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Post by Sprite Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:49 pm

Rolly wrote:I'm kind of surprised with how much criticism is coming towards JoJo with the possibility that she is the next lead. I follow her on Twitter and haven't noticed irritating followers. If it becomes too bad the great thing is you can just unfollow her. I guess whoever the lead is they won't be liked by everybody.

No more surprising than all the criticism directed at Caila if she was the bette.


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Post by Guest Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:53 pm

Lucas15 wrote:And there really was a switcheroo this season - but nothing concerned with Ben's season - the switch was about the next lead. Planned all along, IMO just like the last big switch.

Floating through the back of my mind was maybe Ben made a switch that totally ruined TPTB's plans! What if Caila was the projected F2 with JoJo in the F3 spot? Then Caila's little visit to Ben and his letting her go blew that out of the water? Am I remembering wrong that he said something about not forseeing letting her go?

Of course, I could have foggy brain myself...

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Post by Alanna Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:58 pm

No way! I wonder if Jojo really is the next lead. I wonder how they'll arrange this at the atfr, if she's to be the next lead AND heartbroken f2. I'm so excited if it's true though!


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Post by Sprite Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:09 pm

Bubblebunny wrote:I hope Caila is feeling okay, but I'm also excited for Jojo! I've gotten some Andi vibes from her from early on and I'm one of the few people that actually enjoyed Andi's season. It wouldn't be at all surprising to me if she picks a Josh type. Also, if Nick goes on this season too, I will deny ever having liked him. rotfl

limoncello wrote:oh this is rich. shall we enjoy the brothers watching their sister brainwashing the guys then?  Hugesmile these people will suffer from hypocrisy at its best.

And how awesome would it be if the ex came on the show to win her back? It was clear to me that he was all in on the little fake out on her HTD....all the better for him to be a part of their next show. Yes, I can hear the hypocrisy screaming.

relaxing wrote:  Snipped

As to Jojo - High clap .

I'm not surprised in the sense that I haven't seen such a perfect Bachelorette candidate in a long time.  Choosing the lead for ABC/TPTB is a business hiring and IMO they couldn't have overlooked such a perfect candidate for a significantly lesser one.  The tone of the general audience was very clear. There's no way IMO that doesn't matter to them, to put out a product people are in large numbers saying they don't want. In this era of social media, it's a lot harder for TPTB to invent someone as a fan fave viewers are invested in if it's simply not true IMO.  This would have been one of their most bone headed moves to date, with the media attention Jojo will have after this finale.

Plus Jojo is such perfect lead material and will have the best set up for their own chance at love since Deanna, IMO. Can't wait!

I see nothing perfect about JoJo as the bette candidate...any more than any previous bette...other than she and her family and her ex know how to work it. As for her comparison to Deanna, well, we all know how well that worked out.


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Post by Guest Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:11 pm

GA  is there a chance the TPTB would change their minds again... and go back to Caila?  How certainly are you that JoJo is a done deal for the lead?  Just wondering, I do not have any inside info!!!

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:27 pm

Sprite wrote:
Bubblebunny wrote:I hope Caila is feeling okay, but I'm also excited for Jojo! I've gotten some Andi vibes from her from early on and I'm one of the few people that actually enjoyed Andi's season. It wouldn't be at all surprising to me if she picks a Josh type. Also, if Nick goes on this season too, I will deny ever having liked him. rotfl

limoncello wrote:oh this is rich. shall we enjoy the brothers watching their sister brainwashing the guys then?  Hugesmile these people will suffer from hypocrisy at its best.

And how awesome would it be if the ex came on the show to win her back? It was clear to me that he was all in on the little fake out on her HTD....all the better for him to be a part of their next show. Yes, I can hear the hypocrisy screaming.

relaxing wrote:  Snipped

As to Jojo - High clap .

I'm not surprised in the sense that I haven't seen such a perfect Bachelorette candidate in a long time.  Choosing the lead for ABC/TPTB is a business hiring and IMO they couldn't have overlooked such a perfect candidate for a significantly lesser one.  The tone of the general audience was very clear. There's no way IMO that doesn't matter to them, to put out a product people are in large numbers saying they don't want. In this era of social media, it's a lot harder for TPTB to invent someone as a fan fave viewers are invested in if it's simply not true IMO.  This would have been one of their most bone headed moves to date, with the media attention Jojo will have after this finale.

Plus Jojo is such perfect lead material and will have the best set up for their own chance at love since Deanna, IMO. Can't wait!

I see nothing perfect about JoJo as the bette candidate...any more than any previous bette...other than she and her family and her ex know how to work it. As for her comparison to Deanna, well, we all know how well that worked out.

I'm sure not everyone does, it's just my opinion. I have many reason I feel that way, but since it's of course subjective I didn't list them all, but for me personally, it's a long list Smiley .

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Post by Idlemess Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:30 pm

Alanna wrote:No way! I wonder if Jojo really is the next lead. I wonder how they'll arrange this at the atfr, if she's to be the next lead AND heartbroken f2. I'm so excited if it's true though!

Well if she fist bumped him or was understandable then not so heartbroken. Maybe that's how they can spin it. Upset but was not too surprised


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Post by Guest Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:35 pm

I could totally see TPTB trying to have Jojo's ex on as a contestant because wasn't that what happened with her brother on RFL? I think it was him that actually had an ex in his group of women. TPTB haven't used that one before so I'm sure they'd love to "borrow" that idea for a new twist. RFL was so low rated not many people would even know the parallel.

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Post by mindless Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:36 pm

Nick was pretty blindsided and pissed at Kaitlyn at the end, yet he was totally over her by ATFR. JoJo can pull it off as well, I'm sure.
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Post by Alanna Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:38 pm

relaxing wrote:I could totally see TPTB trying to have Jojo's ex on as a contestant because wasn't that what happened with her brother on RFL?  I think it was him that actually had an ex in his group of women.  TPTB haven't used that one before so I'm sure they'd love to "borrow" that idea for a new twist.  RFL was so low rated not many people would even know the parallel.
I think the ex would be all over this scenario. I can only hope mom + champagne bottle + those broskies will be featured heavily as well. That family was meant for fame, I'm sorry.


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Post by Idlemess Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:48 pm

I read somewhere that production usually tell the contestants what to talk about...so even if F2 was over it, they've to act like they cared or still needed answers.
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:40 pm

sophienette wrote:Well if Caila is blindsided at not being lead, I am sorry for her!

I do think Jojo is a more exciting bachelorette, so can't wait! But let's be honest, i would watch for the guys anyway ;)

IMO it's possible that Caila turned down the lead.  IMO even though she IMO wants to be famous maybe she had enough of tptb pulling her puppet strings.  IMO she's just had enough of being told what she can or can't do JMO. I think it's probable that Caila turned it down. JMO


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