Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - F1-F3 - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Sorry for the double post. I wouldn't say never, he has talked about Raven several times as has CH in his five to watch.

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I was optimistic about turning the date around, and so I walked into the evening excited to spend time with all the women. I was still feeling a little anxious about the day, but it was Raven who put me at ease. Raven is always like a breath of fresh air. She has this presence about her that immediately calms me while still feeling excited. I felt like we had made huge strides in our relationship back in Wisconsin, and this was an evening that made me confident that we were only getting stronger.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] To your point, Nick's also liked a couple of Rachel's IG pics that are unrelated to him, so I think even if he's selling her as 'ette, he's also being genuine in what he thinks of her. Nothing's wrong with her so much as she just wasn't 'the one' for him. JMO.

GuardianAngel wrote:Sorry for the double post. I wouldn't say never, he has talked about Raven several times as has CH in his five to watch.

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I was optimistic about turning the date around, and so I walked into the evening excited to spend time with all the women. I was still feeling a little anxious about the day, but it was Raven who put me at ease. Raven is always like a breath of fresh air. She has this presence about her that immediately calms me while still feeling excited. I felt like we had made huge strides in our relationship back in Wisconsin, and this was an evening that made me confident that we were only getting stronger.

Oh, I know I've seen the blogs and the 5 to watch about Raven. What I did mean is during post filming interviews. I don't recall Nick talking about Raven. If anyone does have any interviews he has spoken about Raven, I'd love to see to compare.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Sorry, my mistake.

happygolucky wrote:I'm not even sure Nick is selling Rachel as next Bette. I think he truly feels like she deserves all those praises, IMO, because she was his "second best" and it's not her fault for not being "the one". That's why I see her as real F2, instead of Raven. Because I don't see the affinity with Raven as he has with Rachel (similar minds).

I didn't mean "selling" in a bad way. It's more like since she wasn't his choice he feels like she's his best choice for the ette role and wants her to find love.

ReneeM wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] To your point, Nick's also liked a couple of Rachel's IG pics that are unrelated to him, so I think even if he's selling her as 'ette, he's also being genuine in what he thinks of her. Nothing's wrong with her so much as she just wasn't 'the one' for him. JMO.

Speaking of which I'm very curious to hear how Nick is going to rationalize his final decision particularly given the BS answers most leads give "couldn't imagine my life without him/her" etc.

That is my curiosity too. And most dreadful question ... I'm already cringing ... and thinking "Nick get yourself a nice azz padded pants".

I don't know, I haven't seen anything that will make Nick justifying his final decision so difficult. Am I missing something? Unlike Ben, he hasn't told anyone he's in love with them (yet, maybe that's to come) and I haven't seen him telling anyone he couldn't imagine his life without them.

it's not a decision that's difficult, but the wording ... explaining and ... not sounding like his previous leads ... that's why I say, I hope his own words (to them) won't bite him in the a**

Curious rationalize to whom? The public, to his F2, or to his F1? My take is he can BS everybody else but he needs to be truthful to his F1. (I seriously think his yellow bracelet is going to help him a lot. And if it is what we think it is, and Nick is the same guy in Andi's season - he'll do right by her).

Well, in all fairness, all he has to do is abstain from any "compromising" declarations or actions ... and he'll be fine. So far he's done it just fine ... keeping it real.

Cila51290 wrote:
Oh, I know I've seen the blogs and the 5 to watch about Raven. What I did mean is during post filming interviews. I don't recall Nick talking about Raven. If anyone does have any interviews he has spoken about Raven, I'd love to see to compare.

I had not noticed this before but now that I think about it, I can't recollect him talking about Raven in any interviews either. Good observation [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]!  

Here are his captions for the IG pics he posted after every 1-1 (except DLo):

Kristina: Cruising with this cutie
Rachel: All smiles all the time
Raven: Truthfully, we spent most of our date just eating the orange slices
Vanessa: Now that was a great date!
Danielle M: Great times with beautiful Danielle!

One of those captions is not like the others IMO. Very impersonal. JMO.