Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

by Tiggerlgh Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:10 pm

julychild wrote:Hopefully Caila doesn't say "why did you make love to me..." when she is being let go. That would be wild!!!!!

Something comes out about the FD when she is let go. My gut is you are close to what happens.

IMHO

by bronco18 Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:12 pm

Tiggerlgh wrote:I think our second to last filming schedule is accurate:

Snipped from link below

Epi 9 FD - Resorts used:
11/5-6 Travel FD's in Jamaica
11/7 FD1 - Caila - dinner and ocean romp
11/8 day off - Caila seen walking around Ocho Sandal's Grand Riviera resort / tweet-pic
11/9 FD2 - Heli took off from resort
11/10 day off
11/11 FD3
11/12 RC

Epi 10 LCD/MTP
11/13 travelling
11/14 mtp1
11/15 mtp2
11/16 LCD1
11/17 LCD2
11/18 FRC

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3184p36-the-bachelor-20-ben-higgins-filming-schedule-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

ETA: I think he lets Calia go when she comes to visit him (a set up I am sure) as he knows his feelings aren't as strong for her as the other two he said ILY to, This also explains his comments about letting a girl go when he wasn't expecting it or however he had it in his blog.

Other than the two ILYs I doubt there is much of anything shocking on Monday night.

ALL IMHO

IMO this is the schedule. So, with Lauren's FD being filmed last, it is possible that the "I do love you" scene is to Lauren with Ben possibly telling her about his ILY to JoJo. So, if they switch around the dates when the episode airs, they will probably cut that scene. It was likely just used to bait the viewers into thinking that was ILY#2 to a different girl. JMO - trying to be skeptical.

by Lucas15 Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:13 pm

Ladybug82 wrote:Your schedule sounds more realistic time frame wise and that would mean that it would've been Calia, Jojo then Lauren in filming order. So if they change the order of viewing to Calia, Lauren then Jojo, it's probably just to ramp up the drama and lead into even more first in bachelor history or the most dramatic ___________ (fill in the blank).

And to me it sounds realistic in terms of the way the producers would want it. They know that Lauren is in love with Ben (they filmed her in Warsaw saying she was) and they know she hasn't told him; she wanted to on the HTD but I think they got her to hold back. So if they hope to get anything out of Ben they need him to go through the other two FDs before they will give Lauren a chance to tell him. That's filming order though. If they got Ben to tell JoJo he loved her then they would want to make viewers believe he did that after he said it to Lauren - not before, so we'll see it aired in a different order.

by Guest Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:15 pm

julychild wrote:Hopefully Caila doesn't say "why did you make love to me..." when she is being let go. That would be wild!!!!!

I'm thinking she says "why did you tell me you loved me?" That seems to be what Ben's blog, the preview and the press release seem to imply. If the 2 ILYs are Lauren and that, then I change my opinion that it was all much ado about nothing and a producers story and Ette audition ala Andi for Caila.

It would seem dumb to then go into a finale with 2 different girls, not the 2 he said ILY to, so really bad storytelling if that's the case IMO but the typical F3 drama. How do they promote the finale if the second girl he said he loves has already left at F3? That would be weird. And I'll want Jojo for the Bachelorette even that much more.

by Tiggerlgh Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:15 pm

I do think he says ILY to two girls JoJo and Lauren. Based on what I have seen the two they have shown to date are to Lauren but there will be a 2nd ILY to JoJo in the episode.

by bluwavz Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:17 pm

Tiggerlgh wrote:
julychild wrote:Hopefully Caila doesn't say "why did you make love to me..." when she is being let go. That would be wild!!!!!

Something comes out about the FD when she is let go. My gut is you are close to what happens.

IMHO

I doubt it. They'd be hyping that up big time if she did. I don't expect anything dramatic to happen with Caila's exit. Whatever is revealed about her FS, if anything, it will probably be meh.

JMO.

by asim Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:17 pm

Tiggerlgh wrote:^^^ that is how we originally had the schedule was Calia, Lauren and then JoJo. How did we get the dates of the FDs? I know Calia was spotted on hers so that is easy. We never changed the Helicopter date (all schedules have that on 11/9) How did we find that out?

Just trying to figure out the real vs shown order for sure.

The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Social Media - Vids - Media - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* NO Discussion page 3, there are two tweets,saying about Bachelor Heli rides today. That was 11/9 Hope that helps

by Julie81 Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:20 pm

I just don't see her saying "then why did you make love to me"

Am I naive to think Ben isn't going to sleep with them all? He claims to have set boundaries blah blah blah.

by bronco18 Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:22 pm

bluwavz wrote:
Tiggerlgh wrote:
julychild wrote:Hopefully Caila doesn't say "why did you make love to me..." when she is being let go. That would be wild!!!!!

Something comes out about the FD when she is let go. My gut is you are close to what happens.

IMHO

I doubt it. They'd be hyping that up big time if she did. I don't expect anything dramatic to happen with Caila's exit. Whatever is revealed about her FS, if anything, it will probably be meh.

JMO.

^IA. And how do we know that it's Caila's FD that something comes out of? What if it's Jojo regarding an "ILY" behind closed doors?

by Lucas15 Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:23 pm

julychild wrote:Hopefully Caila doesn't say "why did you make love to me..." when she is being let go. That would be wild!!!!!

What if she says instead "Why didn't you make love to me?"

by Ladybug82 Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:25 pm

Tiggerlgh wrote: How did we find that out? Just trying to figure out the real vs shown order for sure.

We know Calia's date was on the 7th and have tweets (RS and others):

umngirl wrote:Update. No Greece.
@RealitySteve 54s55 seconds ago

(SPOILER CORRECTION): Overnights and final rose ceremony are NOT in Greece. They are at the Sands Royal Plantation in Jamaica.

umngirl wrote:
@RealitySteve 52s53 seconds ago

(SPOILER): Ben & Caila's overnight date last night. Was a fireworks show 4 them when they went for a swim later on

Source

pitci wrote:I didn't see this photo/tweet posted here--sorry if it's already been posted.
Matt Cobb ‏@mcobb2020 Nov 7 Jamaica
Looks like @BachelorABC shooting at Sandals Royal Plantation Jamaica

Source

We know the helicopter date was on the 9th per tweets:

GuardianAngel wrote:
Rolly wrote:Tweet from mcobb2020 Bach helicopter rides today. On my phone can't bring it over.

He has a pic not sure how he knows it's Bachelor related.

Thanks Rolly! and Thanks mcobb2020!

Matt Cobb ‏@mcobb2020 31m31 minutes ago Jamaica @AftertheRose @RealitySteve Looks like some @BachelorABC helicopter tour dates today over Jamaica

Source (all from the Filming No Discussion thread)

We didn't have info on the turtle date that I remember or found scrolling back through the thread. But realistically, it would make sense schedule wise and knowing TPTB want to drag out Lauren getting to tell him she loved him, for her date to be last and on the 11th.

by Ash2214 Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:27 pm

Lucas15 wrote:
julychild wrote:Hopefully Caila doesn't say "why did you make love to me..." when she is being let go. That would be wild!!!!!

What if she says instead "Why didn't you make love to me?"

I was going to say that the release says she goes to his place to get more time with him and it says "does she get the validation she was seeking?" So maybe she didn't get what she wanted on their date.

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