Re: The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Thread #4

[Goldie2]

 

See, that's what I find so odd.  'Still together and happy'...the exact same line?

atem will kill me before this ends omg i'm laughing so hard right now

  

You guys don't think that's odd that every single one of them say that?  

I hope I'm wrong!

Hi atem-
I want to put you out of your misery on this .:Smiley: 

I reached out to My source and others reached out to THEIRS-
DIFFERENT sources .

No matter how it's said or how similar it sounds it's still has the same meaning
Brooks and Des together - still.
Des and Brooks together and happy.
As of today they are together still.

Brief and to the point-

I hope this helps you!

[Ariela]

For the moment, here are the facts :
- Brooks dumped Des in a harsh way
- CH blogged a not very flattering portrait of Brooks
- Des blogged she didn't know before watching last episode the Brooks conversation with mom and sis
- Drew and Chris will have a LCD
- a FRC set looking more like a funerarium than a wedding chapel. No lead, no contestant pictured in.
Make your own conclusion.

They may be together, but it's a farce. She's probably still seeing love that isn't there. it's best that she let the other 2 go.

Des' tweets say" let him pursue you" and the like, which are contrary to what happened between her and Brooks. She pursued him the entire season...

Maybe CH and Des purposely are saying not such nice things about Brooks to keep us guessing.

She's either alone or with Brooks. I cannot see her allowing herself to fall for Chris or Drew. It's too late. She' a GONNER mentally.
I think there was a lot of merit to LLiza's post upthread- he came back to save face. The break-up was worse than he expected. He knew that he looked and acted like a d---che. He came back, professed love, in a hurry.

I'm thinking CH isn't very kind to Brooks because he is protective of her, and he knows the Brooks does NOT FEEL IT. He is messing with her head until things die down.

[Guest]

For the moment, here are the facts :
- Brooks dumped Des in a harsh way
- CH blogged a not very flattering portrait of Brooks
- Des blogged she didn't know before watching last episode the Brooks conversation with mom and sis
- Drew and Chris will have a LCD
- a FRC set looking more like a funerarium than a wedding chapel. No lead, no contestant pictured in.
Make your own conclusion.

They may be together, but it's a farce. She's probably still seeing love that isn't there. it's best that she let the other 2 go.

Des' tweets say" let him pursue you" and the like, which are contrary to what happened between her and Brooks. She pursued him the entire season...

Maybe CH and Des purposely are saying not such nice things about Brooks to keep us guessing.

She's either alone or with Brooks. I cannot see her allowing herself to fall for Chris or Drew. It's too late. She' a GONNER mentally.
I think there was a lot of merit to LLiza's post upthread- he came back to save face. The break-up was worse than he expected. He knew that he looked and acted like a d---che. He came back, professed love, in a hurry.

I'm thinking CH isn't very kind to Brooks because he is protective of her, and he knows the Brooks does NOT FEEL IT. He is messing with her head until things die down.

Has Deanna ever given any insight into what happens in this situation? They have no ending. Do they all sit down in a meeting and create one? I just saw no good ending after everything Brooks said. Chris and Drew were out, and Brooks coming back so quickly with a complete 180 is far fetched. Maybe if there is no proposal it will be easier to believe.

Has anyone found the clip of Brooks and Nate on the MTP date? It was referred to on twitter, but I can't find it.

[mercieme]

Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

If you watched objectively, you would have seen that Brooks was not all that much into Des. Even CH said so. Most of it was in her head. She was running so fast, she didn't realize that Brooks was crawling behind her. Pun intended ;)

I'll give you my theory on Brooks, but his diehard fans will hate it.

Brooks was sure he wasn't in love with Des. He was hoping she was further along with Drew and Chris so he didn't have to face her love assertiveness (for  a lack of better term) in the FS.
Now he finds out that she was going to choose him. He doesn't need any more time with her. For what? All he has to do is continue this charade, and Des will be ecstatic with a morsel of love. There isn't enough time to fall in love with ANYONE, Des, Chris, Drew, Brooks. He could just crash the party at the end.....WHY,  you ask?

Because as soon as he got into the limo his wheels were turning-HE HAS IT IN THE BAG. All the media, publicity, his life will never be the same. I'll bet James' conversation came in real handy now.

All he has to do is play the game with Des for a few months, and his career, love life etc will go up exponentially. As his fans wrote on this board in stone HE IS A DEEP THNKER". For once, I'll agree with this statement.

I think you may have him confused with 1F.

Very easy mix up, guilty by association of Utah I guess....1F has set the precedence, maybe Brooks will re-write it!!!!!

