Re: The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Thread #3

[ImeldaMarcos]

Just wanted to post that this may be my favorite F3 ever.  Each guy, while different, is really, really special.  Truly believe Des would be lucky to wind up with any of the remaining men.

Still, at this point in the show, I would choose Chris or Drew for Des.  Chris and Drew have stated openly that they are falling for her and are there for her.  She’s said repeatedly that her MO is to love the guy more than he loves her, so this is a big issue for her (was for me too).  I believe both Chris and Drew - that they would love her without hesitation or reservation.  I think the video of her crying in the red dress will likely be very significant.  Probably willing to wager, whoever she’s crying about will be her F1.

Spoilers aside, at this point in the show, and in spite of what Des has declared, I think the worst choice for her would be Brooks.  Don’t misunderstand, I think Brooks is a great guy, and within the parameters of the show, also feel he is totally reasonable to want to proceed slowly to be sure of his feelings, etc… But for Des to throw herself into the relationship where there is such a disparity of feelings (and yes, I’ve done this too) in my experience, is a recipe for disaster.

Of course, the most important and seemingly dramatic stuff is yet to come… so we’ll just have to sit and wait for more information.    Can’t wait!!!!

Excellent points, every one.  


I don't think there's a " disparity" between Des and Brooks. He said jogging she said running . He's only a step or so behind. I think the real disparity is her feelings towards the other two. I think that gap is bigger. Should she settle then if that was the case?

Definitely not settle; that's also recipe for disaster.  My personal experience has been that true love only came when I was willing to open my heart and see the true beauty in someone I might have rejected for a number of 'logical' reasons earlier in my life.  So of course, this is my experience and POV... I personally see 'Brooks is just not that into her....'  So the story can proceed in one of a number of ways, including.  1. Brooks will step up to the plate, declare his love and they will live happily ever after 2. Brooks will not step up to the plate and she will recognize that Chris/Drew offers her what she really needs or 3. Brooks will not step up to the plate and she will walk away alone.  Again, spoilers aside, we'll just have to wait and see...

Or she could settle for Chris or Drew because they love HER and wake up 30 years down the road with regret that she did not wait for the one she loved the most who loved her right back. If Brooks is not all in...she should walk away alone. You can waste your youth with settling and live with regret or love yourself enough to never, ever settle.

I agree, settling is never good.  Sometimes (and it seems like plenty of time on this show, mostly I think, due to the condensed filming time period) it seems like the leads settle... only to have regrets about their choices later down the path.  But really, in the heat and pressure of the filming, I’m sure it can be very, very hard to make the best and clearest choices.  

A wise person once told me it's better to take a chance and learn a lesson about what's not good vs. never taking a chance (inaction - due to fear and/or indecision, etc.. ) and not knowing...  And really, it's our mistakes as much or more than our achievements that make us who we are.... so to me, in the end, as painful as some choices have initially seemed, they were huge life lessons that were ultimately for the good.

[agentcurls]

Drew sticking around after the FDs seems to be seen as a pesky situation that fans of the other 2 guys want to try to ignore or explain away. It may end up that he is the delayed f3 person or not. For all we know Drew was going to be in the f2 in any case. I don't see Des keeping 3 guys for the LCD/MTP on purpose. Who could possibly be that wishy washy to inflict that on the extra guy or her family?

I could be wrong (it's happened many times  ) but I can only make sense of things if Brooks leaves. I'm assuming he returns at some point and feel at least a couple of things point to that including moving the MTA up a week and letting Des say she's in love with him. My guess is that he comes back the day before the FRC and possible does meet Des' family. I don't feel he'll get a full LCD & MTP if he chooses to leave & come back. I know that's what fans want but they don't usually reward the returnees. In any case I don't see a clean F3 F2 & F1 without at least some trouble on the horizon. If the spoilers are right it all ends well for Brooks but right now it's a little hard to see how it's going to happen.

I'm leaning more towards Brooks' FD and Drew's LCD being cut a little short (still not sure what time of day) this season.

Upon Brooks' return, he will get a combined MTP/LCD, like Dead Ed ( Jillian's F1).

