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Post by Guest Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:36 am

Nativenewyorker wrote:
kdubs_ca wrote:
draven31 wrote:This reminds me of the Arie fans coming up with every excuse that the spoiler was wrong then as well. I hope we dont have a repeat of the board meltdown.. affraid :hidingchair 

Eh, I think we're safe. Whoever the F1 is at least he's not an insufferable clown with stupid hair, spouting greeting card platitudes and using his "charitable" company to pick up college chicks. All the guys seem pretty great, so I think there's a good chance that we'll understand where she's coming from with her choice. And that will go a long way towards board harmony. Although I'm all for her pulling a Kelly Taylor, "I choose me" ending.

Just as an aside, as someone who established permanent residency in the Arie boards, we called ourselves Team Tinfoil because we were pretty sure that the spoilers were right. For me, I just couldn't understand it. One of the F2 literally turned my stomach, the other literally melted my butter (well not LITERALLY). But thanks for bringing back the happy memories (of the butter melting.)


I'm really glad you responded to that comment. As though Arie fans were solely responsible for the board meltdown! If I do recall, there were some Jef fans who thought this was the love story of the century and anyone who didn't see it had to be as evil as the devil himself!  :yes: 

I did believe the spoilers in that season. I also decided that I didn't want Arie with Emily. I thought that Jef and Emily deserved each other.  Some Arie fans wanted to believe that the spoilers were wrong and some wanted them to be right because they wanted Arie far away from Emily!

As far as what happened on this forum at that time, there is plenty of blame to go around!   Hugesmile 


Great posts, Kdubs and NN ! yes

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:41 am

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Tiggerlgh wrote:
Piper61 wrote:Only having been on this site since Emily's season, from reading the posts, I definitely have missed a lot of the super sleuthing days of old. I can see why everyone is missing those days of being able to analyze so much.

I miss it as well, but they stopped giving us the screencaps to slueth

SC analysis was great but so was Edit analysis  and the various opinions on Body language. Folks used to pick their horses and then bet on them till the end.
But the confirmed spoilers have made much of that either redundant. And worse if there are observations make against the spoiler those are brushed aside quickly and consistently.

Why bother even coming on these boards to discuss and review when sleuthing and speculating (which is what this board ought to be about) is not enabled.

If JP is the next Bachelor I may stay on the unspoiled side - hopefully Love_Me and San will post all the same SCs that they provide to the spoiled side and make it fun there. Not a fan of the spoiled F1 just because.



I'm with you, nd4reality ! :yes:

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Post by kdubs_ca Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:41 am

Chacharo wrote:Speaking of meltdowns, check this one out.  She could probably use some tinfoil!  Might help with that headache she gave herself.  Hugesmile  


IT WAS VERY EMOTIONAL FOR ME. OK?  And if I knew my son's girlfriend was going to video tape me with her iPhone and post it on YouTube (in a screwed up aspect ratio none the less (doesn't she know I look better horizontal)), I never would have invited her over to watch with me. Even the DOG wouldn't comfort me.

Nah. That totally couldn't be me... I'm not blonde.

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Post by nd4reality Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:45 am

sde1041 wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
Tiggerlgh wrote:
Piper61 wrote:Only having been on this site since Emily's season, from reading the posts, I definitely have missed a lot of the super sleuthing days of old. I can see why everyone is missing those days of being able to analyze so much.

I miss it as well, but they stopped giving us the screencaps to slueth

SC analysis was great but so was Edit analysis  and the various opinions on Body language. Folks used to pick their horses and then bet on them till the end.
But the confirmed spoilers have made much of that either redundant. And worse if there are observations make against the spoiler those are brushed aside quickly and consistently.

Why bother even coming on these boards to discuss and review when sleuthing and speculating (which is what this board ought to be about) is not enabled.

If JP is the next Bachelor I may stay on the unspoiled side - hopefully Love_Me and San will post all the same SCs that they provide to the spoiled side and make it fun there. Not a fan of the spoiled F1 just because.



