marriages
3 relationships
3 no-go's (Emily, Jen and Deanna)

So 5 out of 8 succeed in a love match which is about a 60%. I'd call that pretty good. I wonder why the women handle this so much better than the men? Or is it just that they pick different types as leads and if so why?. As people, I usually love the Bachelorettes and am quite uninterested in the Bachelors who usually bore me. Just a strange observation.

[Guest]

Ed and Jillian lived together for a year. Them not working out had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened on the show. In fact, any relationship from this show that lasts half a year should be considered a HUGE success.  JMO

The premise of this show is to find love, get engaged and get married. It's not a show about two people living together for half a year or a year and then breaking up. That would be more like a dating reality show.  What the track record of this show indicates, is that it's not realistic to expect to fall in love forever after just eight weeks.  I think most of the time these couples go back into the real world and look at each other and wonder - why am I with this person that I don't even really know?

It is the premise, but I wish it wasn't.  I watch hoping for falling in love, not marriage.  I wish there  wasn't a proposal and if I see people fall in love enough to really give it a go in real life I think it's a success.


Of the recent Bachelorettes I've watched - Jillian, Ali, Ashley, Emily - there were 2 year long relationships where someone moved so they could be together, 1 marriage and one joke (that was likely when she was picked IMO).   3 out of 4 successes is good to me.  So all the talk of abysmal tack records really only apply to Bachelors to me.  The Bachelorettes are great at picking at last someone they want to try with.  I hope for the same from Desiree.  

I actually agree with you.  That's why I also wish there didn't have to be a proposal at the end. I think it would be so much better to just let the couple transition into real life and not have the pressure of an engagement and impending marriage at that point. I don't think you can set a timeline for people to fall in love. It doesn't work that way.  It can happen right at the start, love at first sight, or it can take a while. There is no flexibility in the show's time schedule.  That's why so many seem to fall under the spell of the bubble effect. Then they get back into real life and wonder what on earth happened!

I have been enjoying the Bachelorettes much more than the Bachelors. They seem to do a much better job.  But I am not sure that a year long relationship is really a success. Even in real life, that wouldn't be considered much.  

I respectfully disagree. I believe a year is a long time. Especially after being in "the bubble". JMHO

Sorry I'm kind of responding to myself here and am totally of topic but anyways I need to stop thinking about what's coming up on Mon.   So, if we count a year long relationship + living together as a real relationship (at least true effort to see if it will work long term) then of 8 Bachelorettes we have:

2 marriages
3 relationships
3 no-go's (Emily, Jen and Deanna)

So 5 out of 8 succeed in a love match which is about a 60%.  I'd call that pretty good.  I wonder why the women handle this so much better than the men?  Or is it just that they pick different types as leads and if so why?.  As people, I usually love the Bachelorettes and am quite uninterested in the Bachelors who usually bore me. Just a strange observation.

Because men have a need to compete. When they win on the bachelorette, they continue to bask in the victory. When they are the bach and pick the girl, they didn't win and will go on to more conquests. Sorry if that sounds cynical on the male brain.  

[Tiggerlgh]

Ed and Jillian lived together for a year. Them not working out had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened on the show. In fact, any relationship from this show that lasts half a year should be considered a HUGE success.  JMO

The premise of this show is to find love, get engaged and get married. It's not a show about two people living together for half a year or a year and then breaking up. That would be more like a dating reality show.  What the track record of this show indicates, is that it's not realistic to expect to fall in love forever after just eight weeks.  I think most of the time these couples go back into the real world and look at each other and wonder - why am I with this person that I don't even really know?

It is the premise, but I wish it wasn't.  I watch hoping for falling in love, not marriage.  I wish there  wasn't a proposal and if I see people fall in love enough to really give it a go in real life I think it's a success.


Of the recent Bachelorettes I've watched - Jillian, Ali, Ashley, Emily - there were 2 year long relationships where someone moved so they could be together, 1 marriage and one joke (that was likely when she was picked IMO).   3 out of 4 successes is good to me.  So all the talk of abysmal tack records really only apply to Bachelors to me.  The Bachelorettes are great at picking at last someone they want to try with.  I hope for the same from Desiree.  

