Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

by Miyala Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:05 pm

Lucas15 wrote:
Miyala wrote:But then again that doesn't fit the FRC when he said " I love another one…more"…

But it could fit. He could be shown as confused over loving two women without having said ILU to both of them - that is, after all, how the show usually is played out when the lead hasn't said ILU to anyone yet.

For what it's worth I always believed the "I do love you" shown in the preview was less a statement of love and more had a "but" or some sort of qualifier that was edited out.

Thats true. That could be it. That would suit with one I love you to Lauren (on the sofa) and the other one (with a but after, that I also believe he will say) when he says good bye to Caila (?) after his date with Lauren (?).

by Ash2214 Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:05 pm

mindless wrote:
Miyala wrote:But they showed that make out session already in the first episode so there would be no reason not to show that I love you or? I don't think he said it there. I believe he said it in the FS (off camera) IF he said it to Jojo. I`m starting to believe he only said it to Lauren and Caila and the rest is hype… But then again that doesn't fit the FRC when he said " I love another one…more"… Probably he said it to 3 persons then… Hm… Or both shown times to Lauren and the Jojo behind doors…

They couldn't show who he's saying it to in the previews, so if it's in the middle of a makeout session then they wouldn't show it. That's why they used those two clips where you can't see the woman he's saying it to, and I still think they're both said to Lauren. The one in the morning sounds like he's just reassuring her before leaving. It was already sleuthed that it took place at the pool area of Lauren's FS, so why would Caila be there? I think he meets Caila when he's wearing the green T-shirt and I don't think he says ILY to her. I think by that time he's already said it the other two and he figures no point dragging Caila along any further, so he dumps her. She has some Bachette audition meltdown and that's it. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. JMO.

Yes to all of this.

by Miyala Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:07 pm

mindless wrote:
Miyala wrote:But they showed that make out session already in the first episode so there would be no reason not to show that I love you or? I don't think he said it there. I believe he said it in the FS (off camera) IF he said it to Jojo. I`m starting to believe he only said it to Lauren and Caila and the rest is hype… But then again that doesn't fit the FRC when he said " I love another one…more"… Probably he said it to 3 persons then… Hm… Or both shown times to Lauren and the Jojo behind doors…

They couldn't show who he's saying it to in the previews, so if it's in the middle of a makeout session then they wouldn't show it. That's why they used those two clips where you can't see the woman he's saying it to, and I still think they're both said to Lauren. The one in the morning sounds like he's just reassuring her before leaving. It was already sleuthed that it took place at the pool area of Lauren's FS, so why would Caila be there? I think he meets Caila when he's wearing the green T-shirt and I don't think he says ILY to her. I think by that time he's already said it the other two and he figures no point dragging Caila along any further, so he dumps her. She has some Bachette audition meltdown and that's it. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. JMO.

Now I get what you mean :yes:

. I didn't know that it was sleuthed that it took place at Laurens place. Then everything make sense. Also that he is wearing green while crying so hard! I believe you are right!

by Jeepers Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:07 pm

Either scenario actually works... But the above does make a bit more sense

by Jeepers Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:10 pm

Anyone know where the pics of Lauren's FS are??

by Ladybug82 Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:25 pm

Jeepers wrote:Anyone know where the pics of Lauren's FS are??

If your wanting SC from the preview, they're with all other SC's in the SC No Discussion Thread.

If your wanting pics of the locations that have been sleuthed out you'll have to dig back threw the no discussion thread or the SC Discussion/Sleuthing Thread.

ETA: I think the posts linked back to are what your asking for or at least around the general they're in.

by mindless Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:30 pm

Jeepers wrote:Anyone know where the pics of Lauren's FS are??

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3303p528-the-bachelor-20-ben-higgins-scaps-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers#922341

Pics of Ben with Lauren outside the FS:

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3303p492-the-bachelor-20-ben-higgins-scaps-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers#922069

Litta123 wrote:No problem, Ladybug!

