Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

GuardianAngel wrote:RS is a rude obnoxious fame hungry idiot. If he was a nice guy, he wouldn't speak the way he does. As you can see, he's is already preparing to throw it all back into everyone's face "because he gets information that no one else does". I will stop here because I don't want to be rude and obnoxious.

There has been good discussion as to why the vid hasn't been mentioned in the media and that the vid is the reason for Nick's edit.

I have found that CH has done nothing but stick up for Nick in his blogs. This is just another strange piece of the puzzle.

Can you summarize the theories for why it hasn't been mentioned in media? I've only heard RS's reasoning.

GuardianAngel wrote:RS is a rude obnoxious fame hungry idiot. If he was a nice guy, he wouldn't speak the way he does. As you can see, he's is already preparing to throw it all back into everyone's face "because he gets information that no one else does". I will stop here because I don't want to be rude and obnoxious.

There has been good discussion as to why the vid hasn't been mentioned in the media and that the vid is the reason for Nick's edit.

I have found that CH has done nothing but stick up for Nick in his blogs. This is just another strange piece of the puzzle.

Maybe we should ask him aboout the same lengthy post on why he got Brooks, Drew and more wrong last year? he pushed that under the rug fast enough!

At this point, RS may as well have wall to wall carpeting. 

Kashathediva wrote:At this point, RS may as well have wall to wall carpeting. 

LOL!!! seriously!!   

GuardianAngel wrote:RS is a rude obnoxious fame hungry idiot. If he was a nice guy, he wouldn't speak the way he does. As you can see, he's is already preparing to throw it all back into everyone's face "because he gets information that no one else does". I will stop here because I don't want to be rude and obnoxious.

There has been good discussion as to why the vid hasn't been mentioned in the media and that the vid is the reason for Nick's edit.

I have found that CH has done nothing but stick up for Nick in his blogs. This is just another strange piece of the puzzle.

He only is pleasant when you agree with what he is saying. He said it's nobody associated with the show, but yet it's 100% verified. They recognized Nick and started recording. That is even more of a red flag because the show did not start airing until May 22nd. So, it it was a complete stranger, and the show had not started airing, and the person just happened to recognize Nick and start taping him? Yeah, okay.

My post was originally in Nick's fan forum and it got deleted so will move to this thread which is the "correct" spot to post.

For video conspiracy theorists: why would Nick say rude things about Josh who just got dumped and heartbroken? Some have said "dry humor." I just think the Nick a lot of us like wouldn't do that.....Thoughts?

Cecilia wrote:My post was originally in Nick's fan forum and it got deleted so will move to this thread which is the "correct" spot to post.

For video conspiracy theorists:  why would Nick say rude things about Josh who just got dumped and heartbroken?  Some have said "dry humor."  I just think the Nick a lot of us like wouldn't do that.....Thoughts?

We are getting to know the multi-sided Nick. He is cunning (explains successful career) but then again very real. I wouldn't put it past him if this was a coping mechanism and was just candid with his words expressing how he truly felt at that time. He may have been talking to his bestie (the girl who got married) and describing competition.

Cecilia wrote:My post was originally in Nick's fan forum and it got deleted so will move to this thread which is the "correct" spot to post.

For video conspiracy theorists:  why would Nick say rude things about Josh who just got dumped and heartbroken?  Some have said "dry humor."  I just think the Nick a lot of us like wouldn't do that.....Thoughts?

ITA. To me, that's actually the most difficult part of believing this is a foiler, because it means that Nick was willing to badmouth the guy he beat out (I think that's the epitome of being a "sore winner") in order to advance the producers' agenda. Nothing like kicking someone when he's down.    I hope Nick wouldn't be a party to that at ANY price.

ironcat wrote:

Cecilia wrote:My post was originally in Nick's fan forum and it got deleted so will move to this thread which is the "correct" spot to post.

For video conspiracy theorists:  why would Nick say rude things about Josh who just got dumped and heartbroken?  Some have said "dry humor."  I just think the Nick a lot of us like wouldn't do that.....Thoughts?

ITA.  To me, that's actually the most difficult part of believing this is a foiler, because it means that Nick was willing to badmouth the guy he beat out (I think that's the epitome of being a "sore winner") in order to advance the producers' agenda.  Nothing like kicking someone when he's down.      I hope Nick wouldn't be a party to that at ANY price.

