Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

So his bio & photos were posted publically/spoiled/whatever else on 3rd of April? giving a good month till the phone convo for ppl to see and recognize he's a contestant?

emusha wrote:So his bio & photos were posted publically/spoiled/whatever else on 3rd of April? giving a good month till the phone convo for ppl to see and recognize he's a contestant?

Myself and Chloe identified him a day or so before yes. RS posted him a few days later.

sdmom wrote:I go back and forth about the video. For me personally, IF the video is a foiler , then
1. All three were involved and agreed to do it, either as a joke or to throw people off. Remember Elan's fake tweet war with Diane?
2. This is a wild guess, but we didn't hear the entire conversations, what if the person on the other line had said "how would you react if you were f2" or "what would be your worst words against Andi/Josh".
I know I know, I am grasping straws here!!
It's not the contents of the video that make me go hmmm..., it's the circumstances that are questionable, IMO. Again, what are the chances of someone who happened to recognize Nick days before his bio was released, who immediately sent the video to RS (instead of this board!!) out of the supposedly 50 passengers of that flight? How come no one else came forward to support the video? What about the passenger who was next to Nick and complained he's too loud? Nick didn't notice he was being filmed and being followed? Things really make me scratch my head....
So, sophie, like you can't "get around the video being fake", I can't get around how the video was made and sent to RS right away.
Anyway, I don't even know if we will get all our questions answered.

Totally agree with your post sdmom.... and it is easy to focus on the execution or circumstances because there are so many more questions.

But to the issue of motivation...

I think it's likely that Nick, Elan and Andi were in on it initially... not sure about Josh...
Did TPTB need to legally get Josh to buy into the tape? probably not.
Still, maybe the producers told him about the tape afterwards and sold it to him like we're doing this to give you the next Bach edit, maybe not. Not sure.

And another key point I think is that this is not real life and I think in the whirlwind of the moment the contestants have to trust what the producers tell then since they have little/no experience with how to deal with SM in the entertainment space. Do some of them get led down the garden path?? totally, but in the heat of the moment, I think they can be easily manipulated to consider, say and do things they might not in normal life.

Does Nick know about Elan's SM outings - I would say yes.
Could he be convinced that this was a smart move to hide in plain sight - I would say yes.
Is he in on the joke and willing to help TPTB bring RS down - based on his recent tweets - particularly the one this week from Chicago when he was supposedly in LA - I would say yes.

On thing didn't RS say Nick came home 1 day before Josh?

And the plane video is real but was input out there for a spoiler?

Also I have never seen a F2 ( spoiled) be so happy post show.posting IG tweeting up a storm.Being in LA when the spoiled F1 is home in Tampa tweeting nothing about him and Andi.

I guess this is minds games to the fullest.

I bet the producers are having a field day with this..and I wouldn't put it past Elan to have created all of this.

We must remember that Nick must have been liked by them to know where to go to find Andi after she sent home Eric..got to go to her room with producers help!

I mean before his official photos released by abc, which I think on May 12-14? I don't remember.
However, I have to say, I consider myself  a big Nick fan and I feel he looks very different in many of his photos pre show. So whoever recognized him on May 11 had very good eyes.

Hotmomma wrote:On thing didn't RS say Nick came home 1 day before Josh?

And the plane video is real but was input out there for a spoiler?

Also I have never seen a F2 ( spoiled) be so happy post show.posting IG tweeting up a storm.Being in LA when the spoiled F1 is home in Tampa tweeting nothing about him and Andi.

I guess this is minds games to the fullest.

I am like emusha trying to put the clues together.If I had to guess RIGHT  now it would be Nick.

just wait until after the show tonight Hotmomma!!!   

SueSt wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:On thing didn't RS say Nick came home 1 day before Josh?

And the plane video is real but was input out there for a spoiler?

Also I have never seen a F2 ( spoiled) be so happy post show.posting IG tweeting up a storm.Being in LA when the spoiled F1 is home in Tampa tweeting nothing about him and Andi.

I guess this is minds games to the fullest.

I am like emusha trying to put the clues together.If I had to guess RIGHT  now it would be Nick.

just wait until after the show tonight Hotmomma!!!   

Sue you are quick I was editing my post!

^^ timing is everything in life...   

And the plane video is real but was input out there for a spoiler?

very interesting! RS said this? when did the video come out?

For me I can believe that a super fan of RS just happened to sit behind him and hear the conversation. We don't hear the beginning that may have registered Nick was talking about the Bach and the person really wouldn't even have to know what he looked like. I can believe this before some elaborate hoax but that's just me.

If I remember correctly, someone said RS said someone "recognized" Nick, not someone who heard Nick talking about the show. Anyway, I can see points from both sides and I myself changes my mind all the time!
I appreciate everyone being honest and open in this discussion  .

sdmom wrote:I mean before his official photos released by abc, which I think on May 12-14? I don't remember.
However, I have to say, I consider myself  a big Nick fan and I feel he looks very different in many of his photos pre show. So whoever recognized him on May 11 had very good eyes.

This! I find so much about this video to be a remarkable set of coincidents that it stretches credulity.