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Post by Guest Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:48 pm

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nutty1 wrote:I think if Brooks leaves and crashes the FRC, it may seem romantic at the moment, but will creates so much doubt, especially after it airs. Their post show time will be full of doubters.

Agree with this.

It will all depend on the reason for his departure if he is the one that gets the cold-feet.

I still don't think that veranda scene nor the scene where she is standing and crying in front of Brooks read that he was the one stepping away though rather her. But if that is the case then again she will seem even more wishy washy when she takes him back. Time will tell.
But to make the spoilers come true one of those scenarios has to happen.
The problem that I have with the "official" 2nd Spoiler is not that Brooks is F1, but that Chris is F2.  Check out the position of the guys pictures where Chris H. interviews Des in Portugal.  You will notice that Michael, Zak and Chris are at the bottom and Drew and Brooks are at the top.  We know that Michael eliminated at the Portugal RC, we also know that Zak will be eliminated during the HTD RC.  According the the picture position Chris was supposed to be eliminated at FD RC, but something happens (Brooks leaves???) and he moves up to F2 and Drew F1.  We have SCs that show both Chris and Drew had LCDs so we can safely assume that they got the MTPs dates also.  So we have Chris and Drew going into the FRC as the F2 guys.  At the FRC, Chris gets eliminated at F2 (SCs of Chris rubbing eyes in limo) so Drew is expected to become F1.  BUT, Brooks returns and Des decides to accept Brooks has her F1.  That would then make Drew F2....not Chris.  Chris would be F2 if Drew is F1.  That is why I think that something is off with the 2nd Spoiler.  
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i believe from what ive seen and analyzed, Des will pull a Chris L on Drew at LCD. so at the FRC there will be only 2 guys shows up that is Brooks and Chris. so the 2nd spoiler can be true

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Post by nd4reality Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:26 pm

CHO wrote:What do people think about Des saying to Catherine and the girls - that Drew was the best kisser ?  Was the name spliced in - or kind of odd that she would say that - and be head over heels in love with Brooks...

Of course the name could be spliced in. But she said 'the quietest one.....Drew'. Which we know from all accounts he was - the quietest one and she considered him quiet and a bit shy too.
So she definitely did say Drew.


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Post by moonchild Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:31 pm

atem wrote:
2observe wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
nutty1 wrote:I think if Brooks leaves and crashes the FRC, it may seem romantic at the moment, but will creates so much doubt, especially after it airs. Their post show time will be full of doubters.

Agree with this.

It will all depend on the reason for his departure if he is the one that gets the cold-feet.

I still don't think that veranda scene nor the scene where she is standing and crying in front of Brooks read that he was the one stepping away though rather her. But if that is the case then again she will seem even more wishy washy when she takes him back. Time will tell. But to make the spoilers come true one of those scenarios has to happen.
The problem that I have with the "official" 2nd Spoiler is not that Brooks is F1, but that Chris is F2.  Check out the position of the guys pictures where Chris H. interviews Des in Portugal.  You will notice that Michael, Zak and Chris are at the bottom and Drew and Brooks are at the top.  We know that Michael eliminated at the Portugal RC, we also know that Zak will be eliminated during the HTD RC.  According the the picture position Chris was supposed to be eliminated at FD RC, but something happens (Brooks leaves???) and he moves up to F2 and Drew F1.  We have SCs that show both Chris and Drew had LCDs so we can safely assume that they got the MTPs dates also.  So we have Chris and Drew going into the FRC as the F2 guys.  At the FRC, Chris gets eliminated at F2 (SCs of Chris rubbing eyes in limo) so Drew is expected to become F1.  BUT, Brooks returns and Des decides to accept Brooks has her F1.  That would then make Drew F2....not Chris.  Chris would be F2 if Drew is F1.  That is why I think that something is off with the 2nd Spoiler.  

Then why would she say Chris has the best body to Ryan Seacrest and in another interview say she wants a guys that's 'adventurous and understands her', which points to Brooks?  I don't see anything from her post show that indicates that Drew is final one, but that he is a man of faith.

Those pic placements don't mean anything.  Because, she told Chris H. she was falling in love with Chris, not Drew.

Yikes, my head is spinning!!

Regarding the 1st bolded. Wouldn''t that make the most sense why Drew isn't following Brooks or Chris on twitter? (I think that's right, anyway) Chris has mentioned several times on camerl that he sees Brooks and Des' connection. So, he would have to be a least a little prepared for Brooks in the end. Drew has never mentioned it. And we have seen Drew's temper flare with Jamesgate. But, Chris in the limo could be going to the FRC, not leaving.

