The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
I think what doesn't stay in Fantasy Suite is talk between Calia and Ben. She tells him at dinner she's in love with him. There's talk in the FS about his feelings toward her but she's not clear where she stands\what he meant, so she goes to see him alone to get "validation." In that convo, Ben clarifies that he did not say\express in FS what Calia thinks he said\expressed, he knows with the miscommunication, he can't wait to RC to let her go, so he says goodbye then. Calia has a meltdown, i.e., next Bette audition. JMO
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Lucas15 wrote:julychild wrote:Hopefully Caila doesn't say "why did you make love to me..." when she is being let go. That would be wild!!!!!
What if she says instead "Why didn't you make love to me?"
Pulling a Sarah...or Nick, either way would be wild. I just hope she doesn't say anything along those lines.
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Or .. Could be that the comments/reaction made/seen in the green t-shirt have to do with letting Caila go...
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relaxing wrote:julychild wrote:Hopefully Caila doesn't say "why did you make love to me..." when she is being let go. That would be wild!!!!!
I'm thinking she says "why did you tell me you loved me?" That seems to be what Ben's blog, the preview and the press release seem to imply. If the 2 ILYs are Lauren and that, then I change my opinion that it was all much ado about nothing and a producers story and Ette audition ala Andi for Caila.
It would seem dumb to then go into a finale with 2 different girls, not the 2 he said ILY to, so really bad storytelling if that's the case IMO but the typical F3 drama. How do they promote the finale if the second girl he said he loves has already left at F3? That would be weird. And I'll want Jojo for the Bachelorette even that much more.
Yes, It could be she asks him why did you tell me you love me and he answeres "I do love U". He has the same clothes on as after Laurens date while saying that right? If Laurens date was last it will suit with that one girl came to his place after the last date and something shocking then took place.
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I think there will be a BUT after the I do love you
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What has never happened before is the ILY .. During FDs .. Andy told both girls on the LCDs
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julychild wrote:Lucas15 wrote:julychild wrote:Hopefully Caila doesn't say "why did you make love to me..." when she is being let go. That would be wild!!!!!
What if she says instead "Why didn't you make love to me?"
Pulling a Sarah...or Nick, either way would be wild. I just hope she doesn't say anything along those lines.
Sort of; my tongue was a little bit in my cheek when I posted that, but ...
As I think about these girls who (in many but not all) cases are not virgins, they've been in the bubble and believe (to at least some extent) they are in love with The Bachelor and they would be expecting to be intimate in the fantasy suite. So how would someone in that state of mind feel if the bachelor didn't want to be intimate with them? Would they see it as a lack of validation?
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bilolo wrote:Didn't Brad tell Emily he loved her too ?
Yes!! Early too, before hometowns as I recall.
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After looking at those SCs again .. I think the I DO LOVE YOU is said to Caila .. With a big fat BUT after that ( this happens after his 3rd filmed FD with Lauren .. The facial hair/shirt gives that away) which is shown out of order .. When Caila goes to see him .. He ultimately sends her packing tho .. The resulting melt down in the green shirt is the result of the realization of what he did or the painful decision he needs to make
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The release states that he's madly in love with his final two women, so if he says I love you to Caila, even if there is a "but" after it, wouldn't that technically be three women he says it to? IMO, they can't not show it or at least we need to hear him say it to both JoJo and Lauren for the viewers to believe he's madly in love with his F2 like the release is saying. IMO
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If he told JoJo .. It's not being addressed or shown .. Good chance he didn't say it .. The description is all hype anyways .. They will show Lauren's because of the storyline .. They would show Cailas because of the story line .. Letting her go at F3
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Julie81 wrote:I just don't see her saying "then why did you make love to me"
Am I naive to think Ben isn't going to sleep with them all? He claims to have set boundaries blah blah blah.
Based on the morning after Scs, I doubt he had sex with any or only just Lauren
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