[Guest]

yeah the fact that everybody has a source all of a sudden is so funny but it may just be a coincidence who knows

How do you figure that everyone has sources is all of a sudden.  We had 4-5 all season.  I think there might be 1 new one lately.  All the others are just confirming that Brooks is F1.

All of the posters with the "source" are longtime posters and have thousands of posts. I am reading through here thinking that Blondiegal (I think that is her name) is the source, and if so, yes she has been reliable- She confirmed Jef, I think it was her who knew about Emily rather than Chantel in the Brad 2.0 season, and confirmed that Sean would be the next bachelor. If that is the case, it is a reliable poster. I am  just guessing, unless she too has been Fleissed- doubt it though. (Maybe she IS Fleiss?? Just kidding)

yes but she had more clues about it being Jef and they were explained (how Jef stayed at the FRC country way longer than Arie and Sean, instagram pics putting Jef at the safehouse, Jef and Em taking flights at similar times) and evidence that Arie was not with Emily by the way he was acting post FRC. And with Brad 2.0 it was obvious he was way into Emily and there was no reason he wouldn't pick her. I just feel like there isn't enough proof it's Brooks or some things don't make sense that he and Des are happily engaged or together after what happened with the dumping and CH comments afterwards. People just keep saying Des is with Brooks and there is not one single detail of how it goes down in Antigua or any clues about the two of them after the FRC.

[dw_a_mom]

Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

If you watched objectively, you would have seen that Brooks was not all that much into Des. Even CH said so. Most of it was in her head. She was running so fast, she didn't realize that Brooks was crawling behind her. Pun intended ;)

I'll give you my theory on Brooks, but his diehard fans will hate it.

Brooks was sure he wasn't in love with Des. He was hoping she was further along with Drew and Chris so he didn't have to face her love assertiveness (for  a lack of better term) in the FS.
Now he finds out that she was going to choose him. He doesn't need any more time with her. For what? All he has to do is continue this charade, and Des will be ecstatic with a morsel of love. There isn't enough time to fall in love with ANYONE, Des, Chris, Drew, Brooks. He could just crash the party at the end.....WHY,  you ask?

Because as soon as he got into the limo his wheels were turning-HE HAS IT IN THE BAG. All the media, publicity, his life will never be the same. I'll bet James' conversation came in real handy now.

All he has to do is play the game with Des for a few months, and his career, love life etc will go up exponentially. As his fans wrote on this board in stone HE IS A DEEP THNKER". For once, I'll agree with this statement.

I was not a Brooks 'supporter' and in light of what we just saw, even less so.... and of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I just can't agree with your perspective.  I think it's fair to call Brooks wishy washy or spineless... but personally I don't think he showed signs of being untruthful or cynical ...  misdirected, yes, self-promoting, no.  

I totally agree.  

Ariela -- you may be on to something, but I have an adjustment.  I'm not sure that he got into the limo and thought "Bingo!  I can be a star!!"  Maybe he did, we'll most likely never know!  But I DO think that he got into the limo knowing full well that his image was harshly tarnished -- that America would view him as a jerk and then some -- and figured that it was EASIER to go back, apologize, fake his undying love, propose, and then hope that eventually she would lose interest in the real world.  After all, that is what typically happens.  I have stated before that I think he is not used to having to deal alone with any issues in his life -- that someone typically is there to bail him out.  Faking a happy ending was the easiest move for him -- and he aided MF in making all of the viewing sappy girls deliriously delighted.

Just my very humble, yet realistic opinion.

No it's not realistic otherwise he would not do it in the first place, you guys can hate the guy but you know these assumptions are not valid and throughout the season you saw nothing that indicates what you are talking about imo but it's still you opinion though

Correct.   

LOL.
We are realistic (real world after the show), and we don't have our fangirly heads up Brooks' butt.  
So he fell back in love in 2 days with Des, right?

  Is realism for a select group set forth by those who claim to be keeping it real?

What happens in the real world with these real people is the true realism, not anything we say or claim to know here.  

Since I think most people are actually "gray" in the moment (not 50 shades type, but the unsure type), and Brooks clearly is an unsure type, I'm going to pull all this to the middle.

Perhaps he starts re-thinking because of what Des said and starts feeling like maybe it is worth a shot, that maybe he misread his own feelings. What backs up the willingness to re-think his own feelings and try it again is knowing that "winning" will be a good deal for him, and that if it doesn't end up working out, he's no worse off than the majority of past "winners." Because, after all, he barely knows Des at this point: he knows the REAL relationship starts after the show, and all he has to do right now is decide if he is willing to give it a shot. He will have to LIVE this relationship for a while, so it would be hard to go into ONLY for selfish reasons, but the selfish reasons could easily be enough to push a little bit of hope over the edge from "I'm not up to trying" into "worth trying."

