Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not? part 2

Max64 wrote:I'm trying really hard to just "shelve" all the spoilers and look at whats in front of me.  From seasons of late, given the typical "structure" of the show, (dates placements etc) I would say Josh is her f1, given he had his first date in ep 5 and that seems to be the norm now.  But what I see on screen is different, for me she has too much conflict with Josh and Nick, it's seems as if half of their time together is smoothing over disagreements, that doesn't scream f1 to me.  From what we have seen Andi has great chemistry with Marcus, Josh, and Nick.  If I were watching unspoiled, I might think Marcus was her f1 given the ease of their relationship in comparison to Josh and Nick.  
Chris is throwing me off and his edit is most intriguing to me.  Granted he hasn't had much screen time with Andi, but he's actually had a lot of face time.  Maybe that's just to promote him as the next lead, but the "words/phrases" that are said over his camera shots are staggering!   Also Andi's comments about Chris always being there to swoop in and make her feel better is very reminiscent of many Ette's past.  This has been a really strange season, with all the supposed leaks, spoilers, etc.  but I can't and won't discount anyone as f1 until we have SC's to prove otherwise.  

SueSt wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

albean99 wrote:

ITA about Nick.  That's such a wonderful cause. :Nod: 

Since this is the edit thread it's fair to discuss how the edit has influenced our opinions about the guys and Andi. Right now they're trying to make us suspicious about Nick & his intentions and it's obviously working with a lot of viewers. They're also hitting us over the head with the front runner tag. I'm wondering if they'll soften his edit by the HTDs and if it will make a difference. Josh is getting a mixed edit. Definitely showing some chemistry but also conflict with him objecting to the lie detector test. I don't know if it's exactly edit but his gushing & being flustered early on triggered a red flag for me because he seems too smooth for that.

Jillian didn't seem to like either Nick or Josh in her blog and she thought Josh would be leaving without a rose.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if she knows something??

I LOVE Jillian but the media world is a very strange place.  I was actually surprised by her blog... and sorry to be so skeptical, but I wondered if she was being paid to voice an opinion to throw us off the track.  

Max64 wrote:I'm trying really hard to just "shelve" all the spoilers and look at whats in front of me.  From seasons of late, given the typical "structure" of the show, (dates placements etc) I would say Josh is her f1, given he had his first date in ep 5 and that seems to be the norm now.  But what I see on screen is different, for me she has too much conflict with Josh and Nick, it's seems as if half of their time together is smoothing over disagreements, that doesn't scream f1 to me.  From what we have seen Andi has great chemistry with Marcus, Josh, and Nick.  If I were watching unspoiled, I might think Marcus was her f1 given the ease of their relationship in comparison to Josh and Nick.  
Chris is throwing me off and his edit is most intriguing to me.  Granted he hasn't had much screen time with Andi, but he's actually had a lot of face time.  Maybe that's just to promote him as the next lead, but the "words/phrases" that are said over his camera shots are staggering!   Also Andi's comments about Chris always being there to swoop in and make her feel better is very reminiscent of many Ette's past.  This has been a really strange season, with all the supposed leaks, spoilers, etc.  but I can't and won't discount anyone as f1 until we have SC's to prove otherwise.  

Aunties_Love wrote:

sophienette wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:....

Very true! He did say, he hasn't had the time. Also, just read that both parents had cancer, and with him being the oldest of a tight family, I can see how his focus would be on that.

Wonder why he hasnt mentionned this to Andi in between fits of trust issues... or has he?   :hidingchair :halo: 

Wouldn't this be the kind of discussion he should/would of gotten into during his individual date with her?  Mind you, he should of/could of brought it up in any of the time he's spent with her...to me that is really weird that he hasn't.

Max64 wrote:I'm trying really hard to just "shelve" all the spoilers and look at whats in front of me.  From seasons of late, given the typical "structure" of the show, (dates placements etc) I would say Josh is her f1, given he had his first date in ep 5 and that seems to be the norm now.  But what I see on screen is different, for me she has too much conflict with Josh and Nick, it's seems as if half of their time together is smoothing over disagreements, that doesn't scream f1 to me.  From what we have seen Andi has great chemistry with Marcus, Josh, and Nick.  If I were watching unspoiled, I might think Marcus was her f1 given the ease of their relationship in comparison to Josh and Nick.  
Chris is throwing me off and his edit is most intriguing to me.  Granted he hasn't had much screen time with Andi, but he's actually had a lot of face time.  Maybe that's just to promote him as the next lead, but the "words/phrases" that are said over his camera shots are staggering!   Also Andi's comments about Chris always being there to swoop in and make her feel better is very reminiscent of many Ette's past.  This has been a really strange season, with all the supposed leaks, spoilers, etc.  but I can't and won't discount anyone as f1 until we have SC's to prove otherwise.  

