Re: The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Thread #3

[Aunties_Love]

Who do we think knocked on his door?  Des?

I thought so before. But now his room has been sleuthed at St James but the des conversation with crying etc. took place on the pier at the verandah. Why would she go to his room at st james and then drive him a good 15 to 20 minutes to the verandah ? It was possibly someone else. Since the only other person they give face time on this show is CH.

Besides, I still don't get the whole going from St James to the veranda resort to have that crying conversation. If he wanted to tell her something wouldn't he have informed production and had her come to st James and spoken to her there ? Something like frank with Ali where Ali went to his room and got the news. Or if it was actually Des telling him something then wouldn't she go to St james and talk to him there ?
Where does the veranda come into it all ? Because Des crying at the pier and Brooks pacing happened at the veranda.

Good question.  I've asked myself why was Des at the Veranda where Drew was staying.  It doesn't make sense.

Forgot about that. Thanks.

There is no reason to meet at the veranda for a date. It is not even that close to st james club. Unless one of our Antigua specialists can suggest that there is an activity that you need to get to from the veranda resort - I'm not getting the sequence at all.

ETA : some of you are going to get pissed with me but I couldn't resist - perhaps she does have a date with Brooks so instead of going there to pick him up,   sent someone to St James club to go get him for her date to the veranada. Meanwhile she went to check to see if Drew was doing ok that morning

The reason I could see Des being at the Verandah is that she was suppose to have a date with Drew when Brooks interupted it. I believe the beach scene comes into play here as Des is still distraught when she comes to meet with Drew for their FD. I am thinking that there is actually a problem with the film chart maybe and that Drew was suppose to have the middle date and Brooks interupted it to tell Des that he's leaving. The beach scene is an extension of Des's meltdown and Drew helps her through it....I also think that the line of "It's not going to work" or something along that is because Brooks has left and if he leaves this close to the finale, then Brooks and Des thing is not going to work. I also think that Drew is trying to reassure Des that he's staying.

[Guest]

I believe that Brooks doesn't leave because he questions his feelings for Des but because some piece of news brings him back home.  He seems surprised to see whomever is on the other side of the door.  Then he is shown crying and upset then he talks to Des and tells her he needs to go home.  At some point we hear him saying this is the worst day of my life.  Possibly because not only does he need to leave the show when he is "running toward the finish line" but he has also received some bad news from home.  I think the edit is just to make the viewers doubt that Brooks is as in love as Des has admitted to being.  Just my guess at the sequence of events.

If he had a family emergency wouldn't Des be more understanding?  That's why I've ruled that out in my mind.
I think it's a conversation they have about a proposal at the end.  He is uncertain about proposing, she is upset.

It's really annoying that we have to wait over two weeks to find out!

I've already said that weeks ago. Yes, she would. I'm quite sure it's no family emergency. I don't even know if it's really any big deal at all. I think TPTB could just be pulling the wool over everyone's eyes with those SCs. :Smiley: 

[nannymargie]

nd4., it looks like Des has on some beige flat sandals from what I can tell.

[Aunties_Love]

I think if Brooks leaves and crashes the FRC, it may seem romantic at the moment, but will creates so much doubt, especially after it airs. Their post show time will be full of doubters.

Agree with this.

It will all depend on the reason for his departure if he is the one that gets the cold-feet.

I still don't think that veranda scene nor the scene where she is standing and crying in front of Brooks read that he was the one stepping away though rather her. But if that is the case then again she will seem even more wishy washy when she takes him back. Time will tell.
But to make the spoilers come true one of those scenarios has to happen.

The problem that I have with the "official" 2nd Spoiler is not that Brooks is F1, but that Chris is F2.  Check out the position of the guys pictures where Chris H. interviews Des in Portugal.  You will notice that Michael, Zak and Chris are at the bottom and Drew and Brooks are at the top.  We know that Michael eliminated at the Portugal RC, we also know that Zak will be eliminated during the HTD RC.  According the the picture position Chris was supposed to be eliminated at FD RC, but something happens (Brooks leaves???) and he moves up to F2 and Drew F1.  We have SCs that show both Chris and Drew had LCDs so we can safely assume that they got the MTPs dates also.  So we have Chris and Drew going into the FRC as the F2 guys.  At the FRC, Chris gets eliminated at F2 (SCs of Chris rubbing eyes in limo) so Drew is expected to become F1.  BUT, Brooks returns and Des decides to accept Brooks has her F1.  That would then make Drew F2....not Chris.  Chris would be F2 if Drew is F1.  That is why I think that something is off with the 2nd Spoiler.  I completely agree with the bolded. Somehow, the first spoiler that came out keeps nagging at me that it may actually be the correct spoiler. I guess time will tell, but we do have LCD and FD caps for both Drew and Chris, none for Brooks and I really don't think that it can be disputed due to the caps we have.