[dw_a_mom]

yeah the fact that everybody has a source all of a sudden is so funny but it may just be a coincidence who knows

How do you figure that everyone has sources is all of a sudden.  We had 4-5 all season.  I think there might be 1 new one lately.  All the others are just confirming that Brooks is F1.

All of the posters with the "source" are longtime posters and have thousands of posts. I am reading through here thinking that Blondiegal (I think that is her name) is the source, and if so, yes she has been reliable- She confirmed Jef, I think it was her who knew about Emily rather than Chantel in the Brad 2.0 season, and confirmed that Sean would be the next bachelor. If that is the case, it is a reliable poster. I am  just guessing, unless she too has been Fleissed- doubt it though. (Maybe she IS Fleiss?? Just kidding)

yes but she had more clues about it being Jef and they were explained (how Jef stayed at the FRC country way longer than Arie and Sean, instagram pics putting Jef at the safehouse, Jef and Em taking flights at similar times) and evidence that Arie was not with Emily by the way he was acting post FRC. And with Brad 2.0 it was obvious he was way into Emily and there was no reason he wouldn't pick her. I just feel like there isn't enough proof it's Brooks or some things don't make sense that he and Des are happily engaged or together after what happened with the dumping and CH comments afterwards. People just keep saying Des is with Brooks and there is not one single detail of how it goes down in Antigua or any clues about the two of them after the FRC.

Is it possible that every source is being intentionally misled by Fleiss? Of course.

But he hasn't succeeded with that in recent years, and has never seemed too concerned about forums like this one calling it; he just doesn't like the "public" spoilers; so I don't think he'd try to mislead the special inside sources belonging to select members HERE.

But of course its possible.

Just very unlikely.

Too many reliable sources all saying the same thing. I don't think Fleiss could effectively control THAT many people.

[dw_a_mom]

For the moment, here are the facts :
- Brooks dumped Des in a harsh way
- CH blogged a not very flattering portrait of Brooks
- Des blogged she didn't know before watching last episode the Brooks conversation with mom and sis
- Drew and Chris will have a LCD
- a FRC set looking more like a funerarium than a wedding chapel. No lead, no contestant pictured in.
Make your own conclusion.

They may be together, but it's a farce. She's probably still seeing love that isn't there. it's best that she let the other 2 go.

Des' tweets say" let him pursue you" and the like, which are contrary to what happened between her and Brooks. She pursued him the entire season...

Maybe CH and Des purposely are saying not such nice things about Brooks to keep us guessing.

She's either alone or with Brooks. I cannot see her allowing herself to fall for Chris or Drew. It's too late. She' a GONNER mentally.
I think there was a lot of merit to LLiza's post upthread- he came back to save face. The break-up was worse than he expected. He knew that he looked and acted like a d---che. He came back, professed love, in a hurry.

I'm thinking CH isn't very kind to Brooks because he is protective of her, and he knows the Brooks does NOT FEEL IT. He is messing with her head until things die down.

Has Deanna ever given any insight into what happens in this situation? They have no ending. Do they all sit down in a meeting and create one? I just saw no good ending after everything Brooks said. Chris and Drew were out, and Brooks coming back so quickly with a complete 180 is far fetched. Maybe if there is no proposal it will be easier to believe.

Has anyone found the clip of Brooks and Nate on the MTP date? It was referred to on twitter, but I can't find it.

I don't know if others have heard more from DeAnna, but I recall her saying that picking Jesse was "making the best of it" and they were not in the least compatible. She has admitted that Graham was it. So you have to deduce that once he left at F4, she was just filming a show.

[dw_a_mom]

Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

That is easily explained and CH said it best - Brooks is wishy washy. He changes his mind constantly and worse he needs help in doing so. It is not surprising that from HTD to FD to FRC he has changed it multiple times.

What I don't get is how the apparently decisive Des who goes in and out of Costco with her list in hand and out with her purchases will gel with a guy like this.

 I thought the very same thing when I read how Des described what a trip for her to Costco is like!!

While I want to stay positive and hope the best for them if they are together, I just don't see Brooks as being at the same life point as Des. So many red flags on why they won't work ... I can't see it lasting, no matter how real it all ends up feeling after Monday.

But I'd love to eat crow on that. I'm a romantic.

[atem]

 

See, that's what I find so odd.  'Still together and happy'...the exact same line?

atem will kill me before this ends omg i'm laughing so hard right now

  

You guys don't think that's odd that every single one of them say that?  

I hope I'm wrong!

Hi atem-
I want to put you out of your misery on this .:Smiley: 

I reached out to My source and others reached out to THEIRS-
DIFFERENT sources .