Thank you!

ironcat wrote:

Cecilia wrote:My post was originally in Nick's fan forum and it got deleted so will move to this thread which is the "correct" spot to post.

For video conspiracy theorists:  why would Nick say rude things about Josh who just got dumped and heartbroken?  Some have said "dry humor."  I just think the Nick a lot of us like wouldn't do that.....Thoughts?

ITA.  To me, that's actually the most difficult part of believing this is a foiler, because it means that Nick was willing to badmouth the guy he beat out (I think that's the epitome of being a "sore winner") in order to advance the producers' agenda.  Nothing like kicking someone when he's down.      I hope Nick wouldn't be a party to that at ANY price.

We discussed this a while back in depth. To me he didn't really say much wrong about Josh. It wasn't a tirade in any form. It was his opinion, if someone saying I am boring or all I do is lay around is terrible then heck that would be great.

I just don't see anything Nick said being that inflammatory. I still remember all the crap Ben said about Ashley after he was dumped. Nick is really tame compared to that. Maybe because Nick is not the hot head Ben was, but none of this is that shocking to me.

Remember Josh is the guy who is friends with a blogger who called him a Florida Douche the first time she met him. That is a whole lot more offensive to me then anything Nick said in that video.

rosesrREd wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:RS is a rude obnoxious fame hungry idiot. If he was a nice guy, he wouldn't speak the way he does. As you can see, he's is already preparing to throw it all back into everyone's face "because he gets information that no one else does". I will stop here because I don't want to be rude and obnoxious.

There has been good discussion as to why the vid hasn't been mentioned in the media and that the vid is the reason for Nick's edit.

I have found that CH has done nothing but stick up for Nick in his blogs. This is just another strange piece of the puzzle.

He only is pleasant when you agree with what he is saying.  He said it's nobody associated with the show, but yet it's 100% verified.  They recognized Nick and started recording.  That is even more of a red flag because the show did not start airing until May 22nd.  So, it it was a complete stranger, and the show had not started airing, and the person just happened to recognize Nick and start taping him?  Yeah, okay.

It leads me to believe RS hired someone(s) to stake out certain airports at certain times. 
Either this ^
or that
foiler.

stuckinsc wrote:

ironcat wrote:

Cecilia wrote:My post was originally in Nick's fan forum and it got deleted so will move to this thread which is the "correct" spot to post.

For video conspiracy theorists:  why would Nick say rude things about Josh who just got dumped and heartbroken?  Some have said "dry humor."  I just think the Nick a lot of us like wouldn't do that.....Thoughts?

ITA.  To me, that's actually the most difficult part of believing this is a foiler, because it means that Nick was willing to badmouth the guy he beat out (I think that's the epitome of being a "sore winner") in order to advance the producers' agenda.  Nothing like kicking someone when he's down.      I hope Nick wouldn't be a party to that at ANY price.

We discussed this a while back in depth.  To me he didn't really say much wrong about Josh.  It wasn't a tirade in any form.  It was his opinion, if someone saying I am boring or all I do is lay around is terrible then heck that would be great.  

I just don't see anything Nick said being that inflammatory.  I still remember all the crap Ben said about Ashley after he was dumped.  Nick is really tame compared to that.  Maybe because Nick is not the hot head Ben was, but none of this is that shocking to me.

Remember Josh is the guy who is friends with a blogger who called him a Florida Douche the first time she met him.  That is a whole lot more offensive to me then anything Nick said in that video.

This sort of proves my point.  Ben said those things about Ashley, and I can totally forgive him, precisely because he was dumped and hurt.  Had JP said anything unflattering about Ben right after Ben got his heart stomped on, much as I adore the guy, I'd be very disappointed in him.  Just not nice, even if the stuff said was "not too bad", or if it was done as part of a foiler, unless Josh was in on it all, which I find very hard to believe, just a day after getting HIS heart stomped on.

Regarding what RS said, when did he post Nick's picture on his site as one of the contestants? Is it possible the person who recorded the video is a regular reader of his blog who recognized Nick from the pictures already posted by RS? It sounded to me that this wasn't just some random stranger who sent him the video but one of his "loyal fans".  :vomit: