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Post by GuardianAngel Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:07 pm

hae1001 wrote:@GuardianAngel on her instagram account she has a few posts that reveal her age. Here is one from November 2012 where she celebrated her 21st birthday, which would make her 25. Post
Also, the photo that was discussed pre show on here about whether she had lip fillers, was captioned "lips established in 1991" Post

Thank you! for providing proof of her age. The last thing I want is an incorrect age quoted over and over!


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Post by Guest Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:08 pm

I just don't think nick is a very considerate guy. He's all about making good TV and doesn't care that he comes off looking like a horny guy that was super off-putting to many of the women there. I wouldn't even want to fight for him after that, as he didn't come off very husband-material like to me. The fact that he behaved this way with two final girls there just is so weird to me. Even when he made that joke when Kristina was talking about "oral hygiene" and his mind going someplace else with that made me cringe. Does everything have to be sexual with this guy? It just seems like a trashy season. Shame, because I was initially excited but it is what it is. IMO.

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Post by Duke702 Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:17 pm

Nick's already coming off sleazy to me. It's prob just going to get worse. And I'm off and on with liking him. Right now he's in the womanizer category for me...along with Ben F and Bob Guiney. jmo. Like why did he make out with Lacey Mark only to send her home right after,Meh.

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Post by mprssdbyu Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:56 pm

Gosh, sounds like I'll be watching by myself. It is only the SECOND episode. The story begins next week, IMO. I expect it to really build after Rachel has her 1-1. I can't wait.
In the meantime, I'll just chuckle at Corinne. Poor naive spoiled child. It's going to be a rough ride for her, IMO. She just doesn't get under my skin for some reason. I pity her for the edit she's going to get. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much editing they had to do. Hopefully, she can learn a few valuable life lessons. If not, that's on her. She's just filler. I don't see any Courtney at all in her but that's just me. Bring on next week!!!


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Post by Guest Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:17 pm

ironcat wrote:
lleyki wrote:
he's had at least 6 different sex partners within the franchise alone.

Is that a fact or is it based on RS's claim of 7 women he knows Nick has been with. Because far as I know, the only ones that have been confirmed is Andi, Kaitlyn and Jen. Liz doesn't count because she wasn't part of the franchise yet when they slept together.

As for his feelings about casual sex, Nick was clear during his media interviews right after Andi's season that he doesn't and never had an issue with casual sex. His issue with Andi was that she knew his feelings for her at that point, where he stood and what he thought the whole thing meant to her. And so he didn't understand why, if she knew she was not only picking Josh but never in love with him, she'd go as far as sleeping with him.



I was counting 6 as follows- Andi, Kaitlyn, Jen, Liz (she is now within the franchise), Vanessa, then between Rachel, Raven and the 2-3 RS claims he hooked up with, I figure he at least hooked up with one of them.  And as to Nick's attitude about sex, I was only commenting on MY OWN personal initial impression of Nick when he acted so devastated months after the act on Andi's ATFR (before he went on his media tour and explained his sex philosophy, thus disabusing me of that notion).


Is it a fact that he slept with his final 3?

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Post by OnePromise Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:31 pm

@mprssdbyu
You won't be watching alone. There are many here who are enjoying Nick's story but just sick of having to defend his every move because we relate to him and find something about him engaging or familiar.

I like Nick as a tv personality and feel that he is very entertaining to watch. I also don't doubt that he is a normal, nice guy in real life. He is just more brutally honest about the reality of the situation he is in, which I also appreciate. His blunt honesty causes him to say and do things some find distasteful. But I respect and relate better to those who don't sugar coat the truth.  I am assuming that Nick also finds this engaging as he supposedly picks Vanessa who calls his BS as she sees it.

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Post by AllAboutLove Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:32 pm

mprssdbyu wrote:Gosh, sounds like I'll be watching by myself. It is only the SECOND episode. The story begins next week, IMO. I expect it to really build after Rachel has her 1-1.  I can't wait.
In the meantime, I'll just chuckle at Corinne. Poor naive spoiled child. It's going to be a rough ride for her, IMO. She just doesn't get under my skin for some reason. I pity her for the edit she's going to get. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much editing they had to do. Hopefully, she can learn a few valuable life lessons. If not, that's on her. She's just filler. I don't see any Courtney at all in her but that's just me. Bring on next week!!!
Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 2 Jan 9th - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - Page 37 3806527698 thumbsup I'll be watching with you!