2observe wrote:

Max64 wrote:I'm trying really hard to just "shelve" all the spoilers and look at whats in front of me.  From seasons of late, given the typical "structure" of the show, (dates placements etc) I would say Josh is her f1, given he had his first date in ep 5 and that seems to be the norm now.  But what I see on screen is different, for me she has too much conflict with Josh and Nick, it's seems as if half of their time together is smoothing over disagreements, that doesn't scream f1 to me.  From what we have seen Andi has great chemistry with Marcus, Josh, and Nick.  If I were watching unspoiled, I might think Marcus was her f1 given the ease of their relationship in comparison to Josh and Nick.  
Chris is throwing me off and his edit is most intriguing to me.  Granted he hasn't had much screen time with Andi, but he's actually had a lot of face time.  Maybe that's just to promote him as the next lead, but the "words/phrases" that are said over his camera shots are staggering!   Also Andi's comments about Chris always being there to swoop in and make her feel better is very reminiscent of many Ette's past.  This has been a really strange season, with all the supposed leaks, spoilers, etc.  but I can't and won't discount anyone as f1 until we have SC's to prove otherwise.  

Maybe, just maybe Chris' edit is the one that will change if Marcus is out at F4.  It just seems like Chris is waiting for something to happen to take him out of the "friend" zone.   Because we are all trying to figure out how will Chris get to F3 with the lack of interaction with Andi.  I can only see Chris moving up the ladder, so to speak, if Marcus leaves.  

JBF wrote:As much as I like Marcus and can understand why so many view him as F1-ish in edit, I still tend to get rather sleepy watching him with Andi. When not "tongue tied" in their kissing, they often talk like they are ready to go night-night. I wonder if Marcus frequently gets her right after her sit-down with "out of focus" and "edited out" Chris... who insisted in his "Meet Chris S." intro that Andi is a 10 in looks and a 10 in every thing else. Being a 10 in everything else may make her kinda exhausted at times.  

Max64 wrote:

2observe wrote:

Max64 wrote:I'm trying really hard to just "shelve" all the spoilers and look at whats in front of me.  From seasons of late, given the typical "structure" of the show, (dates placements etc) I would say Josh is her f1, given he had his first date in ep 5 and that seems to be the norm now.  But what I see on screen is different, for me she has too much conflict with Josh and Nick, it's seems as if half of their time together is smoothing over disagreements, that doesn't scream f1 to me.  From what we have seen Andi has great chemistry with Marcus, Josh, and Nick.  If I were watching unspoiled, I might think Marcus was her f1 given the ease of their relationship in comparison to Josh and Nick.  
Chris is throwing me off and his edit is most intriguing to me.  Granted he hasn't had much screen time with Andi, but he's actually had a lot of face time.  Maybe that's just to promote him as the next lead, but the "words/phrases" that are said over his camera shots are staggering!   Also Andi's comments about Chris always being there to swoop in and make her feel better is very reminiscent of many Ette's past.  This has been a really strange season, with all the supposed leaks, spoilers, etc.  but I can't and won't discount anyone as f1 until we have SC's to prove otherwise.  

Maybe, just maybe Chris' edit is the one that will change if Marcus is out at F4.  It just seems like Chris is waiting for something to happen to take him out of the "friend" zone.   Because we are all trying to figure out how will Chris get to F3 with the lack of interaction with Andi.  I can only see Chris moving up the ladder, so to speak, if Marcus leaves.  

I agree something has to change in Chris' edit to bump him over Marcus (from an edit/time standpoint).   But what puzzles me is if Marcus is f4, and they are prepping Chris as the next lead, why not show him more and downplay Marcus?  I think this week will explain a lot.. at least I hope!   

2observe wrote: That has been my issue with Marcus leaving F4 also.  Every time that we think that Marcus' edit will nose dive, it doesn't.  But yet, he is suppose to be out at F4, while Chris has the least amount of interaction with Andi yet he becomes F3.  It doesn't jive with the edits. So, I'm just waiting to see if Marcus really leaves at F4.  It also occurred to me that Nick (the villian) could be out at F4.