Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3
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Re: Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3
@notarose And I can't say I've ever liked a male contestant more!!! All you have to do is listen to Nick's interviews and if you don't like that guy, your cup of tea obviously tastes a h3ll of a lot different than mine.
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Re: Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3
mprssdbyu wrote:@notarose And I can't say I've ever liked a male contestant more!!! All you have to do is listen to Nick's interviews and if you don't like that guy, your cup of tea obviously tastes a h3ll of a lot different than mine.
He's my kind of man a fighter AND a lover.
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Re: Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3
Exactly.notarose wrote:Curious as to how someone rejected in week 7 has come to play such a large role. He found her sexy. They danced on stage twice. They had some conversations. He didn't want to give her any more roses so he ended it.
Personally I like things about each of the girls that went to St. Thomas, and I'll add Alexis who didn't to my list as well, but this show is about Nick finding out if there is a woman who he can find mutual love with so for me I expect 29 women to exit because otherwise he will be alone again.
We know as fact, Nick chose to keep 6 women he wanted in order to get to know them better for another week. 4 of those women he preferred enough to want to meet their families. It's possible that he even fell in love with one of those women. That woman could be Vanessa. We are vicariously following, as Nick referred to it in an interview, the "documentary" of his experience.
Nick, the guy almost none of his fellow cast liked on A's season. Nick, who was the center of arguments with some guy the night Eric was let go, with Cody on a GD, with Josh-Chris-Brian-Marcus before hometown dates. Gee, there's probably more but you get my drift. Nick, who blasted Josh in the infamous leaked plane vid. Moving along to the next season: Nick who had words in K's season with a different Josh, 2 tense convos with Shawn, and Nick who even told K during his FS that Shawn was a guy with a history of ...now what exactly was the term for 2 guys sharing a girl?
Using Nick himself as a measure for comparison, I find it a challenge to come up with a known indiscretion on Vanessa's part toward any of her fellow cast that could rival what Nick is known to have actually done in the past. No one can catch up to Nick
JMO
OH, and to be clear, I've always been in Nick's corner because single acts do not override the totality of a man or woman. We all have things we done that we are capable of owning.
Imo liking one comment does not express dislike of Danielle or mean V agreed with the whole comment. I think about it like if I were in her shoes & kept reading all these negative & untrue comments on my ig that i cd not directly reply to myself, plus knowing that my fiancee also cannot defend me publicly at this time, plus knowing that rs has started the rumour of me being some sort of villain. In that scenario I wd be appreciative of people defending me more than thinking about whether the poster was calling Danielle boring ( which he wasn't). Such a storm in a teacup imo.
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Re: Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3
@notarose
I personally don't subscribe to the view that Nick's previous behavior gives permission for any kind of the women's behavior - Nick has owned up to mistakes and has admitted he had no ill will. I see no reason why that is being kept brought back up as if to suggest that Nick wants a woman who also does the same as things he's learned were mistakes. imo Also - if there's one thing Nick isn't it's PETTY which V's like of that post suggest she was being.
I personally don't subscribe to the view that Nick's previous behavior gives permission for any kind of the women's behavior - Nick has owned up to mistakes and has admitted he had no ill will. I see no reason why that is being kept brought back up as if to suggest that Nick wants a woman who also does the same as things he's learned were mistakes. imo Also - if there's one thing Nick isn't it's PETTY which V's like of that post suggest she was being.
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Re: Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3
notarose
I go to sleep and this happens? About some "like" ...
How many times did Nick like a "questionable" tweet, with 2 part opinions, where someone was criticized/bashed, while making fun of Nick ... and it was perceived as him liking only the part of the comment about him and not trying to contribute to the negativity of the second part of the same tweet ... but he is still "liked". So I don't see the need to "criticize" Vanessa for liking that pacozero post ... since it isn't even about another contestant, but about certain people who point finger at her, without knowing all the facts ... and I don't see anything wrong with her pointing the finger back. Reality check anyone?
I go to sleep and this happens? About some "like" ...
How many times did Nick like a "questionable" tweet, with 2 part opinions, where someone was criticized/bashed, while making fun of Nick ... and it was perceived as him liking only the part of the comment about him and not trying to contribute to the negativity of the second part of the same tweet ... but he is still "liked". So I don't see the need to "criticize" Vanessa for liking that pacozero post ... since it isn't even about another contestant, but about certain people who point finger at her, without knowing all the facts ... and I don't see anything wrong with her pointing the finger back. Reality check anyone?