2nd bolded - she might have said Chris has the best body because she thinks he actually has the best body. Did you see those guns? It's well hidden under his clothing, but not too shabby! That doesn't take away from any of the others, who aren't too shabby themselves.

I'm thinking they are setting Drew up as possible next "B". The heartwarming story about his childhood and his sister. ChisH has already mentioned what a wonderful HTD he had. I'm sure that Drew will have even more fans after tomorrow night. It reminds me a lot of ChrisL....ChrisH said that his HTD was "the best" HTD they had ever done, the heartwarming story about his mother, that we got to hear about on every episode, a huge fan favorite, etc. Not to mention that Drew is incredibly handsome. Has any information come out on why Drew moved to California?


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Post by 2observe Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:33 pm

Hey all, I just want to let you know that Aunties_Love has lost her grandmother; and, eventho she maybe on the boards (it helps to keep her busy), our prayers are needed.
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Post by moonchild Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:38 pm

CHO wrote:What do people think about Des saying to Catherine and the girls - that Drew was the best kisser ?  Was the name spliced in - or kind of odd that she would say that - and be head over heels in love with Brooks...

I definitely think all of those answers could have been mixed up and spliced in. The camera was not on her face when that answer was given......so it well could have been. Plus, that whole conversation sounded very choppy.


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Post by 2observe Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:39 pm

moonchild wrote:
atem wrote:
2observe wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
nutty1 wrote:I think if Brooks leaves and crashes the FRC, it may seem romantic at the moment, but will creates so much doubt, especially after it airs. Their post show time will be full of doubters.

Agree with this.

It will all depend on the reason for his departure if he is the one that gets the cold-feet.

I still don't think that veranda scene nor the scene where she is standing and crying in front of Brooks read that he was the one stepping away though rather her. But if that is the case then again she will seem even more wishy washy when she takes him back. Time will tell. But to make the spoilers come true one of those scenarios has to happen.
The problem that I have with the "official" 2nd Spoiler is not that Brooks is F1, but that Chris is F2.  Check out the position of the guys pictures where Chris H. interviews Des in Portugal.  You will notice that Michael, Zak and Chris are at the bottom and Drew and Brooks are at the top.  We know that Michael eliminated at the Portugal RC, we also know that Zak will be eliminated during the HTD RC.  According the the picture position Chris was supposed to be eliminated at FD RC, but something happens (Brooks leaves???) and he moves up to F2 and Drew F1.  We have SCs that show both Chris and Drew had LCDs so we can safely assume that they got the MTPs dates also.  So we have Chris and Drew going into the FRC as the F2 guys.  At the FRC, Chris gets eliminated at F2 (SCs of Chris rubbing eyes in limo) so Drew is expected to become F1.  BUT, Brooks returns and Des decides to accept Brooks has her F1.  That would then make Drew F2....not Chris.  Chris would be F2 if Drew is F1.  That is why I think that something is off with the 2nd Spoiler.  

Then why would she say Chris has the best body to Ryan Seacrest and in another interview say she wants a guys that's 'adventurous and understands her', which points to Brooks?  I don't see anything from her post show that indicates that Drew is final one, but that he is a man of faith.

Those pic placements don't mean anything.  Because, she told Chris H. she was falling in love with Chris, not Drew.

Yikes, my head is spinning!!

Regarding the 1st bolded.  Wouldn''t that make the most sense why Drew isn't following Brooks or Chris on twitter? (I think that's right, anyway)  Chris has mentioned several times on camerl that he sees Brooks and Des' connection.  So, he would have to be a least a little prepared for Brooks in the end.  Drew has never mentioned it.  And we have seen Drew's temper flare with Jamesgate.  But, Chris in the limo could be going to the FRC, not leaving.  

2nd bolded - she might have said Chris has the best body because she thinks he actually has the best body.  Did you see those guns?  It's well hidden under his clothing, but not too shabby!  That doesn't take away from any of the others, who aren't too shabby themselves.

I'm thinking they are setting Drew up as possible next "B".  The heartwarming story about his childhood and his sister.  ChisH has already mentioned what a wonderful HTD he had. I'm sure that Drew will have even more fans after tomorrow night.   It reminds me a lot of ChrisL....ChrisH said that his HTD was "the best" HTD they had ever done, the heartwarming story about his mother, that we got to hear about on every episode, a huge fan favorite, etc.  Not to mention that Drew is incredibly handsome.  Has any information come out on why Drew moved to California?