I'm with you, nd4reality ! :yes:

Good - hope to see you on the unspoiled section next season :yes: 


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Post by draven31 Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:56 am

Nativenewyorker wrote:
kdubs_ca wrote:
draven31 wrote:This reminds me of the Arie fans coming up with every excuse that the spoiler was wrong then as well. I hope we dont have a repeat of the board meltdown.. affraid :hidingchair 

Eh, I think we're safe. Whoever the F1 is at least he's not an insufferable clown with stupid hair, spouting greeting card platitudes and using his "charitable" company to pick up college chicks. All the guys seem pretty great, so I think there's a good chance that we'll understand where she's coming from with her choice. And that will go a long way towards board harmony. Although I'm all for her pulling a Kelly Taylor, "I choose me" ending.

Just as an aside, as someone who established permanent residency in the Arie boards, we called ourselves Team Tinfoil because we were pretty sure that the spoilers were right. For me, I just couldn't understand it. One of the F2 literally turned my stomach, the other literally melted my butter (well not LITERALLY). But thanks for bringing back the happy memories (of the butter melting.)

I'm really glad you responded to that comment. As though Arie fans were solely responsible for the board meltdown! If I do recall, there were some Jef fans who thought this was the love story of the century and anyone who didn't see it had to be as evil as the devil himself!  :yes: 

I did believe the spoilers in that season. I also decided that I didn't want Arie with Emily. I thought that Jef and Emily deserved each other.  Some Arie fans wanted to believe that the spoilers were wrong and some wanted them to be right because they wanted Arie far away from Emily!

As far as what happened on this forum at that time, there is plenty of blame to go around!   Hugesmile 


I agree. I should a stayed out of it more (Emily's season). I take full responsibility. But to be clear I was not blaming Arie fans for the meltdown just comparing what was going on with the board then. I remember hearing the spoilers were wrong. The skirt Emily wore at one point was a secret shout out to Arie's Mom. I've blocked out the rest. It seems there is a little of that going on now, thanks to the lack of screencaps.

I've enjoyed the board , for the most part this season. Really really hope that it stays that way.


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Post by Dr_Hottie Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:18 am

kdubs_ca wrote:
draven31 wrote:This reminds me of the Arie fans coming up with every excuse that the spoiler was wrong then as well. I hope we dont have a repeat of the board meltdown.. affraid :hidingchair 

Eh, I think we're safe. Whoever the F1 is at least he's not an insufferable clown with stupid hair, spouting greeting card platitudes and using his "charitable" company to pick up college chicks. All the guys seem pretty great, so I think there's a good chance that we'll understand where she's coming from with her choice. And that will go a long way towards board harmony. Although I'm all for her pulling a Kelly Taylor, "I choose me" ending.

Just as an aside, as someone who established permanent residency in the Arie boards, we called ourselves Team Tinfoil because we were pretty sure that the spoilers were right. For me, I just couldn't understand it. One of the F2 literally turned my stomach, the other literally melted my butter (well not LITERALLY). But thanks for bringing back the happy memories (of the butter melting.)

I would also add that we knew we would be vindicated in the end, and that the happy couple would last about as long as a bottle of laundry detergent. I think we were quite restrained when the inevitable bust up happened and no one broke out our tinfoil chorus line or used our tinfoil jazz hands.


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Post by Aunties_Love Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:47 am

nd4reality wrote:
Tiggerlgh wrote:
Piper61 wrote:Only having been on this site since Emily's season, from reading the posts, I definitely have missed a lot of the super sleuthing days of old. I can see why everyone is missing those days of being able to analyze so much.

I miss it as well, but they stopped giving us the screencaps to slueth

SC analysis was great but so was Edit analysis  and the various opinions on Body language. Folks used to pick their horses and then bet on them till the end.
But the confirmed spoilers have made much of that either redundant. And worse if there are observations make against the spoiler those are brushed aside quickly and consistently.

Why bother even coming on these boards to discuss and review when sleuthing and speculating (which is what this board ought to be about) is not enabled.

