Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not?

JBF wrote:Actually I didn't question his spoiler at all UNTIL that silly video. I have some problems with it, but not getting into a big discussion here. Yeah, we are all free here to accept it or reject it as "proof". I just find it inconclusive... like many UFO photographs. The whole thing seems rather fishy to me, but that is just my "vibe". I guess I would have preferred if Nick specifically state "Josh and Andi" a few times, rather than just a "Josh won't say s**t" and do what ever "she" says (she possibly being Andi... or Amy... or Cassie or...?). We also don't see his face all that much for "expression identification" or hear the questions being asked on the phone.

We are never certain when "proof" is proof until after the show ends anyway. One piece of "proof" I shouldn't have pooh-poohed last season, for example, was Juan saying on his seasonal promo that he "saw my daughter's future" during a screencap of him with Nikki horseback riding. So all of that daddy DVD and "wife/husband" talk with others (especially F2) really didn't matter in the end. (They might marry some day, just not anytime soon... and no ring now.)

Aunties_Love wrote:From what accounts....RS?  I don't think we have sleuthed out whether Josh is F1 or not, and objectively looking at it, I don't think we can absolutely say that Josh is F1 yet.  If there is the absolute proof here, I have missed it for sure.

The ONLY way to maintain your sanity is to operate on an attitude of maybe a spoiler is right, maybe a spoiler is wrong (Steve is not Nostradamus)... maybe Person A is "F1 material", maybe Person B is... maybe A is future Bachelor material, maybe B is... maybe the lead is genuine, maybe he/she just wants a few months "showmance"... maybe Mike Fleiss likes this season, maybe he just wants to get it over with...

We have a lot of fun here discussing about What Makes A Final One Different Than A Final Two in terms of body language, pecking order in rose ceremonies and whatever, comparisons to past "winners", etc... and every PAST season is viewed with the 20/20 hindsight vision you clearly did NOT have when a show is unfolding (like now) and you had no clue what the end result would be regardless how much it "seemed" at the time.

Right now I am just trying to concoct some sort of storyline for each frontrunner... case scenario of Josh as F1, Chris as F1... maybe once we learn more about him, Marcus as some sort of darkhouse didn't-see-that-coming winner. The only guy who seems like NEITHER Andi's man or next lead is Nick, since the editors are having much-too-much fun trashing him. The moment he is accused of having a "target on his back", the cameraman shows him from the back. That was nasty! And hilarious.

I like Josh with Andi... and they do look like a "couple". I am just not sure what kind yet. All of that sushi and I'll-throw-YOU-in-the-pool talk makes me think they are brother and sister. I hate to keep bringing up Trista's season... but, heck, we can't avoid taking trips down memory lane each season and... who knows?... maybe something-something there has value. (Or not... just like "proof".) Of all the recent contestants on the Bachelorette, he reminds me the most of her F2 Charlie Maher. It is all there: Trista crooning on and on that Charlie is her type. He was last out of the limos and Trista admired his behind as he entered the mansion. Charlie escorted Trista (taking the lead) at Meet & Greet and (I think... have to re-watch on old VHS) talked about mom. (She was one talkative lady on hometown.) Charlie was also fussing about "sharing" Trista on a 1 on 1 date discussion and was concerned about another contestant, Russ (F3). Not sure if Josh has issues with other guys yet, but the promo hints he isn't 100% happy about "sharing". (Not that it rules him out from the running, since some F1s are the same way.) Because He Had That Look, Trista's buddies (who came to grill the guys) stopped the world from turning the moment Charlie was on screen. They pushed Charlie in our faces episode after episode and a "spoiler" was even circulated that she was caught speeding by California cops with Charlie in her car. She did say in an interview a few days later that it wasn't true, but it was thought as "proof" at the time.

Off topic: There was some interesting name business going on in that first episode. We had two Joshes, two Nicks, a Marquel and a Marcus... and Chris Bukowski being rejected at the door on account there were already two of them, Harrison included.

JBF wrote:
Do you think Andi may only want a showmance?

JBF wrote:Just so I understand you. Do you think Andi may only want a showmance?

I am trying trying to keep an open mind with all possibilities.

jen689 wrote:

JBF wrote:
Do you think Andi may only want a showmance?

I've watched/read several interviews where Andi says she's looking for a husband. I think she's serious about finding what she calls "great love"

brittany4400 wrote:

JBF wrote:Just so I understand you. Do you think Andi may only want a showmance?

I am trying trying to keep an open mind with all possibilities.

Personally, I do. There is too much about this season that seems phony! As always, IMO.

nutty1 wrote:I think I can be objective here, as at this point, I have no favorites what so ever.

You have to look at the questions….Chris's question asked "What does your ideal mate look like?" That is why he gave "superficial" answers. The question Nick was asked was "What is your ideal mate's personality like?" You cannot compare the two….it's apples and oranges.

JBF wrote:Hey! I love the cynicism. I didn't even want her as Bachelorette. Yet... in an oddball way... she is warming me a little. Just a little. Not sure why.

Oh well... back to my voice-over examinations of the promo. Still trying to fill in my blanks.

SLA44 wrote:Don't they all say that?  I think it is part of their script.  

jen689 wrote:

nutty1 wrote:I think I can be objective here, as at this point, I have no favorites what so ever.

You have to look at the questions….Chris's question asked "What does your ideal mate look like?" That is why he gave "superficial" answers. The question Nick was asked was "What is your ideal mate's personality like?" You cannot compare the two….it's apples and oranges.

You're right!  I wasn't objective since I'm a Nick fan    
It would be a fair comparison if they both answered the same questions  

notarose wrote:I think I was distracted by the date fear answers.