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I don't think NR suggested that. But when the actions are done by Nick and they are approved/understood and accepted ... then similar actions are done by the woman - Vanessa - and they are not. So, can I state that it feels the rules change according to who is the subject and whether they are liked or not more?emusha wrote:@notarose
I personally don't subscribe to the view that Nick's previous behavior gives permission for any kind of the women's behavior - Nick has owned up to mistakes and has admitted he had no ill will. I see no reason why that is being kept brought back up as if to suggest that Nick wants a woman who also does the same as things he's learned were mistakes. imo
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^^post script.
A teaccup I jumped straight into. Thinking I wd js read what all the fuss was about on ig and what was said by all. Seem to hv picked up a sword in Vanessa's defence.
I hate this stage of the show where everyone has taken sides and then sm turns really ugly, meanwhile the cast can say nothing. Bring on monday night.
Also want to thank the mods on here who do an amazing job of keeping this a troll free zone. It cannot be easy at times. thankyou guys.
A teaccup I jumped straight into. Thinking I wd js read what all the fuss was about on ig and what was said by all. Seem to hv picked up a sword in Vanessa's defence.
I hate this stage of the show where everyone has taken sides and then sm turns really ugly, meanwhile the cast can say nothing. Bring on monday night.
Also want to thank the mods on here who do an amazing job of keeping this a troll free zone. It cannot be easy at times. thankyou guys.
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I keep repeating that Nick isn't perfect and I still like him and watch him "grow" ... so I don't expect from Vanessa to be perfect and there's always a room for growth ...
the same can be said about anyone on that show ... since "perfect" isn't real, IMO, it's just a tale.
the same can be said about anyone on that show ... since "perfect" isn't real, IMO, it's just a tale.
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liked by whom? And when was Nick petty enough to like a disrespectful post to another guy/contestant?happygolucky wrote:I don't think NR suggested that. But when the actions are done by Nick and they are approved/understood and accepted ... then similar actions are done by the woman - Vanessa - and they are not. So, can I state that it feels the rules change according to who is the subject and whether they are liked or not more?emusha wrote:@notarose
I personally don't subscribe to the view that Nick's previous behavior gives permission for any kind of the women's behavior - Nick has owned up to mistakes and has admitted he had no ill will. I see no reason why that is being kept brought back up as if to suggest that Nick wants a woman who also does the same as things he's learned were mistakes. imo
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Why is it that everything regarding what Vanessa does now in days turns petty. It's like people want to find something negative about her so bad just to say "I told you so! Her edit is far from a villain. Aside from RS spoilers, imo there's nothing she has done to garner such hate. Oh right, she's the F1. Ding ding ding. Hang on tight Vanessa! I'm glad Nick the king of getting hate will be by her side. They can be the most hated couple and I'll still love them. Jmo
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I myself like earl Grey in polka-dotted cups (wait wrong season). Are we seriously devoting 5 pages of discussion over an IG like? My tablet is too sensitive that I tend to like IGs inadvertently as I swipe up. Not saying there was no intent over the like by Vanessa, as there is a deliberate action by Danielle. Anyway, both are culpable for their actions whether deliberate or not. So both will have to face ramifications of their actions, including the debate right here. But can we all agree that both actions have nothing to do with when they left the show nor anything to do with Nick? Look, I like Vanessa but I don't love her (I find her enthusiasm too much sometimes, but I consider myself old, so), anyway, I like Danielle but can't stand her vocal fry and giggle. Neither of these women are perfect and I agree that singular actions do not define the person. Both of them, however, are allowed to like any post they want and feel and express hurt without any negativity. But oh well we also don't live in a perfect world, obviously neither have learned to effectively manage social media.
Need to do something productive and stop hanging out in this forum (after Nick's season)
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Cila51290 wrote:Why is it that everything regarding what Vanessa does now in days turns petty. It's like people want to find something negative about her so bad just to say "I told you so! Her edit is far from a villain. Aside from RS spoilers, imo there's nothing she has done to garner such hate. Oh right, she's the F1. Ding ding ding. Hang on tight Vanessa! I'm glad Nick the king of getting hate will be by her side. They can be the most hated couple and I'll still love them. Jmo
I think people just love to find anything they can to criticise people sometimes. For all types of self serving & perhaps bully type reasons the trolls come out. It does happen every season in some form. I especially cannot stand it when a troll has a tiny piece of what they think is insider info and they present it as a fact.
I hope and expect V is getting advice over handling the onslaught of sm attention she will get more & more of. Also as many of you pointed out- Nick is the best person placed to also advise her on handling sm after his experiences.
It can't be easy holding down a very demanding & important teaching job while all this Bachelor stuff is also going on, plus maintaining a relationship & shv's (we hope). I so admire her getting on with her job and life right away. All imo.
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