If JP is the next Bachelor I may stay on the unspoiled side - hopefully Love_Me and San will post all the same SCs that they provide to the spoiled side and make it fun there. Not a fan of the spoiled F1 just because.


I agree with the bolded. It is hard to discuss sleuthing when spoilers take the control out of it. I wish we could go back to the old days in a way when Sleuthing was the way to find things. I wonder if this could be done here. Keep all spoiler talk on one thread/s and the sleuthing on another. That way, you can sleuth things out without all the problems of the spoilers getting in the way. This is for BOTH sides of the coin. The spoiled ones can be solid in their thoughts of who is spoiled and the sleuthing/sleuthers can be on the sleuthing thread/s and that is what happens there versus the spoilers getting mixed in. Wonder if something like that could be set up easily enough????


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Post by Nativenewyorker Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:55 am

draven31 wrote:
Nativenewyorker wrote:
kdubs_ca wrote:
draven31 wrote:This reminds me of the Arie fans coming up with every excuse that the spoiler was wrong then as well. I hope we dont have a repeat of the board meltdown.. affraid :hidingchair 

Eh, I think we're safe. Whoever the F1 is at least he's not an insufferable clown with stupid hair, spouting greeting card platitudes and using his "charitable" company to pick up college chicks. All the guys seem pretty great, so I think there's a good chance that we'll understand where she's coming from with her choice. And that will go a long way towards board harmony. Although I'm all for her pulling a Kelly Taylor, "I choose me" ending.

Just as an aside, as someone who established permanent residency in the Arie boards, we called ourselves Team Tinfoil because we were pretty sure that the spoilers were right. For me, I just couldn't understand it. One of the F2 literally turned my stomach, the other literally melted my butter (well not LITERALLY). But thanks for bringing back the happy memories (of the butter melting.)

I'm really glad you responded to that comment. As though Arie fans were solely responsible for the board meltdown! If I do recall, there were some Jef fans who thought this was the love story of the century and anyone who didn't see it had to be as evil as the devil himself!  :yes: 

I did believe the spoilers in that season. I also decided that I didn't want Arie with Emily. I thought that Jef and Emily deserved each other.  Some Arie fans wanted to believe that the spoilers were wrong and some wanted them to be right because they wanted Arie far away from Emily!

As far as what happened on this forum at that time, there is plenty of blame to go around!   Hugesmile 


I agree. I should a stayed out of it more (Emily's season). I take full responsibility. But to be clear I was not blaming Arie fans for the meltdown just comparing what was going on with the board then. I remember hearing the spoilers were wrong. The skirt Emily wore at one point was a secret shout out to Arie's Mom. I've blocked out the rest. It seems there is a little of that going on now, thanks to the lack of screencaps.

I've enjoyed the board , for the most part this season. Really really hope that it stays that way.



I really appreciate your sentiments. I think a lot of us learned something from that craziness! I do think that the reason there are these alternate scenarios and theories does have a lot to do with the lack of SC's and any other evidence. We usually have something concrete to support the spoiler info. This season they seem to have everything locked down tight.

I agree with the bolded. It's been much better overall. I am going to have faith that whatever happens tomorrow night, we will all take it in stride and keep things in perspective. It is a tv show after all. :Smiley: 
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Post by draven31 Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:08 am

Nativenewyorker wrote:
draven31 wrote:
Nativenewyorker wrote:
kdubs_ca wrote:
draven31 wrote:This reminds me of the Arie fans coming up with every excuse that the spoiler was wrong then as well. I hope we dont have a repeat of the board meltdown.. affraid :hidingchair 

Eh, I think we're safe. Whoever the F1 is at least he's not an insufferable clown with stupid hair, spouting greeting card platitudes and using his "charitable" company to pick up college chicks. All the guys seem pretty great, so I think there's a good chance that we'll understand where she's coming from with her choice. And that will go a long way towards board harmony. Although I'm all for her pulling a Kelly Taylor, "I choose me" ending.