Honestly nothing about this second episode surprised me. Perhaps I have just gotten used to the formula of this show -- shock and drama for the first few episodes and then as it winds down post-F6 things begin to get more serious.

I've learned not to take this show too seriously in the first few episodes and that the ones that are doing the crazy/drama are there to get themselves on BIP and/or some shilling opportunity.

As you said, bring on next week! 2pop
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:33 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:I may be in a minority but I think Ep 2 was just part of the script to showcase Nick's journey on this show... thinking with his small Nick to actually being serious about finding a wife. That Vanessa in the preview just happens to be the one to ask him this very question and Nick doesn't take Corinne to F3 (so no FD) shows me that Nick's storyline will be that of putting the past and bad boy type ways behind him to being serious about finding a wife and not just a good time in his "journey" of finding the one.

In a way I see it as a progression of Nick-makes-mistakes to Nick-finds-the-one and HEA. It's why I just ignore all the noise in these early episodes because it's all just filler to me (and honestly I don't think Nick was into any of it this episode, he looked like he was just going through the motions to showcase this progression on his journey, IMO).




Vanessa was in the first group date.

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Post by shaughnessyb Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:39 pm

mprssdbyu wrote:Gosh, sounds like I'll be watching by myself. It is only the SECOND episode. The story begins next week, IMO. I expect it to really build after Rachel has her 1-1.  I can't wait.
In the meantime, I'll just chuckle at Corinne. Poor naive spoiled child. It's going to be a rough ride for her, IMO. She just doesn't get under my skin for some reason. I pity her for the edit she's going to get. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much editing they had to do. Hopefully, she can learn a few valuable life lessons. If not, that's on her. She's just filler. I don't see any Courtney at all in her but that's just me. Bring on next week!!!

thumbsup I agree

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Post by Kashathediva Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:41 pm

reason wrote:
ironcat wrote:
lleyki wrote:

Is that a fact or is it based on RS's claim of 7 women he knows Nick has been with. Because far as I know, the only ones that have been confirmed is Andi, Kaitlyn and Jen. Liz doesn't count because she wasn't part of the franchise yet when they slept together.

As for his feelings about casual sex, Nick was clear during his media interviews right after Andi's season that he doesn't and never had an issue with casual sex. His issue with Andi was that she knew his feelings for her at that point, where he stood and what he thought the whole thing meant to her. And so he didn't understand why, if she knew she was not only picking Josh but never in love with him, she'd go as far as sleeping with him.



I was counting 6 as follows- Andi, Kaitlyn, Jen, Liz (she is now within the franchise), Vanessa, then between Rachel, Raven and the 2-3 RS claims he hooked up with, I figure he at least hooked up with one of them.  And as to Nick's attitude about sex, I was only commenting on MY OWN personal initial impression of Nick when he acted so devastated months after the act on Andi's ATFR (before he went on his media tour and explained his sex philosophy, thus disabusing me of that notion).


Is it a fact that he slept with his final 3?

Unless someone comes forward as Liz did and IMO that is so tacky, how could anyone know? Personally, I don't care about anyone else's private fluid swap.



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Post by sdmom Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:52 pm

If RS is true, I take comfort in the following things:
Corinne didn't get 1-1 but just a 2-1 date.
Nick didn't have sex with her but sent her back when she sneaked into his hotel room.
She was sent home at f4 and we have proof of this (she was photographed with friends when it's still filming), so Nick didn't need to spend a night with her.
Theses things tell me Nick uses his big head to make important decisions. IMO.


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Post by OnePromise Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:53 pm

OnePromise wrote:I believe that Nick knows what his decisions (to give Corrine the first group date rose and play along with her antics) are going to do to the other women.  He knows it's going to piss them off. Put them under pressure. And bring out their true colors. Nick is looking for a wife. Not just a nice looking arm trophy for tv appearances. He wants to know what each woman is made of. Best way to do that... turn up the heat.  Corrine definitely has that covered.

Sorry to quote myself, but I think that Nick gave the best reason why he chose to give Corrine the group date rose.  From his own words:

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From his People blog: https://www.google.com/amp/people.com/tv/bachelor-nick-viall-exclusive-blog-liz-exit-corinne-topless-photo-shoot/amp/

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