[albean99]

Drew sticking around after the FDs seems to be seen as a pesky situation that fans of the other 2 guys want to try to ignore or explain away. It may end up that he is the delayed f3 person or not. For all we know Drew was going to be in the f2 in any case. I don't see Des keeping 3 guys for the LCD/MTP on purpose. Who could possibly be that wishy washy to inflict that on the extra guy or her family?

I could be wrong (it's happened many times  ) but I can only make sense of things if Brooks leaves. I'm assuming he returns at some point and feel at least a couple of things point to that including moving the MTA up a week and letting Des say she's in love with him. My guess is that he comes back the day before the FRC and possible does meet Des' family. I don't feel he'll get a full LCD & MTP if he chooses to leave & come back. I know that's what fans want but they don't usually reward the returnees. In any case I don't see a clean F3 F2 & F1 without at least some trouble on the horizon. If the spoilers are right it all ends well for Brooks but right now it's a little hard to see how it's going to happen.

I'm leaning more towards Brooks' FD and Drew's LCD being cut a little short (still not sure what time of day) this season.

Upon Brooks' return, he will get a combined MTP/LCD, like Dead Ed ( Jillian's F1).

Ed's was a combined FD with Jill meeting his parents but know what you're trying to say. I'm getting a little weary of Brooks right now. If he leaves it annoys me that he's able to come back and jump over the other guys. I know it's all about the heart but I hope Des really is sure about him if he ends up as the f1.

[Guest]

Drew sticking around after the FDs seems to be seen as a pesky situation that fans of the other 2 guys want to try to ignore or explain away. It may end up that he is the delayed f3 person or not. For all we know Drew was going to be in the f2 in any case. I don't see Des keeping 3 guys for the LCD/MTP on purpose. Who could possibly be that wishy washy to inflict that on the extra guy or her family?

I could be wrong (it's happened many times  ) but I can only make sense of things if Brooks leaves. I'm assuming he returns at some point and feel at least a couple of things point to that including moving the MTA up a week and letting Des say she's in love with him. My guess is that he comes back the day before the FRC and possible does meet Des' family. I don't feel he'll get a full LCD & MTP if he chooses to leave & come back. I know that's what fans want but they don't usually reward the returnees. In any case I don't see a clean F3 F2 & F1 without at least some trouble on the horizon. If the spoilers are right it all ends well for Brooks but right now it's a little hard to see how it's going to happen.

I'm leaning more towards Brooks' FD and Drew's LCD being cut a little short (still not sure what time of day) this season.

Upon Brooks' return, he will get a combined MTP/LCD, like Dead Ed ( Jillian's F1).

Ed's was a combined FD with Jill meeting his parents but know what you're trying to say. I'm getting a little weary of Brooks right now. If he leaves it annoys me that he's able to come back and jump over the other guys. I know it's all about the heart but I hope Des really is sure about him if he ends up as the f1.

But would it be jumping over? Or just taking the place that's already in her heart? It annoys me that Drew and/or Chris takes BROOKS place when he decides to meltdown and get out of line. If he even does.

[Guest]

I watched that dramatic preview again and it's the first time I really looked at Drew when Des is holding him and looks like she's comforting him. She looks so sad. Anyway, it looks like he's crying. You can see the movement in his neck.

[albean99]

Drew sticking around after the FDs seems to be seen as a pesky situation that fans of the other 2 guys want to try to ignore or explain away. It may end up that he is the delayed f3 person or not. For all we know Drew was going to be in the f2 in any case. I don't see Des keeping 3 guys for the LCD/MTP on purpose. Who could possibly be that wishy washy to inflict that on the extra guy or her family?

I could be wrong (it's happened many times  ) but I can only make sense of things if Brooks leaves. I'm assuming he returns at some point and feel at least a couple of things point to that including moving the MTA up a week and letting Des say she's in love with him. My guess is that he comes back the day before the FRC and possible does meet Des' family. I don't feel he'll get a full LCD & MTP if he chooses to leave & come back. I know that's what fans want but they don't usually reward the returnees. In any case I don't see a clean F3 F2 & F1 without at least some trouble on the horizon. If the spoilers are right it all ends well for Brooks but right now it's a little hard to see how it's going to happen.

I'm leaning more towards Brooks' FD and Drew's LCD being cut a little short (still not sure what time of day) this season.