I actually agree with you.  That's why I also wish there didn't have to be a proposal at the end. I think it would be so much better to just let the couple transition into real life and not have the pressure of an engagement and impending marriage at that point. I don't think you can set a timeline for people to fall in love. It doesn't work that way.  It can happen right at the start, love at first sight, or it can take a while. There is no flexibility in the show's time schedule.  That's why so many seem to fall under the spell of the bubble effect. Then they get back into real life and wonder what on earth happened!

I have been enjoying the Bachelorettes much more than the Bachelors. They seem to do a much better job.  But I am not sure that a year long relationship is really a success. Even in real life, that wouldn't be considered much.  

I respectfully disagree. I believe a year is a long time. Especially after being in "the bubble". JMHO

Sorry I'm kind of responding to myself here and am totally of topic but anyways I need to stop thinking about what's coming up on Mon.   So, if we count a year long relationship + living together as a real relationship (at least true effort to see if it will work long term) then of 8 Bachelorettes we have:

2 marriages
3 relationships
3 no-go's (Emily, Jen and Deanna)

So 5 out of 8 succeed in a love match which is about a 60%.  I'd call that pretty good.  I wonder why the women handle this so much better than the men?  Or is it just that they pick different types as leads and if so why?.  As people, I usually love the Bachelorettes and am quite uninterested in the Bachelors who usually bore me. Just a strange observation.

Without trying to be crude I think the bachelors pick more with one part of their anatomy whereas the women use their brain and heart.

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I agree Tiggerigh!

[Guest]

Ed and Jillian lived together for a year. Them not working out had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened on the show. In fact, any relationship from this show that lasts half a year should be considered a HUGE success.  JMO

The premise of this show is to find love, get engaged and get married. It's not a show about two people living together for half a year or a year and then breaking up. That would be more like a dating reality show.  What the track record of this show indicates, is that it's not realistic to expect to fall in love forever after just eight weeks.  I think most of the time these couples go back into the real world and look at each other and wonder - why am I with this person that I don't even really know?

It is the premise, but I wish it wasn't.  I watch hoping for falling in love, not marriage.  I wish there  wasn't a proposal and if I see people fall in love enough to really give it a go in real life I think it's a success.


Of the recent Bachelorettes I've watched - Jillian, Ali, Ashley, Emily - there were 2 year long relationships where someone moved so they could be together, 1 marriage and one joke (that was likely when she was picked IMO).   3 out of 4 successes is good to me.  So all the talk of abysmal tack records really only apply to Bachelors to me.  The Bachelorettes are great at picking at last someone they want to try with.  I hope for the same from Desiree.  

I actually agree with you.  That's why I also wish there didn't have to be a proposal at the end. I think it would be so much better to just let the couple transition into real life and not have the pressure of an engagement and impending marriage at that point. I don't think you can set a timeline for people to fall in love. It doesn't work that way.  It can happen right at the start, love at first sight, or it can take a while. There is no flexibility in the show's time schedule.  That's why so many seem to fall under the spell of the bubble effect. Then they get back into real life and wonder what on earth happened!

I have been enjoying the Bachelorettes much more than the Bachelors. They seem to do a much better job.  But I am not sure that a year long relationship is really a success. Even in real life, that wouldn't be considered much.  

I respectfully disagree. I believe a year is a long time. Especially after being in "the bubble". JMHO

in real life a year isn't much but bachelor time is like dog years.  

[Nativenewyorker]

Ed and Jillian lived together for a year. Them not working out had absolutely zero to do with anything that happened on the show. In fact, any relationship from this show that lasts half a year should be considered a HUGE success.  JMO

The premise of this show is to find love, get engaged and get married. It's not a show about two people living together for half a year or a year and then breaking up. That would be more like a dating reality show.  What the track record of this show indicates, is that it's not realistic to expect to fall in love forever after just eight weeks.  I think most of the time these couples go back into the real world and look at each other and wonder - why am I with this person that I don't even really know?

It is the premise, but I wish it wasn't.  I watch hoping for falling in love, not marriage.  I wish there  wasn't a proposal and if I see people fall in love enough to really give it a go in real life I think it's a success.


