NO SPOILERS - JORDAN - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - NO Spoilers*

I pulled the excerpts from JoJo's People Blogs that state what she wants and what she says about each guy. I thought it might help to see it all together and how/if it changes as the season goes on. I'll update/edit them for each episode. 

Ep 1
"When Jordan stepped out I felt an immediate attraction; not only was he good looking, but it felt so natural talking to him. I mean talk about off to a good start! If the rest of these guys were anything like him I knew I would be in for a phenomenal journey. "

"But, I couldn't help but think of when Jordan stepped out of the limo, I knew there was a connection between us. It wasn't until we kissed (my REAL first kiss of the evening) that I knew he had made a lasting impression. So, I decided to give him my first impression rose. And hey, let me put something else to rest right now. A couple people have asked me if I spoke to Jordan prior to that first night, and I can honestly tell you that at no time did we ever speak to each other. The first time we spoke was when he stepped out of that limo and said hello! Sure, his name had been leaked online and I knew a guy named Jordan Rodgers was likely arriving, but we never ever spoke."

Ep 3
"Going into the after party, I just tried to focus on each individual relationship. Talking to Jordan was sensitive and sweet, and it helped me remember why I gave him the First Impression Rose that first night."

Ep 4
"Jordan on the other hand, was someone I did have questions about. There was no denying the attraction between us, but something about Jordan scared me. I would often find myself getting nervous around him. I couldn't decipher if it was nervous butterflies or something else. But having him open up to me and to see him begin to drop his walls was exactly what I needed in that moment. It felt like a turning point for us, and I knew I wanted to show him that I saw that by giving him the group date rose."

Ep 5
"Maybe that's why I loved that kiss from Jordan so much. I knew no one else could see us, even if they were close by. It was pretty darn hot."

"I was really looking forward to seeing Jordan. He and I had an instant connection that first night when he stepped out of the limo, but I was so ready to try and move beyond that. And I know the water was a little murky, but just seeing those seals swim around so close to us was amazing."

"That night, I knew I needed to have a serious talk with Jordan. It was hard bringing those issues up with him, but I knew I wouldn't be able to move forward without having that conversation. I could tell he was surprised, and there was a moment there when I was worried that he was about to shut down. But he didn't. Hearing him open up and tell me that he was immature and maybe not the best person in past relationships meant a lot. He didn't try to place blame on anyone other than himself. I respected that. And it made me realize that the connection between us was more than just physical." 

"What was one of the best days in this entire journey quickly became one of the worst. Seeing that my ex-boyfriend..."

Ep 6
"During my one-on-one time with James, he brought up some issues with Jordan. Looking back, I wonder if that was guided solely by fact or was this possibly his insecurities acting out? Either way, I needed to address the situation with Jordan." 

"This wasn't the first tough conversation I'd had with Jordan. My feelings for Jordan were really starting to grow, however I had my reservations. After talking through the scenario (which by the way was about a silly poker game ... men!), Jordan reassured me of his intentions yet again, and how the scenario played out. I felt a little bad spending so much of my time with Jordan talking about these things, but I also knew what I needed to do in order to understand the entirety of the situation and make the right decisions moving forward."

Ep 1 Blog
Ep 2 Blog
Ep 3 Blog
Ep 4 Blog
Ep 5 Blog
Ep 6 Blog

^^^ thanks for this. I have to say though that some mentions included here  were not about Jordan at all ?


ETA where is her Insistance on not talking to him before ? This smacks of Kaitlyn and Nick last season and heaven knows how much that discussion took up most of our time  those got super heated iirc.
I'm confused. 


At one point she blogs that the ep4 date was a turning point for them , yet she is still questioning and prodding in upcoming previews.
So her blogs are not factual.

nd4reality wrote:^^^ thanks for this. I have to say though that some mentions included here  were not about Jordan at all ?

Thanks, I removed them.... I was taking into consideration the fact that she writes the blogs after her journey is done and who the final 4 are.  

I did an ETA to my post 

I don't think the frankenbites(FBs)/VOs/ITMs/PIs for Jordan's intro package have been analyzed yet. Some FBs are not as obvious as others (lucky for me it rained through his outdoor film) but I tried hard and I think it's pretty accurate. It's interesting as to why they FB in certain spots to tell "his" story. 