I'm almost done uploading. One thing I've noticed is the "I love you" cap that we've been discussing might be tied to Lauren. Check out Ben's shirt. I'll try to get a better one after I've uploaded the rest of the caps.

Compare with the pool area of Villa Plantana:

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by agentcurls Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:39 pm

SO, if the 2 ILYs in previews are with Lauren....
Isn't it possible he also told JoJo ILY sometime during FD/LCD (or something along those lines) but we just haven't seen it in a preview yet? Maybe TPTB are dangling a carrot here. Ben doesn't say " I said ILY twice", He says "I told 2 women I loved them...but I love someone....more" and "I'm in love with two women here."
I cannot see him saying that to Caila. Maybe he just lets her go at F3 knowing he doesn't think he CAN love her, simple as that.

by KB_Mom Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:44 pm

:con1: One of the interns laundered that darn :angryemotion

dark gray\blue T shirt and had Ben wear it again on a completely different filming day to drive us crazy trying to sleuth this out. :headbanging

by NCGalBecca Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:45 pm

The presser says this:

Ben goes into his final date of the week more confused than ever. Jo Jo is nervous after her contentious hometown date but is hoping it won’t derail her relationship with Ben. They fly off in a helicopter, arriving at a storybook setting: a magnificent waterfall deep in the jungle. The two take a dip before they get down to more serious matters: expressing their deep feelings for one another.

The next day, Caila, hoping for more time with Ben, surprises him in his bachelor pad. Will she find the romance she was seeking to validate their connection?

But you guys are saying in reality..Caila comes to see him when? Before or after Lauren's date?

It also sounds like she didn't get lucky or get I love you if she still needs validation.

by julychild Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:48 pm

NCGalBecca wrote:The presser says this:
Ben goes into his final date of the week more confused than ever. Jo Jo is nervous after her contentious hometown date but is hoping it won’t derail her relationship with Ben. They fly off in a helicopter, arriving at a storybook setting: a magnificent waterfall deep in the jungle. The two take a dip before they get down to more serious matters: expressing their deep feelings for one another.

The next day, Caila, hoping for more time with Ben, surprises him in his bachelor pad. Will she find the romance she was seeking to validate their connection?

But you guys are saying in reality..Caila comes to see him when? Before or after Lauren's date?

Hey there is a balcony scene where he appears to be wearing the same shirt he has on for Jojo's date. What if Caila goes there before that date and sent home?

by Guest Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:49 pm

Ash2214 wrote:
mindless wrote:
Miyala wrote:But they showed that make out session already in the first episode so there would be no reason not to show that I love you or? I don't think he said it there. I believe he said it in the FS (off camera) IF he said it to Jojo. I`m starting to believe he only said it to Lauren and Caila and the rest is hype… But then again that doesn't fit the FRC when he said " I love another one…more"… Probably he said it to 3 persons then… Hm… Or both shown times to Lauren and the Jojo behind doors…

They couldn't show who he's saying it to in the previews, so if it's in the middle of a makeout session then they wouldn't show it. That's why they used those two clips where you can't see the woman he's saying it to, and I still think they're both said to Lauren. The one in the morning sounds like he's just reassuring her before leaving. It was already sleuthed that it took place at the pool area of Lauren's FS, so why would Caila be there? I think he meets Caila when he's wearing the green T-shirt and I don't think he says ILY to her. I think by that time he's already said it the other two and he figures no point dragging Caila along any further, so he dumps her. She has some Bachette audition meltdown and that's it. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. JMO.

What exactly is a " Bachette audition breakdown?" Wouldn't causing that kind of scene hurt the contestant's chance? The argument could be made , IMO, that if Caila causes that kind of scene she wouldn't have gotten over Ben by the time of filming for the Bachelorette. Amanda or JoJo (if she's f2) should get the Bachelorette gig IMO

Yes to all of this.

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