Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

Alanna wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:It's funny because he called Josh  super emotional highly insecure but he's the super emotional and highly insecure one. :giggle:

This is actually a great point. Josh has been nothing but confident and chill all season, letting Andi come to him and created a situation where she gave pis that she needs to feel that Josh's feeling for other girls pale in comparison to what he feels for her. What other girls???? She's THE girl! And Nick is the one who is being nuts and acting a little nuts.

Alanna, you bring up a great point. Andi was chasing Josh. Big clue.   

Now, can someone please explain his referance to Andi saying something like "this is too hard", I can't do this, I'm scared sh**less. And, what is she scared of and what can't she do? Is Andi telling Nick this at the rejection?

sophienette wrote:Cecilia as I said i my 2nd post, just because it is the truth (his POV of it anyway) does not make it not insulting.

To add, I am not judging all of Nick based on this Vid. It is 1 moment, 1 mood.

1. I don't think stubborn or passive aggressive are implausible descriptions of Andi.
2. I'm pretty sure Nick felt insulted that he had been dumped after the fantasy suite. If you are not hurt and upset then you probably didn't really feel it.

Janeh ... I think those words are Nicks' interpretation of Andi's (different) words and actions.

happygolucky wrote:Janeh ... I think those words are Nicks' interpretation of Andi's (different) words and actions.

Throughout the season?

soccermom333 wrote:

Alanna wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:It's funny because he called Josh  super emotional highly insecure but he's the super emotional and highly insecure one. :giggle:

This is actually a great point. Josh has been nothing but confident and chill all season, letting Andi come to him and created a situation where she gave pis that she needs to feel that Josh's feeling for other girls pale in comparison to what he feels for her. What other girls???? She's THE girl! And Nick is the one who is being nuts and acting a little nuts.

Alanna, you bring up a great point.  Andi was chasing Josh.  Big clue.    

I agree; Andi is chasing Josh.
I can only relate this to my own life... where I was chasing lots of guys that were not the right fit... and then I met my husband and he pursued me.
It was SUCH a change in my 'love' dynamic, that it took me off guard.. and was very hard to adjust to actually, but at the end of the day, when I was finally willing to open my heart to someone being good to me, it was life changing. I felt loved and cherished in a way that surpassed my dreams. The barrier was in me and with the right person I was able to remove it and find authentic (not fantasy) love.
Not saying that this is how it goes down with Andi... but her journey definitely resonates for me.

happygolucky wrote:Janeh ... I think those words are Nicks' interpretation of Andi's (different) words and actions.

Regarding her saying she was scared, and saying this is too hard, could she have said things like that to him when she was rejecting him.  Sort of like she was having another melt-down?

SueSt wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:

Alanna wrote:
This is actually a great point. Josh has been nothing but confident and chill all season, letting Andi come to him and created a situation where she gave pis that she needs to feel that Josh's feeling for other girls pale in comparison to what he feels for her. What other girls???? She's THE girl! And Nick is the one who is being nuts and acting a little nuts.

Alanna, you bring up a great point.  Andi was chasing Josh.  Big clue.    

I agree; Andi is chasing Josh.  
I can only relate this to my own life... where I was chasing lots of guys that were not the right fit... and then I met my husband and he pursued me.
It was SUCH a change in my 'love' dynamic, that it took me off guard.. and was very hard to adjust to actually, but at the end of the day, when I was finally willing to open my heart to someone being good to me, it was life changing.  I felt loved and cherished in a way that surpassed my dreams.  The barrier was in me and with the right person I was able to remove it and find authentic (not fantasy) love.
Not saying that this is how it goes down with Andi... but her journey definitely resonates for me.

Beautiful point, Sue St. Also not to point to last season, but people said that Des was doing the chasing of Brooks and look how that turned out.

isittrue wrote:

SueSt wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:





Alanna, you bring up a great point.  Andi was chasing Josh.  Big clue.    

I agree; Andi is chasing Josh.  
I can only relate this to my own life... where I was chasing lots of guys that were not the right fit... and then I met my husband and he pursued me.
It was SUCH a change in my 'love' dynamic, that it took me off guard.. and was very hard to adjust to actually, but at the end of the day, when I was finally willing to open my heart to someone being good to me, it was life changing.  I felt loved and cherished in a way that surpassed my dreams.  The barrier was in me and with the right person I was able to remove it and find authentic (not fantasy) love.
Not saying that this is how it goes down with Andi... but her journey definitely resonates for me.

Beautiful point, Sue St.  Also not to point to last season, but people said that Des was doing the chasing of Brooks and look how that turned out.  

right on isittrue!!  

SueSt wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:

Alanna wrote:
This is actually a great point. Josh has been nothing but confident and chill all season, letting Andi come to him and created a situation where she gave pis that she needs to feel that Josh's feeling for other girls pale in comparison to what he feels for her. What other girls???? She's THE girl! And Nick is the one who is being nuts and acting a little nuts.

Alanna, you bring up a great point.  Andi was chasing Josh.  Big clue.    

I agree; Andi is chasing Josh.  
I can only relate this to my own life... where I was chasing lots of guys that were not the right fit... and then I met my husband and he pursued me.
It was SUCH a change in my 'love' dynamic, that it took me off guard.. and was very hard to adjust to actually, but at the end of the day, when I was finally willing to open my heart to someone being good to me, it was life changing.  I felt loved and cherished in a way that surpassed my dreams.  The barrier was in me and with the right person I was able to remove it and find authentic (not fantasy) love.
Not saying that this is how it goes down with Andi... but her journey definitely resonates for me.

I understand where you're coming from but we have already seen Josh start to give her what she needs from him. If he hadn't done that like Brooks, this season would have been TeamSalty all the way. But Josh did want her and that's why we got the outcome we got IMO.

to answer you Janeh ... just my interpretation:
Andi throughout the season is saying very important things to Nick, important in sense of building a relationship and projecting a future together and whether she said to him or showed it/made intended they were very in-sync. They really are very much in-sync, which doesn't happen often, meeting people like that. To me that's one reason, why Nick really got convinced that they "are meant to be" (how ironic for him). Then she changes her mind at the end (in his mind) ... she goes for other guys ... sure he thinks that in her mind their relationship was too hard to handle. I think he meant throughout the season - which is also one option I consider, that she was in love with the feeling of being with him and not him as a person and since it's easily to confuse that, she was indecisive till the end, so he questions everything she said before and everything they felt. If the theory of option of her actually falling in love with Nick is developed ... then is totally another speech.

Thanks for the explanation. That helps.  Do you think Andi might have had a sort of meltdown when rejecting Nick?