VO: [I'm Jordan. I'm 27.][Sports was everything to me growing up.]
ITM: [One of my first memories is going out to the front yard and playing catch with my dad and my brothers and that's when I knew I wanted to play in the NFL.]
VO: [But it wasn't an easy path.]
ITM: [You know I was the little brother]
VO: [of Aaron Rodgers][who went on to become][the quarterback of the Green Bay Packers][so there's an expectation]
ITM: [because of who my brother was.]
VO: [It was rough at the start, I]
ITM: [was undersized in high school, I didn't get recruited]
VO: [but I kept at it, trained really hard and ultimately I ended up playing for 3 different NFL teams. That's something I'm proud of, you know, just to get to that level but]
ITM: [it did play a toll on, you know, what was an important relationship to me at the time.] Low thunder roll here—I'm not kidding!
VO: [I was in love][but I was so focused on football that I didn't make time for anything else.] [When that relationship ended, it hurt really bad because it was my fault] 
PI: [that the one woman I was in love with wasn't in love with me anymore.]
VO: [Now I'm in a place where I'm ready to make love a priority. I wanna share my life with somebody. I want a wife. I want a family. I want a best friend.]
PI: [I'm really happy JoJo's the Bachelorette.]
VO: [She's obviously beautiful, she seems to have a great personality. Good sense of humour, so]
PI: [I'm hoping I'm going to be JoJo's #1 draft pick.]

Rhondam, We now have 3 different times that Jordan's past relationship has been brought up. 1) in the intro, saying he wasn't focused on the relationship 2) on the first GD (?) at the espn studio, where he said during his SQT basically the same thing, 3) in Uruguay on Monday we are going to hear for the third time about this failed relationship. Only this time, they are going to throw in a clip of Jo asking him if he ever cheated on the ex-gf!  

Now, I've got to ask myself: What purpose does it serve (to tptb) to repeatedly play up the fact that Jordan was not able to focus on his relationship in the past? Why high light on 3 separate occasions the fact that he was a crappy boyfriend in the past? 3 times? Really?

Theory #1:  Is it because tptb really did not like Jordan, and they are using their powers of editing to enact revenge? They do this sometimes. They edit somebody in a bad light if they were difficult to work with or if they did something unfavorable to the show in post-production.

Theory #2:  Is it because they are building up the story arc of Jordan's relationship redemption (like others here have suggested)?  Jordan was a bad boy/selfish man in the past but with the love of a good woman...he's a changed man, ready to commit.

Theory #3:  Jordan was the front runner on night 1 with instant chemistry, but as Jo got to know him better as a person, what makes him tick, what priorities he lives in his life (not talks about, but actually lives), she is less attracted to him. She likes what she hears from other men more.

Which Theory above would NEED to have us REPEATEDLY hear that Jordan was a crappy boyfriend to his ex?
I'm trying to figure out what the heck tptb are thinking! If they were thinking of casting Jordan as the next lead, would this be a good strategy to use? Or a bad one? I'm nonplussed!  

^thank you, @rhondam, for typing that out! The thunder clap is too funny. I wonder if TPTB inserted that in there for dramatic effect?

It's hard to determine if tptb are having him tell "his story" so it comes full circle if he is JoJo's F1, or if it's to build a case for Jordan as next lead. 

*snipped*
PI: [that the one woman I was in love with wasn't in love with me anymore.]
This line builds empathy for him in particular. Again, the redemption angle of learning from his past mistakes? Or does he get to turn it around as the Bachelor?

MiaHawk wrote:Rhondam, We now have 3 different times that Jordan's past relationship has been brought up. 1) in the intro, saying he wasn't focused on the relationship 2) on the first GD (?) at the espn studio, where he said during his SQT basically the same thing, 3) in Uruguay on Monday we are going to hear for the third time about this failed relationship. Only this time, they are going to throw in a clip of Jo asking him if he ever cheated on the ex-gf!  

Now, I've got to ask myself: What purpose does it serve (to tptb) to repeatedly play up the fact that Jordan was not able to focus on his relationship in the past? Why high light on 3 separate occasions the fact that he was a crappy boyfriend in the past? 3 times? Really?

Theory #1:  Is it because tptb really did not like Jordan, and they are using their powers of editing to enact revenge? They do this sometimes. They edit somebody in a bad light if they were difficult to work with or if they did something unfavorable to the show in post-production.

Theory #2:  Is it because they are building up the story arc of Jordan's relationship redemption (like others here have suggested)?  Jordan was a bad boy/selfish man in the past but with the love of a good woman...he's a changed man, ready to commit.

Theory #3:  Jordan was the front runner on night 1 with instant chemistry, but as Jo got to know him better as a person, what makes him tick, what priorities he lives in his life (not talks about, but actually lives), she is less attracted to him. She likes what she hears from other men more.

Which Theory above would NEED to have us REPEATEDLY hear that Jordan was a crappy boyfriend to his ex?
I'm trying to figure out what the heck tptb are thinking! If they were thinking of casting Jordan as the next lead, would this be a good strategy to use? Or a bad one? I'm nonplussed!  

It could be any of those^

If there is a storm brewing post-show, I can see tptb editing Jordan (& JoJo "There's something about a bad boy I've always been drawn to") as a cautionary tale.

