The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Discussion

LLiza wrote:

Ariela wrote:

draven31 wrote:

Ariela wrote:

Goldie, I'm disappointed....because I totally enjoy analyzing and equal opportunity bashing of the contestants. I do the opposite of what the fangirlies do,  I pick apart their "perceived" issues.

And therein lays the problem.  I've always had a problem with outright bashing.  Now snark on the other hand has always been accepted.

YMMV but I always use the "would I say this to a persons face?" method of snark. I tease my friends , they tease me. I try not to be over the top. Some are uncomfortable with bashing cause we sometimes get family/friends of the cast in here.  Happens every season.  

You call it snark, I call it bashing- semantics.
If you criticize their behavior, fangirls get upset and call you a hater. Some don't have a sense of humor, and start fights.

In analyzing their behavior, I enjoy giving 5 sides to an observation. I don't pick a winner, and I don't get  into fantasy....At the end of the day, it's all good.

Similarly, draven, I watch the show with a "would I put up with this in real life?" stance.  I wouldn't put up with a loser with a supposed girlfriend at home.  I wouldn't put up with some meathead who just wants to be the next bachelor.  I would put up with an uncomfortable 'adjustment' from a guy's chiropractic father if it made my body feel better and if I respected the guy.  I would put up with (and appreciate) guys snarking to me about others who were not 'there for the right reasons'.  I might put up with wimpy guys for a while until I figured out if they were straight or not.  But, I would NOT put up with a guy who told me that he didn't love me, would never love me, and doesn't feel anything for me when we are apart...not even if I thought that I loved him (after a couple weeks - ) and not even if I were desperate to get engaged and he was guilted into returning.

If I wouldn't allow something here in real life, I feel free to state that...and I don't consider that to be bashing nor snarking.

Ariela wrote:"Why are you disappointed ?
Because the show is so produced and manipulated?" by Goldie


Goldie,
Yup, I enjoy picking apart peoples' psyche.
It's one thing if the producers say go talk to her about such and such, but if it's all a big set up, I'm knocking myself up for noting. Ok, I'm playing.

On another note: here many of us discussing how it's ridiculous to propose at the end of this show, and here Goldie is saying that they
have to per contract.

I guess if they sign up for their 15 minutes of fame, and they make believe, then they deserve to get burned, and be bashed by me.

LLiza wrote:

Ariela wrote:

draven31 wrote:

Ariela wrote:

Goldie, I'm disappointed....because I totally enjoy analyzing and equal opportunity bashing of the contestants. I do the opposite of what the fangirlies do,  I pick apart their "perceived" issues.

And therein lays the problem.  I've always had a problem with outright bashing.  Now snark on the other hand has always been accepted.

YMMV but I always use the "would I say this to a persons face?" method of snark. I tease my friends , they tease me. I try not to be over the top. Some are uncomfortable with bashing cause we sometimes get family/friends of the cast in here.  Happens every season.  

You call it snark, I call it bashing- semantics.
If you criticize their behavior, fangirls get upset and call you a hater. Some don't have a sense of humor, and start fights.

In analyzing their behavior, I enjoy giving 5 sides to an observation. I don't pick a winner, and I don't get  into fantasy....At the end of the day, it's all good.

Similarly, draven, I watch the show with a "would I put up with this in real life?" stance.  I wouldn't put up with a loser with a supposed girlfriend at home.  I wouldn't put up with some meathead who just wants to be the next bachelor.  I would put up with an uncomfortable 'adjustment' from a guy's chiropractic father if it made my body feel better and if I respected the guy.  I would put up with (and appreciate) guys snarking to me about others who were not 'there for the right reasons'.  I might put up with wimpy guys for a while until I figured out if they were straight or not.  But, I would NOT put up with a guy who told me that he didn't love me, would never love me, and doesn't feel anything for me when we are apart...not even if I thought that I loved him (after a couple weeks - ) and not even if I were desperate to get engaged and he was guilted into returning.

If I wouldn't allow something here in real life, I feel free to state that...and I don't consider that to be bashing nor snarking.

Ariela wrote:"Why are you disappointed ?
Because the show is so produced and manipulated?" by Goldie


Goldie,
Yup, I enjoy picking apart peoples' psyche.
It's one thing if the producers say go talk to her about such and such, but if it's all a big set up, I'm knocking myself up for noting. Ok, I'm playing.

