Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

^^ hopefully.
Guys- what Ellen announcement? Am in rhe dark here. Is it another one on Rachel but is Nick on Ellen.

The times I have been invested with F1 and the lead's love story it has been easy breezy. Nessa's edit so far is giving me anxiety.

I should be feeling this  right before hometowns and not this

Also I don't want to watch the episode again for obvious reasons but did they even show Vanessa say anything after Nick told her I really like you and his reasoning behind it? Or did they just end it there?

IMO you don't keep a framed picture of the man who broke your heart on national tv. So if it's actually true it proves she's F1 and they are still together.

Cila51290 wrote:The times I have been invested with F1 and the lead's love story it has been easy breezy. Nessa's edit so far is giving me anxiety.

I should be feeling this  right before hometowns and not this

Also I don't want to watch the episode again for obvious reasons but did they even show Vanessa say anything after Nick told her I really like you and his reasoning behind it? Or did they just end it there?

I watched it again.  Nope - just showed that she was in her head and have not heard anything else he said. Then chop - Nick was standing up to leave.

I guess what she doesn't know is that in these last 2 episodes when someone said that "falling in love" - Nick put them on the chopping block. So she was better off than anyone else. I think you will be feeling different if you saw their heavy make out session on the yacht. Yah know those far away shots we saw in previews where she was laying on top of Nick while they were talking...

I see others brought this up but curious why Vanessa was never in any scenes with the other girls at house. I was unspoiled last night and thought this meant 1) she is keeping to herself/not getting along, which is generally blown out of proportion and cause for drama. And 2) the fact tptb not showing meant she is probably not f1 but 1st in line for Bachelorette.

Clearly I am wrong on #2 so makes me wonder...why not scenes with other girls? Is there some kind of feud going??

MVMom39forever wrote:I see others brought this up but curious why Vanessa was never in any scenes with the other girls at house. I was unspoiled last night and thought this meant 1) she is keeping to herself/not getting along, which is generally blown out of proportion and cause for drama. And 2) the fact tptb not showing meant she is probably not f1 but 1st in line for Bachelorette.

Clearly I am wrong on #2 so makes me wonder...why not scenes with other girls? Is there some kind of feud going??

Kristina is puzzled as well.

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@MVMom39forever I think she had a melt down the night before over Danielle leaving according to previews we NEVER got to see in real time. I'm beginning to think TPTB had their hands full keeping her from totally bailing. I did see a quick shot of her the next day in the room with the girls later after Kristina left, I think.

mprssdbyu wrote:@MVMom39forever I think she had a melt down the night before over Danielle leaving according to previews we NEVER got to see in real time. I'm beginning to think TPTB had their hands full keeping her from totally bailing.I did see a quick shot of her the next day in the room with the girls later after Kristina left, I think.

hmm..never thought about that!

MVMom39forever wrote:I see others brought this up but curious why Vanessa was never in any scenes with the other girls at house. I was unspoiled last night and thought this meant 1) she is keeping to herself/not getting along, which is generally blown out of proportion and cause for drama. And 2) the fact tptb not showing meant she is probably not f1 but 1st in line for Bachelorette.

Clearly I am wrong on #2 so makes me wonder...why not scenes with other girls? Is there some kind of feud going??

According to RS, she had a fight with Rachel, that had been building for a while, and most of the girls took Rachel's side. I think there was a scene in the promo with Rachel saying "that's so fake!" and she doesn't follow Vanessa, so it seems to be true. IMO.

Did you see in another thread that Corinne was supposedly taking questions last night through someone else? One question was about Vanessa and Rachel's relationship. Supposedly Corinne answered 'maybe' Vanessa said something unkind about Rachel behind her back and it got back to Rachel. Wonder how much truth is in that? eta: I'll go and see if I can find where that was posted.

^^^^thanks! It was clear that she and Danielle were close, and from what I see Ravens and Rachel are close. The fact that Corinne called Vanessa a botch...not cool.

Vanessa looks to be having a challenging time. She is so gorgeous. I had picked her as f1 from 1st night so glad that she is. Just wish that we would see more.

Eta...unfortunate that she and Rachel had fight. I can believe it. Watching unspoiled, it was clear to my daughter and I that it was a race between Rachel and Vanessa with no one else close. Vanessa seems a bit more invested in Nick and dare I say tempermental than Rachel so I can see her having hard time playing nice with Rachel, who seems to be house sweetheart.

It could be something as simple as she had a meltdown and did a good portion of ITMS with production during this time.
Whatever it was, production did not want her aired for the storyline.
My gut feeling is IF there was this huge fight, with all the people involved in it's presence we would have heard about it from multiple, multiple leaks. The fact that we are not and basically it's coming from one, IMO, dubious source, tells me it was not that big of a deal. JMOAA
We aren't hearing about this huge feud between Corinne and Vanessa(because there isn't one!) and we got footage of Corinne calling her a bitch last night.
So my feeling is if something did happen, it was not a big deal. JMO