I'm not sure this is a great way to bolster a next lead. But people really do like a redemption story. 

Re: Theory #1 - maybe he pulled a Brooks (?) Although, with his "falling in love" declaration in BA, this doesn't seem like it will happen.

I think of all the men, Jordan's edit is the most confusing to me. There are times when I find him likable and other times that I really do not care for him at all. I really don't think he is getting a F1 edit. (But I've been wrong many times before about what is a good "F1 edit"!)

As for the redemption arc, I think this concept is better suited for him to be the next lead to get his redemption. I personally like Jojo, and I think she is doing a decent job as the lead. I think she has several really good guys to choose from that appear to be more into her than Jordan does. I think this process is too fast-paced for Jordan to actually develop feelings. He will say he is in love, but I am very skeptical about how deeply he really feels about her. I think the storyline will be: Ex crappy boyfriend who is now truly ready for love was too cautious with Jojo, and he gets another chance to find love as the lead.

I don't think Jordan will pull a Brooks, instead I think Jo will eliminate him at F4 or F3. I will be really curious to see what 'goes wrong' for Luke up to and thru HTDs. So far, Luke has been protected by the edit---no bad points about him that I can remember. I'd say that Luke's edit smells more like a F1 or F2. Either the strong silent cowboy who wins her heart, or the sweet, sensitive cowboy who leaves broken-hearted at F2. I'd say that if Jordan left at F2, he would not get as much sympathy as Luke would. Of course, I'm still pulling for Robby to be F1, so I'm biased.

I think the reason why JoJo has questioned Jordan so many times, and the reason why the edit has brought in the ex-gf and cheating so far on three occasions, is because, well, it's a real issue that won't go away. Normally you see a major issue arise and you see how they overcome it etc. but I just find that this doubt came in way too soon in the edit. In the second episode I believe we find JoJo questioning her feelings for Jordan. Not knowing whether her nervousness is a good thing or a bad thing. And even Jordan picked up on that. That to me is very telling. If you intuition is unsure as to why you feel so nervous and it's clearly not just nervousness due to feeling giddy, that's a red flag right there. Also, in the other guys' edit, particularly Chase and Luke, we hear them talk about marriage and wanting to settle down. One could argue that Jordan would express the same desire for marriage too and we'd have to wait on his one on one, but, I don't think so...not yet anyways. We see later on when JoJo and Jordan are both in black leather jackets, she was telling him emphatically that she wants to get engaged. Granted that we don't know the context, but could it be that Jordan seemed hesitant to go that route? I really don't think Jordan is ready for marriage. He seems the most immature to me of the F4, IMO. There is a reason why we are getting the storyline of the bad boy vs. the Ben-like guy. Good vs. evil. She is obviously conflicted with her default go-to bad boy and the nice, normal guy who would make her feel safe and protected.

With this kind of edit, I don't see how he can become the Bachelor. Unless it's like another Brad Womack who was unpopular when he chose no one but was "reformed" on the new episode with his psychologist etc. But given how invested it seems JoJo is with Jordan, I don't see him going anywhere...at least until after the FD. Because let's face it, she's a physical girl as she said so she'd naturally want to get to know Jordan better in that intimate setting.  So my thing is, the only way Jordan is going away is if he admitted to cheating and JoJo is not willing to invest to change him. But, as JoJo said in episode 2, "he's learned from his past" so I guess it's water under the bridge. I think this season it's Jordan's to lose.

If I take the fragments at face value, I think this edit might be to:
 
1) set up Jordan as the "loser" compared to his brother, which begins with Chad and I think comes up again in a VO from another guy in the season preview. Why?
- to be the chip on his shoulder, insecure guy with issues edit?
- to appeal to the viewer's heartstrings because he "kept at it, trained really hard and ultimately made it"?

2) show that Jordan's one seriously relationship failed because of his commitment to his career. Why?
- because that sounds better than having cheated on someone? (if he did—I don't follow NFL and have no idea if this is fact or not. (Yay, we'll find out tomorrow!)
- or did she really just fall out of love with him and ended it herself but that isn't a "good enough story"?
- all of the above because he really doesn't have enough "bad boy" in him to shed doubt as a possible F1?
                   

I wonder now if the reason that we saw Pavelka, aside from his tie to Jo, is because this season is similar to his season: Jake, despite all warnings and advice, pursued and chose the "bad" girl of his season, the one caught up in the middle of messiness.

I want to see what happens tomorrow night. But good grief, what did Jordan do during filming?

ETA: I don't think that Jordan is the next lead unless they really work a sympathy edit farther down the line (which I think is not likely). Luke, however, has next lead written all over him. To some extent, maybe Chase.