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Post by Kashathediva Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:24 pm

Please continue the Edit-Storyline Spoiler discussion here!  Smiley



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Post by Kashathediva Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:27 pm

Per Nutty's last post on the 1st Edit/Storyline thread: 

ThankMeLater wrote:The difference between this season and the Brooks mess is that there is actually proof(video and pic) that makes Josh as F1  legit. While in Des's season it was just confirmation through mouth.

What picture?



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Post by atem Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:28 pm

nutty I think the poster meant the picture of Josh coming home from DR.


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Post by pander3575 Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:38 pm

Was there a picture of him coming home fromDR? I know about the one from Cancun.
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Post by nd4reality Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:42 pm

pander3575 wrote:Was there a picture of him coming home  fromDR?  I know about the one from Cancun.

Yes. Another gem that conveniently dropped into the lap of RS this season. A picture of Josh at an airport which he (RS) claimed was from the 12th of May from the DR airport. Of course we have to believe what he says. :yes: 


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Post by JBF Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:45 pm

I have the feeling this season will NOT follow the cookie cutter pattern everybody expects. This is why Reality Steve got his "evidence" quickly. Photos at airports and videos are not concrete proof of anything, BUT... if you are programmed to think of ONLY one specific outcome that you are used to, then you can easily be fooled. There is little doubt in my mind that Fleiss purposely put it in Steve's lap this season for the simple fact that something VERY unusual happens.

As Chris in the abc.com extra asked JJ: "What's the alternative?" We may have to think alternatively out-side the box.
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:44 pm

I wasn't even aware of the picture of Josh at the airport, coming home from the DR... I find this all so bizarre. How many people would know who Josh is at an airport and that he was filming the Bachelorette to have taken a picture of him before he show has even aired?

The same for Nick's video..how extraordinary for someone to be sitting behind Nick on a plane that knows he was on the show and would think to video his conversation... prior to it even airing on television? And to send all this info right in the hands of RS? I could understand maybe if the show was already mid season, but before it even starts? That's pretty incredible...talk about Easter Eggs!

Am I missing anything else that's out there? giggling 

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Post by bleuberry Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:57 pm

Max64 wrote:I wasn't even aware of the picture of Josh at the airport, coming home from the DR...  I find this all so bizarre.  How many people would know who Josh is at an airport and that he was filming the Bachelorette to have taken a picture of him before he show has even aired?  

The same for Nick's video..how extraordinary for someone to be sitting behind Nick on a plane that knows he was on the show and would think to video his conversation... prior to it even airing on television?  And to send all this info right in the hands of RS?  I could understand maybe if the show was already mid season, but before it even starts?  That's pretty incredible...talk about Easter Eggs!

Am I missing anything else that's out there? giggling 

YES, YES, YES!!! Don't forget pictures from the front door step of a hometown date. I can't stop thinking of this. And if you remember the angles of some of the photos, both Nick and Josh would've been able to see the person taking photos, but both were looking away. So, so suspicious...

Heck I read this site daily and still probably wouldn't have managed all that, in the hectic environment of an airport with my own luggage and stuff to sort out.


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Post by JBF Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:01 pm

Here is something for nd4reality, but anybody else can chip in. I know how you like to analyze "how much" exposure each contestant gets in the seasonal promos. Feel free to correct me where I am wrong here.

OK... THIS season, we have ONE shot of Chris with her in Iowa. No shots past hometowns... am I right? I am going by the promos, not photos on HIS site.

Last season... Juan (pre-mid season promos)
1.) Nikki horseback fantasy date
2.) lots of Clare on fantasy date, LCD, peek-a-boo hometown shouting at her sister
3.) no Andi past New Zealand

Des promos... the "reverse" of Juan
1.) tons of Chris in fantasy dates
2.) one key shot of Drew in Antigua that confirmed Reality Steve goofed
3.) no recognizable Brooks apart from "blue shirt boy"

Sean's promo resembled Des, but the shots were less conspicuous
1.) a couple of Catherine fantasy date scenes that were easy to sleuth despite her face hidden
2.) silhouetted Lindsay... and her voice
3.) all AshLee beach scenes were pre-hometowns (like Andi and Brooks apart from his "blue shirt" shot)
4.) Des got her hometown "boyfriend" scene emphasized

Emily's promo
... no shots of hometowns and afterward until mid-season

Ben's promo
1.) Courtney's dress was shown in FRC, but plenty of visible Courtney in helicopter at LCD
2.) Lindzi speaking on LCD
3.) Nikki on lots of fantasy date footage in Switzerland

Ashley's promo
1.) JP discusses Fiji on the soundtrack so you knew he made it there
2-3.) No shots of Ben or Constantine past Taiwan though as if both eliminated before hometowns
6.) "Boomerang Boy" Ryan Park was also discussing Fiji like JP... and shown with Ashley there

Brad's promo... I'm a little rusty here, going by memory
1.) fleeting shots of Emily on FD
2.) Chantal in FD
3.) Ashley voice-overs suggesting she made it far

Ali's promo... again, I'm rusty a bit
1.) Roberto on FD... lots of Roberto like Chris in Des' season
2.) Chris barely visible on LCD
3.) Ali and Frank crying, but hard to pinpoint FD

Jake's promo... a little rusty
1.) Vienna was crying in a late season scenes
2.) Tenley had a FD shot
3.) no Gia hometowns or later

Jillian's promo
-no FD footage, but F3 Reid in Philadelphia. Filming was not finished in Hawaii though.

Jason's promo
-all of his top three were shown post-hometown.

Conclusion: apart from Jillian's (too soon) and Emily's (all footage saved for mid-season promos), the editors always "slipped in" a shot of the lead with F1 post-hometowns.
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:33 pm

So JBF, may I ask what you are implying with this??

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Post by Beagle Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:41 pm

Max64 wrote:I wasn't even aware of the picture of Josh at the airport, coming home from the DR...  I find this all so bizarre.  How many people would know who Josh is at an airport and that he was filming the Bachelorette to have taken a picture of him before he show has even aired?  

The same for Nick's video..how extraordinary for someone to be sitting behind Nick on a plane that knows he was on the show and would think to video his conversation... prior to it even airing on television?  And to send all this info right in the hands of RS?  I could understand maybe if the show was already mid season, but before it even starts?  That's pretty incredible...talk about Easter Eggs!

Am I missing anything else that's out there? giggling 

Do you know about Josh and Andi snapchatting each other? RS got pics of that account too.
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Post by JBF Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:45 pm

Max64 wrote:So JBF, may I ask what you are implying with this??

JBF wrote:Conclusion: apart from Jillian's (too soon) and Emily's (all footage saved for mid-season promos), the editors always "slipped in" a shot of the lead with F1 post-hometowns.

... or, rather, hometowns or afterward

Chris is the only one with a hometown screencap. Not going by "snapshots" or RS postings.
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