Re: Nick Viall & Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - Discussion

by North Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:10 pm

Alanna wrote:
North wrote:
Alanna wrote:I don't want to get this thread locked on comparing folks/ couples but I totally disagree. This is in fact my whole big problem with Nick. If you want LA or whatever, just be who you are. K is an idiot sometimes but I find her genuine, nick is the least genuine contestant I've ever seen and a master manipulator IMO.

Didn't watch Andi or Kaitlyn's season AND definitely don't want to get this thread locked but can you expand your view/opinion of Nick's manipulative and disingenuous behavior? Is that allowed in this thread? Still new and still not sure I understand all the rules...even though I've read them!
Sure. All IMO, of course.

Thanks! Appreciate hearing your thoughts...

by Skates Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:12 pm

mprssdbyu wrote:
alwaystulips wrote:
Maya wrote:THIS!

Exactly what I mean. Classless IMO.

But REAL! If the azzhats (media) trolls want to paint the guy they love in a negative light, TOUCHE! I love it. It's their opinion and they are entitled.

I actually love this...they are defending the couple for all the backlashes...for all the unnecessary cyber bullying on SM and the grilling from the press...I think this is where people need to shout out and say enough is enough... leave them alone... and, have a life...

I still remember wherein Nick's brother has mentioned about the characters in TB being put under the bus...creating drama, exposing the person to cyber bullying...I can't find the source right now...I bet the family knows a lot more on what's going on behind the scenes...

by sosleepy Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:13 pm

Alanna wrote:@sosleepy, fair points/perspective. Disagreed but good post!!

You reminded me: I find his family as weird as him, what with constantly showing off that crying little sis every chance they get IMO.

Ehh I find that I'm over this guy and issue Where'S my fresh meat from this show??

@Alanna you are my Bachelorette board #goals. laugh out loud

I totally always respect your opinion and humor even if I find we like never agree!!! Haha... someday I hope I see eye to eye with you, cause girl, you are savage with your posts and it's hard to refute and "argue" with you!

by mysthelma Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:15 pm

sosleepy wrote:
Alanna wrote:
North wrote:

Didn't watch Andi or Kaitlyn's season AND definitely don't want to get this thread locked but can you expand your view/opinion of Nick's manipulative and disingenuous behavior? Is that allowed in this thread? Still new and still not sure I understand all the rules...even though I've read them!
Sure. All IMO, of course.

1. His behavior at Andi's atfr, which if I mention again might get me banned so I'll move on.

2. His whole tryst with Kait. Do I for a second believe he has any real interest in K, who I generally like a lot but let's face it, is kinda dingbat IMO? Nope, I don't. He knew exactly what he was doing and got himself back on the show IMO.

3. On to his 3rd reality show: BIP. Do I believe he's actually so caring about poor Duh and the love lives of Ashley I? I do not. IMO he knew what he was doing, won back the fan base and then acted all gee golly when he got the gig for Bach, which brings me to reality show numero quatro.

4. Bach/Vanessa/Dwts: I'll just group these because I'm getting tired typing To me, all I see is an opportunist who is at best lukewarm towards her but she satisfies some good f1 checkboxes so why not? Maybe they're the same and will stay together as long as the opportunities they don't want keep coming idk and no one knows. I see nothing at all genuine about him, now or ever. But he can prove me wrong, Emily M did anyway. Time will tell.

All my opinion of course:

1. Re:Andi. It takes two to tango. She painted him into a corner with her heinous attitude towards him. Had she been nicer and exhibited even a bit of sympathy and kindness I do not think he would have called her out. They have since publicly burried the hatchet anyway, and he has apologized to her for what he said. He says it's his #1 Bachelor World regret.

2. Re: Kaitlyn. Sharleen, his friend, has recently vouged for him how devestated he was after that season. Also, if you watched his season, his family stressed how hard his breakup was with Kaitlyn in particular. I absolutely buy he was really into her and was upset when she got the Ette gig. As far as the sex, it takes 2 to tango. Kaitlyn had no reason to be so bitter towards the man SHE invited back to her room. She continues to act like a total brat towards him to this day, despite Nick continually taking the high road with her.