Upon Brooks' return, he will get a combined MTP/LCD, like Dead Ed ( Jillian's F1).

Ed's was a combined FD with Jill meeting his parents but know what you're trying to say. I'm getting a little weary of Brooks right now. If he leaves it annoys me that he's able to come back and jump over the other guys. I know it's all about the heart but I hope Des really is sure about him if he ends up as the f1.

But would it be jumping over? Or just taking the place that's already in her heart? It annoys me that Drew and/or Chris takes BROOKS place when he decides to meltdown and get out of line. If he even does.

It's not his place if he chooses to go. Des has no choice but to carry on with the show.

[nd4reality]

I'm still saying that Brooks was not expecting that knock on the door and was either being asked to meet Des (by someone) or the visitor was Des herself wanting to talk to him. In that case - he was not the one approaching her with his doubts etc. but rather she had the need to approach him.
I also feel that limo scene with his eyes red was put in with the usual purpose that any other limo scene is shown to us. No explanation for that one should be necessary.

These are things I see and which make the whole Brooks as F1 seem hard to confirm.

Hopefully in the absence of sufficient MTA scenes - they will show us that crucial (missing) scene that so many are confident occurs and will wrap this season up in my mind.

[Guest]

And at the end, Brooks is definitely crying. You can see him heaving. And he definitely looks sad. His eyes look wet, too. You can see he's sniffling because his nose moves. That's no dub over. That's some deep sobbing.

[Guest]

Drew sticking around after the FDs seems to be seen as a pesky situation that fans of the other 2 guys want to try to ignore or explain away. It may end up that he is the delayed f3 person or not. For all we know Drew was going to be in the f2 in any case. I don't see Des keeping 3 guys for the LCD/MTP on purpose. Who could possibly be that wishy washy to inflict that on the extra guy or her family?

I could be wrong (it's happened many times  ) but I can only make sense of things if Brooks leaves. I'm assuming he returns at some point and feel at least a couple of things point to that including moving the MTA up a week and letting Des say she's in love with him. My guess is that he comes back the day before the FRC and possible does meet Des' family. I don't feel he'll get a full LCD & MTP if he chooses to leave & come back. I know that's what fans want but they don't usually reward the returnees. In any case I don't see a clean F3 F2 & F1 without at least some trouble on the horizon. If the spoilers are right it all ends well for Brooks but right now it's a little hard to see how it's going to happen.

I'm leaning more towards Brooks' FD and Drew's LCD being cut a little short (still not sure what time of day) this season.

Upon Brooks' return, he will get a combined MTP/LCD, like Dead Ed ( Jillian's F1).

Ed's was a combined FD with Jill meeting his parents but know what you're trying to say. I'm getting a little weary of Brooks right now. If he leaves it annoys me that he's able to come back and jump over the other guys. I know it's all about the heart but I hope Des really is sure about him if he ends up as the f1.

But would it be jumping over? Or just taking the place that's already in her heart? It annoys me that Drew and/or Chris takes BROOKS place when he decides to meltdown and get out of line. If he even does.

It's not his place if he chooses to go. Des has no choice but to carry on with the show.

But if he's in her heart then he's still in her heart. That's the place I'm talking about.

[Pattycake92]

I try to accept whomever the lead chooses because it's their life. They have to live with it. The only time I really couldn't watch a finale was with Ben and Courtney. I thought she was vile but he still made the right decision because that's his life. So 99% of the time, I'm happy for the final couple even when it's not my pick. I think Des is really lucky to have these 3 choices. It's like winning the damn lottery three times in a row. She really can't go wrong IMO.

[agentcurls]

I try to accept whomever the lead chooses because it's their life. They have to live with it. The only time I really couldn't watch a finale was with Ben and Courtney. I thought she was vile but he still made the right decision because that's his life. So 99% of the time, I'm happy for the final couple even when it's not my pick. I think Des is really lucky to have these 3 choices. It's like winning the damn lottery three times in a row. She really can't go wrong IMO.

 AGREED!

I think all F4 are complete gems. They are all winners for this viewing audience.

[nd4reality]

So everyone agrees that at some point Brooks 'goes' right ?

And to fit the spoilers he 'returns' ?

Just clarifying.

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