On another note: here many of us discussing how it's ridiculous to propose at the end of this show, and here Goldie is saying that they
have to per contract.

I guess if they sign up for their 15 minutes of fame, and they make believe, then they deserve to get burned, and be bashed by me.

Kashathediva wrote:

LLiza wrote:

Ariela wrote:

draven31 wrote:

Ariela wrote:

Goldie, I'm disappointed....because I totally enjoy analyzing and equal opportunity bashing of the contestants. I do the opposite of what the fangirlies do,  I pick apart their "perceived" issues.

And therein lays the problem.  I've always had a problem with outright bashing.  Now snark on the other hand has always been accepted.

YMMV but I always use the "would I say this to a persons face?" method of snark. I tease my friends , they tease me. I try not to be over the top. Some are uncomfortable with bashing cause we sometimes get family/friends of the cast in here.  Happens every season.  

You call it snark, I call it bashing- semantics.
If you criticize their behavior, fangirls get upset and call you a hater. Some don't have a sense of humor, and start fights.

In analyzing their behavior, I enjoy giving 5 sides to an observation. I don't pick a winner, and I don't get  into fantasy....At the end of the day, it's all good.

Similarly, draven, I watch the show with a "would I put up with this in real life?" stance.  I wouldn't put up with a loser with a supposed girlfriend at home.  I wouldn't put up with some meathead who just wants to be the next bachelor.  I would put up with an uncomfortable 'adjustment' from a guy's chiropractic father if it made my body feel better and if I respected the guy.  I would put up with (and appreciate) guys snarking to me about others who were not 'there for the right reasons'.  I might put up with wimpy guys for a while until I figured out if they were straight or not.  But, I would NOT put up with a guy who told me that he didn't love me, would never love me, and doesn't feel anything for me when we are apart...not even if I thought that I loved him (after a couple weeks - ) and not even if I were desperate to get engaged and he was guilted into returning.

If I wouldn't allow something here in real life, I feel free to state that...and I don't consider that to be bashing nor snarking.

Agree. I am pretty much call a spade a spade girl myself.

Jeepers wrote:Unless it is brand new .. There is no F3 contract

Jeepers wrote:Unless it is brand new .. There is no F3 contract

Buckeye_Fan wrote:

Jeepers wrote:Unless it is brand new .. There is no F3 contract

You sound like you are in the know.  If the spoilers are right, I was glad to hear about the F3 contract.  It made sense then that Brooks could take so much time to decide he didn't feel enough for Des to continue on, just to turn around and change his mind - possibly because she told him she loved him.  For him to have that big of a change of heart after so much deliberation and for her to take him back to for them to be engaged made no sense.  Just as it made no sense to the Bres fans that Des could turn around and decide to become engaged to one of the "remaining men."

So, what is it?  For those who say there is a F3 contract, how is that known?  Or is it just speculation?

The sad thing is, if it's true and the spoilers are also true, the contract has worked out VERY well for MF.  He finally got the most dramatic finale ever.

draven31 wrote:

Ariela wrote:

Goldie, I'm disappointed....because I totally enjoy analyzing and equal opportunity bashing of the contestants. I do the opposite of what the fangirlies do,  I pick apart their "perceived" issues.

And therein lays the problem.  I've always had a problem with outright bashing.  Now snark on the other hand has always been accepted.

YMMV but I always use the "would I say this to a persons face?" method of snark. I tease my friends , they tease me. I try not to be over the top. Some are uncomfortable with bashing cause we sometimes get family/friends of the cast in here.  Happens every season.  

Piper61 wrote:Is this not a discussion thread? The F1 Spoilers Discussion thread?

Why do we have to classify people as fangirly, haters, realists, sleuthers in these discussions?  Why not just skip over something that you might not agree with and don't feel like discussing if it's going to lead to labeling or on a downward spiral?


We don't share the same opinions all of the time, and we don't view things the same way.  Offering up a different point of view, and standing firm with it is discussing/expressing.  I try to be polite, and if it doesn't come across as polite then I regret that.  But at times it feels like there is a type of bullying that goes on.

In this thread, is discussing the spoilers for F1 and voicing excitement over that not allowed or acceptable discussion?  Is snarking, bashing, and being negative or whatever someone wants to call it the only acceptable forms of expression here?