Chris H.'s description of Des and Drew's relationship, in his latest blog, is rather interesting. Apparently Chris H. can see what a few of us can also see .
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Post by moonchild Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:40 pm

2observe wrote:Hey all, I just want to let you know that Aunties_Love has lost her grandmother; and, eventho she maybe on the boards (it helps to keep her busy), our prayers are needed.  

So sorry to hear this. Thanks for letting us know.


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Post by albean99 Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:43 pm

moonchild wrote:
2observe wrote:Hey all, I just want to let you know that Aunties_Love has lost her grandmother; and, eventho she maybe on the boards (it helps to keep her busy), our prayers are needed.  

So sorry to hear this.  Thanks for letting us know.

That's so sad. Sending good thoughts & prayers her way. console 


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Post by Aunties_Love Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:45 pm

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Pattycake92 wrote:I haven't watched anything with hometowns, I'm going by what I've already seen. I don't have a dog in this hunt. I could really care less who she picks so its not what I want to see. It's brooks she wants and she blatantly said "I am in love with Brooks". I really don't know how she could be more obvious than that.
Yes, she did say that, but it was really early on as far as this process goes.  Most of the past leads don't say it till they have met the families of the final 4, therefore I am wondering if they are leaving that in so it coincides with the spoilers, yet in the end, she picks Drew or Chris??

sorry for this gentle reminder. but Ashley and Ali said the same bolded line about Bentley and Frank.:shocked!: ..its just a usual "formula" in this franchise :yes: 
but not about their F1/spoiled F1

yup...commonly the lead use the word "falling" for the F1/spoiled F1.
So, this leads me to believe that Brooks isn't her intended F1. I think she is in a turmoil because she thought she had 3 great guys left that she could count on with regards to carrying on their relationships, then the rug gets pulled out from under her. I am thinking that is where most of her angst comes from.


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Post by ImeldaMarcos Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:47 pm

AuntiesLove....so sorry. Heartfelt prayers.

Chris H is full of it, is a proven liar/shill for TPTB and the franchise. I am sure they pay him well for his troubles.

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Post by Guest Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:47 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
murasaki1393 wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
murasaki1393 wrote:
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Pattycake92 wrote:I haven't watched anything with hometowns, I'm going by what I've already seen. I don't have a dog in this hunt. I could really care less who she picks so its not what I want to see. It's brooks she wants and she blatantly said "I am in love with Brooks". I really don't know how she could be more obvious than that.
Yes, she did say that, but it was really early on as far as this process goes.  Most of the past leads don't say it till they have met the families of the final 4, therefore I am wondering if they are leaving that in so it coincides with the spoilers, yet in the end, she picks Drew or Chris??

sorry for this gentle reminder. but Ashley and Ali said the same bolded line about Bentley and Frank.:shocked!: ..its just a usual "formula" in this franchise :yes: 
but not about their F1/spoiled F1

yup...commonly the lead use the word "falling" for the F1/spoiled F1.
So, this leads me to believe that Brooks isn't her intended F1.  I think she is in a turmoil because she thought she had 3 great guys left that she could count on with regards to carrying on their relationships, then the rug gets pulled out from under her.  I am thinking that is where most of her angst comes from.

You'll have to wait and see, eh?

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Post by 2observe Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:49 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
murasaki1393 wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
murasaki1393 wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:I haven't watched anything with hometowns, I'm going by what I've already seen. I don't have a dog in this hunt. I could really care less who she picks so its not what I want to see. It's brooks she wants and she blatantly said "I am in love with Brooks". I really don't know how she could be more obvious than that.
Yes, she did say that, but it was really early on as far as this process goes.  Most of the past leads don't say it till they have met the families of the final 4, therefore I am wondering if they are leaving that in so it coincides with the spoilers, yet in the end, she picks Drew or Chris??

sorry for this gentle reminder. but Ashley and Ali said the same bolded line about Bentley and Frank.:shocked!: ..its just a usual "formula" in this franchise :yes: 
but not about their F1/spoiled F1

yup...commonly the lead use the word "falling" for the F1/spoiled F1.
So, this leads me to believe that Brooks isn't her intended F1.  I think she is in a turmoil because she thought she had 3 great guys left that she could count on with regards to carrying on their relationships, then the rug gets pulled out from under her.  I am thinking that is where most of her angst comes from.
That makes so much sense and ITA.
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