Just as an aside, as someone who established permanent residency in the Arie boards, we called ourselves Team Tinfoil because we were pretty sure that the spoilers were right. For me, I just couldn't understand it. One of the F2 literally turned my stomach, the other literally melted my butter (well not LITERALLY). But thanks for bringing back the happy memories (of the butter melting.)

I'm really glad you responded to that comment. As though Arie fans were solely responsible for the board meltdown! If I do recall, there were some Jef fans who thought this was the love story of the century and anyone who didn't see it had to be as evil as the devil himself!  :yes: 

I did believe the spoilers in that season. I also decided that I didn't want Arie with Emily. I thought that Jef and Emily deserved each other.  Some Arie fans wanted to believe that the spoilers were wrong and some wanted them to be right because they wanted Arie far away from Emily!

As far as what happened on this forum at that time, there is plenty of blame to go around!   Hugesmile 


I agree. I should a stayed out of it more (Emily's season). I take full responsibility. But to be clear I was not blaming Arie fans for the meltdown just comparing what was going on with the board then. I remember hearing the spoilers were wrong. The skirt Emily wore at one point was a secret shout out to Arie's Mom. I've blocked out the rest. It seems there is a little of that going on now, thanks to the lack of screencaps.

I've enjoyed the board , for the most part this season. Really really hope that it stays that way.



I really appreciate your sentiments. I think a lot of us learned something from that craziness!  I do think that the reason there are these alternate scenarios and theories does have a lot to do with the lack of SC's and any other evidence. We usually have something concrete to support the spoiler info. This season they seem to have everything locked down tight.

I agree with the bolded. It's been much better overall. I am going to have faith that whatever happens tomorrow night, we will all take it in stride and keep things in perspective. It is a tv show after all.  :Smiley: 

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BTW I wanted to use the peace smiley but felt it would be inappropriate... Hugesmile 


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Post by sparkler Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:50 am

draven31 wrote:
Goldie2 wrote:
rosesrREd wrote:
treschicas wrote:Ariela....the 5 sources could be wrong if they are all from the same source, or if some are made up. or if the each source has a single source telling them the wrong thing.

I agree.  Those 5 people who have confirmed their source has told them so, could be the same source.  I doubt there are different sources for these people who spoil.  They are probably one in the same.

Everyone has their own people they go to for information-
They are not one in the same.
I am very confident in knowing where my information came from or i would not post it ever- nor would the others I'm sure.

This spoiler has been out all season . All sources are doing now is confirming their status -
that they are still together and happy.
Extremely unlikely these independent sources would ALL be wrong - including the mags and RS.
To my knowledge their hasn't been one source that is saying Chris or Drew are F1.



Just as an aside, if it hasn't been written yet (I'm behind in my reading here)....RS ONLY changed his spoiler that Emily was the F1 during Brad 2.0  because Blondiegal, on this board, confirmed it first. THen suddenly, RS changed his rock solid confirmation that it was Chantel.

The reason being is because they aren't - it's Brooks. Not trying to dash anyone's hopes -
just trying to keep it real.


When was the last time the F1 spoiler was wrong.. Brad part 2. The problem was a lot of people saw the connection between Brad and Emily then. I dont remember when RS changed it from Chantel to Emily but it was before the last episode aired. The Chantal fans were pissed and Emily's fans were thrilled.  We also had Brad admit on camera to Emily that he was in love with her.


In this case we have only see Des talk about her love for Brooks. I know she likes Chris but she's not in love with him.  I think it's Brooks or no one. I hope those that doubt the spoilers are right are not overly pissed off that they were wrong.

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Post by misticia Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:03 am

I have a question for Bach experts : are only the F2 allowed to get a Neil Lane ring ? I'm asking this because technicaly Brooks is F3 so how could he get a ring for his proposal ? I'm quite newbie so i'm trying to figure out.

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Post by Goldie2 Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:15 am

Promo this morning- Brooks in it.
" What will happen next?"


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