No matter how it's said or how similar it sounds it's still has the same meaning
Brooks and Des together - still.
Des and Brooks together and happy.
As of today they are together still.

Brief and to the point-

I hope this helps you!

Yes, it does thank you.

[Aunties_Love]

These sources don't ever seem to have any details.  That's what makes me mad that people are getting their hopes all wrapped up in Brooks/Desiree being together.

I received confirmation this morning from a very reliable source that Brooks is the F1 and the couple is happy.
Quite sure others will be hearing same and reporting such.

Thanks Kasha.  I know you didn't exactly want to hear that bit of news, but that's nice of you to post it.

Actually, it makes no difference to me who any of them pick or how long they do or don't stay together. Seriously. No snark there.
Like anyone else here, I wish people happiness and good health, blessings and strength to get through the tough times.
My own personal life is not effected by the show and I try never to involve myself to that point where it could there are too many real issues for all of us.
Peace all!!  

thanks for sharing, Kasha!!..I believe wholehearthedly that Bres is the perfect lovely wishy washy match made in Bachelorette Heaven. . I wish them the berry best

And to think ! All your hours of thought and research to prove otherwise .  

Yes and that's her prerogative. Some people enjoy the process of sleuthing and analyzing the SC's, edit and other clues.  It's called thinking for yourself. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it and don't see why anyone else should have a problem.  We all watch this show in our own way. It would really be nice if everyone could respect that each of us takes our own path.

thanks for explaining, NNY!!...my English is escaping me right now..LOL.. . barb....its called FUN!! ring a ding??..... and the aim of my "research" is merely to satisfy my personal unstoppable wondering mind. IDC what others think. I share it mostly in Chrisville because my fellows would like to know it..and they do the same. and as its said, its best to share, right?...To sit back, relax and doing nothing (while swallow all of the spoilers pills) is definitely not my style in watching and enjoying a season. Even if my fav is the spoiled F1 i would definitely do the same.

I agree with what you have said Native.  Thanks for sticking up for the sleuthers that do go about this in a different process.  I use to do a lot of sleuthing before the spoilers started coming out, and I was one that believed the spoilers in Brad 2.0 season.  I was so determined that Chantal was the F1, I overlooked the obvious clues that were there.  We all know how that turned out.  I have been determined since to not just go on the spoilers, but to look at all the evidence in the case.  This time around, everything that we had been given didn't match up to the spoiler so I needed to keep researching it and figure out what happened.

I can see how sleuthers on here that didn't believe the spoilers(me included) felt as we were trying to make sense of the un-sensible with regards to Brooks being F1 spoiler when he obviously didn't get a FD or a LCD logically since there were no caps for them but there were caps for Drew and Chris for both.  At times though, it was hard to do the sleuthing and make posts as the posts that we were making were ridiculed in some circumstances.  I understand that it is hard to be on both sides of the coin as I have been there.

As far as "wasting" all the hours trying to disprove the spoilers, that is what sleuthing is about. We try to prove or disprove the spoilers and exactly what happens in a season. I know that some would rather just listen to the spoilers and feel that they are right, where as others want to explore other options. Neither method is "wrong" but it is a personal choice on how we want to find out or know about the ending is all. Ridiculing sleuthing vs spoiling isn't right no matter what side of the coin you are on.

Hope next season we can sleuth again and things will be ok.

[Mikesgirl83]

Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

If you watched objectively, you would have seen that Brooks was not all that much into Des. Even CH said so. Most of it was in her head. She was running so fast, she didn't realize that Brooks was crawling behind her. Pun intended ;)

I'll give you my theory on Brooks, but his diehard fans will hate it.

Brooks was sure he wasn't in love with Des. He was hoping she was further along with Drew and Chris so he didn't have to face her love assertiveness (for  a lack of better term) in the FS.
Now he finds out that she was going to choose him. He doesn't need any more time with her. For what? All he has to do is continue this charade, and Des will be ecstatic with a morsel of love. There isn't enough time to fall in love with ANYONE, Des, Chris, Drew, Brooks. He could just crash the party at the end.....WHY,  you ask?

Because as soon as he got into the limo his wheels were turning-HE HAS IT IN THE BAG. All the media, publicity, his life will never be the same. I'll bet James' conversation came in real handy now.

All he has to do is play the game with Des for a few months, and his career, love life etc will go up exponentially. As his fans wrote on this board in stone HE IS A DEEP THNKER". For once, I'll agree with this statement.

I think you may have him confused with 1F.

Very easy mix up, guilty by association of Utah I guess....1F has set the precedence, maybe Brooks will re-write it!!!!!

What a crock of horse sh... poop

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