3. BIP. Of course he wanted to clear up his image. No brainer. He had some fun. It worked out in his favor. Gave him more fame, which I'm not discounting he wants.

4. Too early to tell how V/DWTS will pan out. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and take a wait and see approach. On the show, I saw intense Ashley/JP level chemistry between the two. I guess time will tell and we don't have the benefit of hindsite yet to make an accurate assessment of the situation.

Per the bolded, their chemistry was not comparable to Ashley and JP imho.

by happygolucky Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:18 pm

Adding JMO ... Rachel or Andi would never "bode well" with Nick in RL ... and I don't see them as his match at all ... actually 1 thing they both have in common is their "ego" of wanting to "control the situation" and not be vulnerable - and this is just my assessment, no criticism, no negative connotation - which IMO wouldn't have worked in Nick's favor, let alone "get him out of his head" ... actually reading about "the resentment" in some post prior, that's what I would predict would have happened to Nick with those 2 women if there had been ever a chance of their union.
But ... Andi wasn't even 100% herself with him during "their relationship" on the show ... and Nick wasn't into Rachel beyond his interest in her as a person (as he is interested to know/understand many folks, including Ashely I, twins, JJ, Tanner and many other personalities from BN) ... so in both cases - IMO - there was never a (power) balance to be able to talk about some solid compatibility.

by **GuardianAngel** Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:20 pm

I'm loving the I respect even though I disagree with your posts comments! yes

by bleuberry Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:22 pm

I think both of his Bette exes, the new ette, and his f1 have that dominant, don't f*cking cross me aura. I wonder what kind of girl he ends up settling down with one day. I don't think this his long term type even if he's insanely attracted to it. JMO.

by Alanna Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:24 pm

sosleepy wrote:
Alanna wrote:@sosleepy, fair points/perspective. Disagreed but good post!!

You reminded me: I find his family as weird as him, what with constantly showing off that crying little sis every chance they get IMO.

Ehh I find that I'm over this guy and issue Where'S my fresh meat from this show??

@Alanna you are my Bachelorette board #goals. I totally always respect your opinion and humor even if I find we like never agree!!! Haha... someday I hope I see eye to eye with you, cause girl, you are savage with your posts and it's hard to refute and "argue" with you!

Ahh thanks!!! One of these days we'll agree and life will get immediately more boring on here laugh out loud

by quietpal Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:24 pm

I don't understand what age has to do with going on a reality tv show. Especially, if there's money involved. Um hello? I'm not talking about his stints on the b'ette cause I know he's not paid for those, but the bach and dwts why not? It's his life. On top of that he found the woman of his dreams and she's supporting him and is by his side. Again dude is getting paid. I don't care how many shows he's on, somebody keeps offering him opportunities and he takes them. Smart move if you ask me.

by lovebites8727 Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:37 pm

This article they talked the options if Vanessa will move to USA since she is a Canadian.

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/03/145779/the-bachelor-nick-viall-vanessa-grimaldi-immigration-process

by ReneeM Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:38 pm

Middle finger pictures are so crass IMO. And I don't mind crass at all but it's also super juvenile IMO. Like I haven't taken/posted a middle finger picture since I was 15, and I cringe at all of them. It's even worse IMO when grown azz people post them. I know the Viall's took that middle finger thanksgiving picture and it wasn't cute then IMO and posting that picture of Vanessa photoshopped or not isn't cute now. All JMO.

by Kashathediva Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:43 pm

Alanna wrote:That's fine, they can be as supportive of each other as possible and do whatever the heck they want but to claim they don't want to be famous or want a normal life? How ridiculous IMO but yet he says it with a straight face. So hilarious to me

Right now that is his job and his paycheck. So it's normal for him, I guess just like being in the media would be for anyone getting a paycheck. I can think of at LEAST 5 past leads or F1s doing this currently. I guarantee they are all laughing all the way to the bank.

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