[Aunties_Love]

I think if Brooks leaves and crashes the FRC, it may seem romantic at the moment, but will creates so much doubt, especially after it airs. Their post show time will be full of doubters.

Agree with this.

It will all depend on the reason for his departure if he is the one that gets the cold-feet.

I still don't think that veranda scene nor the scene where she is standing and crying in front of Brooks read that he was the one stepping away though rather her. But if that is the case then again she will seem even more wishy washy when she takes him back. Time will tell.
But to make the spoilers come true one of those scenarios has to happen.

The problem that I have with the "official" 2nd Spoiler is not that Brooks is F1, but that Chris is F2.  Check out the position of the guys pictures where Chris H. interviews Des in Portugal.  You will notice that Michael, Zak and Chris are at the bottom and Drew and Brooks are at the top.  We know that Michael eliminated at the Portugal RC, we also know that Zak will be eliminated during the HTD RC.  According the the picture position Chris was supposed to be eliminated at FD RC, but something happens (Brooks leaves???) and he moves up to F2 and Drew F1.  We have SCs that show both Chris and Drew had LCDs so we can safely assume that they got the MTPs dates also.  So we have Chris and Drew going into the FRC as the F2 guys.  At the FRC, Chris gets eliminated at F2 (SCs of Chris rubbing eyes in limo) so Drew is expected to become F1.  BUT, Brooks returns and Des decides to accept Brooks has her F1.  That would then make Drew F2....not Chris.  Chris would be F2 if Drew is F1.  That is why I think that something is off with the 2nd Spoiler.  

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i believe from what ive seen and analyzed, Des will pull a Chris L on Drew at LCD. so at the FRC there will be only 2 guys shows up that is Brooks and Chris. so the 2nd spoiler can be true

The thing with the bolded is that we do have a night portion of Drew and Des kissing at the Verandah which is presumed to be the night portion of the LCD due to the standards of a FD suite versus the LCD suite. I don't think that can be blown off as easily as other caps. We need to keep in mind that the only caps we do have are for Chris and Drew, which supports the first spoiler we had.

[Aunties_Love]

Hey all, I just want to let you know that Aunties_Love has lost her grandmother; and, eventho she maybe on the boards (it helps to keep her busy), our prayers are needed.  

So sorry to hear this.  Thanks for letting us know.

That's so sad. Sending good thoughts & prayers her way.   

Thanks everyone!   I am here, but maybe not all of me. LOL. Thanks for your thoughts!!

[Guest]

What do people think about Des saying to Catherine and the girls - that Drew was the best kisser ?  Was the name spliced in - or kind of odd that she would say that - and be head over heels in love with Brooks...

Err... my husband (sorry sweetie) is not the best kisser among all the guys (not that many) I kissed before I married him... but that's not how you chose a husband! Whoever she is with now (ahem... Brooks) has I hope more confidence in their relationship than to worry about who she says has the best kissing or body or whatever!

[Guest]

What do people think about Des saying to Catherine and the girls - that Drew was the best kisser ?  Was the name spliced in - or kind of odd that she would say that - and be head over heels in love with Brooks...

Err... my husband (sorry sweetie) is not the best kisser among all the guys (not that many) I kissed before I married him... but that's not how you chose a husband! Whoever she is with now (ahem... Brooks) has I hope more confidence in their relationship than to worry about who she says has the best kissing or body or whatever!

My husband isn't the best kisser I've ever experienced, either.

 

[Guest]

What do people think about Des saying to Catherine and the girls - that Drew was the best kisser ?  Was the name spliced in - or kind of odd that she would say that - and be head over heels in love with Brooks...

Err... my husband (sorry sweetie) is not the best kisser among all the guys (not that many) I kissed before I married him... but that's not how you chose a husband! Whoever she is with now (ahem... Brooks) has I hope more confidence in their relationship than to worry about who she says has the best kissing or body or whatever!

My husband isn't the best kisser I've ever experienced, either.

 

I hope you're husbands aren't on here!!   

[SueSt]

I've been around in real life, and MYSELF have been in a situation where I wasn't ready (the Des/Brooks dinner conversation about love and HTDs brought back memories. THAT look on Brooks' face was mine years ago...). I've even let things progress because I thought I was going to get there....it didn't happen. Years later I met the right one, we both didn't waver.