Of the recent Bachelorettes I've watched - Jillian, Ali, Ashley, Emily - there were 2 year long relationships where someone moved so they could be together, 1 marriage and one joke (that was likely when she was picked IMO).   3 out of 4 successes is good to me.  So all the talk of abysmal tack records really only apply to Bachelors to me.  The Bachelorettes are great at picking at last someone they want to try with.  I hope for the same from Desiree.  

I actually agree with you.  That's why I also wish there didn't have to be a proposal at the end. I think it would be so much better to just let the couple transition into real life and not have the pressure of an engagement and impending marriage at that point. I don't think you can set a timeline for people to fall in love. It doesn't work that way.  It can happen right at the start, love at first sight, or it can take a while. There is no flexibility in the show's time schedule.  That's why so many seem to fall under the spell of the bubble effect. Then they get back into real life and wonder what on earth happened!

I have been enjoying the Bachelorettes much more than the Bachelors. They seem to do a much better job.  But I am not sure that a year long relationship is really a success. Even in real life, that wouldn't be considered much.  

I respectfully disagree. I believe a year is a long time. Especially after being in "the bubble". JMHO

in real life a year isn't much but bachelor time is like dog years.  

I definitely agree that a year in real life is nothing!

[chiliwhili]

I personally think Des just seems too happy, bursting with her secret, and telling everyone it was worth it, for it not to be Brooks in the end.

[Shadow]

I don't know if this is the right thread, but Food for thought....

Here's  my take on why I think Brooks may be th F1 and the spoiler that was given to the audience on the HTD episode.  Looking back at Ali and Ashley season there was always an episode that gave who the F1 was before the FRC.  In Ali's season it was the Lion King date.  When the guys where gointg thru the stage door the camera pan to the no. 1 over  the door right at the time Roberto passed thru, it was guick but there, also, the winner of that date would be performing on that stage, and we all know Roberto was the one who performed with Ali, and her F1.  With Ashley, she just about told JP he was the one in episode six Hong Kong.  When she told him the reason she wanted him to know about Bentley so that when everything was over he would know what had really happened.  (meaning the show)  Now for Des.  

These are mostly VO sometimes you see her say and sometimes it said over different guys.  On her sit down with CH right before the RC she tells Chris:  "HTDs went well, I would be lucky to be in any one of those families"  They chat about some of the dates and Chris ask her again about her feelings for Brooks and again she express that she loves Brooks, but, he has not told her that he loves her yet.  She also told Chris that she is not worried about hearing it  from Brooks as long as she feels it from him.
Chris S. has no problems telling her and showing her.  Drew said it to her on their date very boldly.  And Zak said it to her and gave her a promise ring.  Chris H then told her that she just had all the guys falling at her feet.  They finished their conversation and he left to escort the guys in.

This is the part that I find interesting, This is all said by Des as Chris H is escorting the guys to the RC room.

Des standing in the viewing room looking at all five pictures of the guys.  Des: "I don't think anyone of them is expecting a good bye and that makes it harder.  The decision I am going to make tonight is going to be difficult.  I am at a stage where I am in a relationship with these guys and I have strong feelings.  I am feeling for them and they have expressed their feelings for me, so it is going to be really hard for me to say good bye to someone and break their heart potentially". At the same time she is sayng this they show Chris walking int the door being welcomed by CH.  Camera then goes back to Des and she is holding the picture of Drew while she was making that statement.

Des: now holding Chris picture, "I wanted everyone from the beginning to take it seriously and to really think about if I am going to be the right girl for them, and now that we are at this point when the guys are taking it seriously adds more pressure ." (Drew walking in hotel) Camera really zero in on him at the taking it seriously adds more pressure mark.

Back in the viewing room while holding Drews' picture, but saying
"the person going home tonight will be completely shocked.  It is not about getting to know one another anymore, it is really about can we make this work in the future, can we make this work day to day and finding out who is going to be best for me."

Holding Zak picture in viewing room, but saying as Brooks walks in "I am here for one man and one man alone. At the end of this I will be one happy girl there is nothing holding me back from finding my husband "(Full view of Brooks and CH walking from door to elevator/room)  Right as she says "nothing holding me back from finding my husband" camera span to Nate behind a post watching Brooks and CH walking in.   She never picks up Brooks picture or least it is never shown.  

It may mean somethng or it may mean nothing.  But, I just thought it was interesting.  :Smiley:

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