Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

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ReneeM wrote:Considering no one knows what caused or went down during the alleged fight, I personally don't know if it says anything negative about the other girls. Maybe Vanessa is just taking the fake high road, maybe she's  concerned about how she'll come across she's trying to patch things up to mitigate w/e damage is caused to her image, Maybe the other girls aren't even holding grudges but are simply uninterested in her life and her IG updates. Just some other options. Not assuming anything either way, but I'm not going to sanctify her just because she's the (alleged) F1 and I like her IG.

If someone is following me, and I don't care for them, and I'm not following them back, IMO that means I don't care for them.

They were all on the show at the same time. Most of them are not looking for a long term relationship IMO. It's an experience, be happy for the F1 and move on if you had problems with anyone. IMO it's only common courtesy to follow any of them back since you all lived together for weeks.

Whether its Vanessa that's not being followed back by someone or Corrine, whom I don't care for, I would say the same thing. So whether Vanessa is the F1 or not, to me it's a matter of common courtesy considering the circumstances.

We've seen F1 and F2's being jerks in the past, I just don't care for that type of behaviour post filming between the contestants.

@Dessler & @ReneeM IA re. the whole Vanessa & Rachel/Danielle IG following thing. I've also noticed plenty of one-way follows with previous contestants - IMO if you would rather not have someone pop up on your feed for whatever reason, it's logical to not follow them in the first place.  At any rate, I'm personally entertained by all this drama and look forward to seeing it all unfold ... I'm actually glad that we seem to have a "controversial" alleged F1

Vanessa was on the losing team on a group date who was supposed to be sent back to hotel but because they cried and because she's his fav，nick had them stay as well.

That's funny because when RS first mentioned the spoiler about Nick keeping the losing team on a group date, someone speculated that it might be like Sean's season, where Catherine was on the losing team and he decided to keep all the women.

Regarding Vanessa and the comment about Danielle L., didn't RS himself suggest at one point that Danielle was going to be the "not here for the right reasons" contestant? And I'm pretty sure some posters noted comments on her Instagram suggesting she broke up with a boyfriend right before going on the show. So that could be where the fake comment came from.

And it's interesting that Nick, after picking Danielle on a 2 on 1, eliminates her the same night, after she tells him she's in love with him. On the one hand, it can be seen as he didn't want to continue to lead her on if she was that far in, while he didn't feel the same or it could be because he didn't believe her and it made him more wary of her.

About Vanessa being rumored to be a little bit villainous:

IMO if a range of emotions or multidimension is not shown by the edit then it is unlikely the lead saw a fulsome range of a particular person's personality.
Using Carly on BIP as an example, she is snarky and her sarcasm sometimes devolves into mean but she is also fun, caring, stubborn, and showed herself to risk being vulnerable.  She gave Evan, as much as time allowed, a fairly clear picture of who she is - basically an authentic and realistically flawed individual.  That's who he proposed to.
I think this fits into "be yourself" and IMO it is really important because the lead doesn't want to chose someone only to discover a stranger once filming ends.  If, at times, Vanessa didn't do the popular thing or didn't always put her best foot forward/self-edit just because she was being filmed, then I see that being closer to authentic.
Or maybe I just hang out with flawed people so I think that's normal...and am trying to defend my own blah bits  

Wow, Nick is not good at hiding his emotions. He was just gazing at her. It reminded me of the way Ben would look at Lauren towards the end of his season.

Its obvious this journey took its toll on Vanessa. I'm not sure how Vanessa got past Nick's choices during RC. With Corrine and Rachel being part of F4, Nick stayed true to the attraction he felt towards each girl, IMO. It's going to be an interesting ride.  Vanessa may not come out of this smelling like a rose when all is said and done but that's okay with me. If she saw this journey through because she returned the same AMT of love towards Nick that he spoke of with tears in his eyes during previews, I don't care how she got there or about any relationship that existed with the girls. I thought Danielle M was lovely, but I can easily see why the flame never burned brightly. All I know is, Vanessa better hold his heart in her hands very carefully! I might just have to engage in twitter again, if not!! KIDDING! In all seriousness, I really liked her instagram. I hope she is that person when not among a house full of women fighting her for her guy!

I love how happy she is!


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Vanessa's Instagram following has really increased. She had about 7k yesterday and now she has 20k the morning after the premiere. I looked at some other contestant accountants and I don't think any of the other girls gained that many followers.

Wow! Talk about undeniable chemistry and sparks between Vanessa and Nick!! It was so obvious to me these two were already smitten with each other. I can't wait to watch their date and journey together

Hopefully we get to see the love story this season.

Nick just had these looks just for Vanessa and it's only night one!