Good points, Ariela. I knew my husband was the right one after the first date... didn't know we'd end up together, but I knew he was special. The fact that Brooks is not (yet?) sure makes me question him and the possible F1 outcome. Still Jason wavered, big time, and look what happened there.

[latergator]

F3 is normally the hardest to let go, the one that if they hadn't fallen for F1, it could have been them.  

in DeAnna's season, there is no denying that Graham was her F1.  she has stated it over and over from her season till now. she has also said her final four in order of going as of the hometown dates was... Jesse F4, Jeremy F3, Jason F2 and Graham F1.  Jesse was put in default position of F1 so the show could finish (her words, not mine), although she cared deeply about Jeremy, she was not in love with him and could not do that to him (take him to the finish only to reject him.  better to let him go at F3).  Jason was groomed for next bachelor early in the show, no love interest there.

Here we are in Des' season and the rundown that I see is
F4= Zak... good friend but nothing romantically to build on.  
F3= Drew...he is that person that if things were just a little different... if she hadn't already fallen for ______, it could have been him sort of thing. The "I love you" guy but not the "I'm in love with you and I want to see where this goes" guy.
F2= Chris... the great friend, the confidant, someone to talk to when life gets confusing. We have so many things in common, I totally respect you and we will be friends forever guy.
F1=Brooks... from the moment of their first date, even from their first meeting, he was the one that intrigues her, that seems to understand where and what she is, the one that completes the other half of her heart or psyche.  He is the person that she sees future with, wants to see where they could end up.

I'm thinking that somehow Brooks has a meltdown about if he is ready to propose, he thinks he is "jogging" while she is already "running to the finish line".  perhaps he feels the best thing to do for Des is to back out, that she deserves to have someone get down on one knee and propose.  he knows that Drew and Chris both have professed their love for her already, and he is feeling guilty that he cannot possibly do that for her yet.  he expressed in their first one on one date how painful it was to love someone and then have it fall apart, but he was ready to open himself to the possibility of that again.  he has admitted that he is "jogging" on their last date, that he would have to be sure in order to have her meet his family.  apparently he resolved that cause he said at the fireworks that he wanted her to meet his family.  I believe that he just becomes overwhelmed with the prospect of both getting her and possibly losing her.  I don't know who comes to the door of his room, could be Des' brother or even Brooks dad making him question himself.

so, to sum it up for me... 
Brooks is having serious second thoughts about not being on the same level with Des at the end of this.  knock on the door, whoever it is there causes him to think and rethink his situation.  perhaps a conversation about relationships, doing the right thing etc.  he begins to think the best thing for Des is to back out now before too much damage is done.  he goes to Des and they have a discussion and he tells her he must drop out, must leave to give her the best chance at getting love and a proposal.  he leaves to return to his place and then we see all the remorse reactions and crying, questioning himself if he did the right thing.  

Des has the melt down on the pier thinking she will never be happy and what's the use?  she is convinced she needs to continue by tptb. cue up date with Drew (was F3 and now he is advanced to F2 by default) and as perceptive as he is with Des, they have the talk about Brooks. he loves Des but knows that no matter how much he does, she is in love with someone else. Drew is sent home, or more than likely states he must leave for his own good (returns to F3 after all).  that moves Chris up to F1 from F2 and at this point there is no F2.  Brooks somehow gets back to Des and explains that he was an idiot, that he wants a chance to continue with her.  he is given a MTP and LCD (extra couple of days, parents are more than likely still there waiting for the finale), and at the FRC Chris first out of the limo, sent home.  second out is Brooks and he professes has not only run all the way to the finish line (they will probably have him in sneakers again... date 1 in the tux and tennies) and that he not only loves her, he wants her to marry him.
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[Guest]

I've been around in real life, and MYSELF have been in a situation where I wasn't ready (the Des/Brooks dinner conversation about love and HTDs brought back memories. THAT look on Brooks' face was mine years ago...). I've even let things progress because I thought I was going to get there....it didn't happen. Years later I met the right one, we both didn't waver.

Good points, Ariela.  I knew my husband was the right one after the first date... didn't know we'd end up together, but I knew he was special.  The fact that Brooks is not (yet?) sure makes me question him and the possible F1 outcome.  Still Jason wavered, big time, and look what happened there.

We're not quite sure what happens yet. It's not necessarily a fact that he's not sure of anything at the time this occurs. It could be something else. It could be something so minor that is quickly fixed. The editing could be blowing it up all out of proportion.

As long as at the end he knows what he wants and feels, that's all that matters.

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