Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

soccermom333 wrote:

sophienette wrote:Could "he didnt open up" (note, he doesnt say "he didnt open up to her") refer to Josh not sharing his dates play by play with the other guys?

BTW, "super emotional and highly insecure" are not digs? Really? Th feelings maybe, bu the additions of "super" and "highly" to me turns the whole comment into a jab at Josh.

As for Andi, I m sure she loved hearing a guy calling her "incredibly stubborn" and "passive aggressive" after being supposedly in love with her 48 hours prior.

IMO

Best post!     The video is real and I am sure Andi did not like hearing she was "passive aggressive."    

Nick speaks the truth.

It's funny because he called Josh  super emotional highly insecure but he's the super emotional and highly insecure one. :giggle:

Does anyone get an idea of when Nick thinks Andi changed her mind? In the video he says she changed her mind at the last moment. Do you think he meant she changed her mind that day?

Cecilia as I said i my 2nd post, just because it is the truth (his POV of it anyway) does not make it not insulting.

To add, I am not judging all of Nick based on this Vid. It is 1 moment, 1 mood.

Cecilia wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:

sophienette wrote:Could "he didnt open up" (note, he doesnt say "he didnt open up to her") refer to Josh not sharing his dates play by play with the other guys?

BTW, "super emotional and highly insecure" are not digs? Really? Th feelings maybe, bu the additions of "super" and "highly" to me turns the whole comment into a jab at Josh.

As for Andi, I m sure she loved hearing a guy calling her "incredibly stubborn" and "passive aggressive" after being supposedly in love with her 48 hours prior.

IMO

Best post!     The video is real and I am sure Andi did not like hearing she was "passive aggressive."    

Nick speaks the truth.

We can argue all day whether Andi is passive aggressive or not, but I stand by my opinion that she probably did not like hearing that.

Sounds like a whiny looser

janeh810 wrote:Does anyone get an idea of when Nick thinks Andi changed her mind?  In the video he says she changed her mind at the last moment.  Do you think he meant she changed her mind that day?  

Since he thought he was F1 I feel he thinks she changed her mind at the end because he really had no clue what she had with anyone else.

ThankMeLater wrote:It's funny because he called Josh  super emotional highly insecure but he's the super emotional and highly insecure one. :giggle:

This is actually a great point. Josh has been nothing but confident and chill all season, letting Andi come to him and created a situation where she gave pis that she needs to feel that Josh's feeling for other girls pale in comparison to what he feels for her. What other girls???? She's THE girl! And Nick is the one who is being insecure and acting a little nuts.

Nick thinks she changed her mind the day of the FRC?

janeh810 wrote:Does anyone get an idea of when Nick thinks Andi changed her mind?  In the video he says she changed her mind at the last moment.  Do you think he meant she changed her mind that day?  

In my opinion, Andi did not change her mind. Her mind was made up on Josh but nick said that because he was led on by her AND the producers. TPTB were in his ear all season telling him how much Andi liked him etc.    They probably went as far as saying it's all you even as he was walking out to propose. They do this every season for drama.    Period.

Just remember Nick seems fine now and his friends and family have his back.

pander3575 wrote:

janeh810 wrote:Does anyone get an idea of when Nick thinks Andi changed her mind?  In the video he says she changed her mind at the last moment.  Do you think he meant she changed her mind that day?  

Since he thought he was F1 I feel he thinks she changed her mind at the end because he really had no clue what she had with anyone else.

Bingo!! TPTB really know what their doing! UGH!   

I actually agree with you Sophie.

Just that I view 'a dig/ a jab' as something you say when you want to hurt someone (because you are negative towards them), when you know it's not really true, or just partially ... when I say something that I mean and think and I stand behind my words, then I don't try to make a dig at someone, I call it like I see it and if I'm wrong, then only when realizing the mistake I can apologize.

And yes, Nick is the same "super emotional and highly insecure"...
but that just proves what I always say, when you judge people, you're judging them based on your own image/understanding and many times when people criticize others, they say more about themselves than the other side. Because through your critic and judgment you show your own insecurities and weakness.