The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

^^^Yes, yes and yes! I have been liking every post on thread.

Very happy Jo Jo is lead. I am also happy as I expect we will have a ATFR that celebrates the final couple. With CH gushing over Ben being most popular Bachelor ever, viewers deserve to see and enjoy the happy couple instead of watch him squirm over a break up that happened 4 months ago.

I have a great feeling about Jo Jo as lead and think that she will be awesome. Caila is so adorable and was probably offered something in exchange for her support. I can totally see her more suited to being a television host with her bubbly personality and perfect hair.

It's just a win win all around. And a win for this forum...congrats to GuardianAngel for getting the scoop! You rock.

I love how the truth always comes out on this forum.

^^Yes, I agree, it is a win-win for all.  This is the big surprise build-up at the AFRC perhaps, that they will pretend to offer JoJo the next lead to mend her broken-heart and all players will act surprised.  JoJo is better suited for this role over Caila, IMO.  She has more experience in relationships and family drama.  You can bet the brothers will be involved somehow.  I really like Caila, and agree that she has a brighter future elsewhere, perhaps on TV/Media and hope to follow her journey elsewhere.

Caila seemed to be recipient of SM criticism and TB used her as a "fall guy", which was unjustly deserved if this was a ruse from the beginning.  I hope TB rewards her well.

JMO.

If it's true

^^^oh, I totally think it is true.

I feel sorry for Caila. I can't think of one thing she did to deserve the intense, persistent level of backlash she got. I think the only reason they took it away from her was because of the negativity on SM, and I think that's a shame. I like JoJo, and I wanted her to be the Bachelorette, but not this way. Caila is a lovely girl, and I hope she's not too upset.

puppiesandkittens wrote:I feel sorry for Caila. I can't think of one thing she did to deserve the intense, persistent level of backlash she got. I think the only reason they took it away from her was because of the negativity on SM, and I think that's a shame. I like JoJo, and I wanted her to be the Bachelorette, but not this way. Caila is a lovely girl, and I hope she's not too upset.

Yes, Yes,... Hugs to Caila. I just hope that she was in on the plan. She does not deserve to be messed with by TPTB.

I think she was in on the plan because she was almost making it too obvious that she was the bachelorette

I don't think Calia was in on it (at least not originally), I could see TPTB leading her on like they did Arie and Nick.  Maybe in the end after being told it wasn't going to be her, she joined in on the foiler, kind of like Nick did with all the SM media hints he gave right before Ben was announced, to save face and lend support to Jojo.  Especially after having been on the receiving end of a lot of unnecessary (IMO) backlash herself.  

That being said, if I watch I will totally not be the least bit invested.  I can roll my eyes when Jojo begins acting a little too much for my taste, just sit back and enjoy the eye candy and join in on the please eliminate this guy group fun.  

JMOAA.

I retweeted just because if true I don't want someone else taking credit for the scoop.

I feel for Caila, but honestly feel like this is better for her.  She didn't really have a natural tv presence, often came across awkward and confusing and just didn't captivate the audience, IMO.  She's a nice, accomplished girl and hopefully this will lead to great opportunities for her that are better suited for her than tv IMO.

As to Jojo - .


I'm not surprised in the sense that I haven't seen such a perfect Bachelorette candidate in a long time.  Choosing the lead for ABC/TPTB is a business hiring and IMO they couldn't have overlooked such a perfect candidate for a significantly lesser one.  The tone of the general audience was very clear. There's no way IMO that doesn't matter to them, to put out a product people are in large numbers saying they don't want. In this era of social media, it's a lot harder for TPTB to invent someone as a fan fave viewers are invested in if it's simply not true IMO.  This would have been one of their most bone headed moves to date, with the media attention Jojo will have after this finale.

Plus Jojo is such perfect lead material and will have the best set up for their own chance at love since Deanna, IMO. Can't wait!

If they really picked JoJo then I'm certain Caila was never their first option. They don't need the public to tell them who will give them a better season, since they're the ones who've been dealing with these women since last summer. I know it's a matter of opinion, but I can't see any reason they'd want Caila over JoJo except for the fact that she was F3. Since they're willing to work around JoJo being F2, that leaves no reason. I think the higher-ups at ABC may have been pushing for diversity and wanted Caila because of that, but Fleiss and co. don't care about that at all. Perhaps dangling Caila in front of the public was their way of showing the higher-ups that viewers don't want her, but that just shows that they themselves definitely didn't.

JMO.

GuardianAngel wrote:I don't know anything about JoJo's fans,  but for me I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, as I've said a few times. Personally she was in it to act, I saw nothing earth shattering from her. The HTD sealed it for me, they all wanted more reality tv.

Whoever the poster that said and there were a few, that said she reminded them of Andi, I'm in that camp.

Lucas and others, watched the Ready for Love clip that she was in. It was quite obvious she loved the little taste of TV.

If it's true, wish her luck as we've seen so many times, those that are so well liked have nowhere to go but down. TPTB are not nice people if they don't want to be. I wonder if one of the F4 will have a sister like Ashley/JP or a brother like JoJo's brothers or a brother like Des.

I am one of those who said she reminded me of Andi and if this is true, it just confirms that even more. The whole family was auditioning. They know how things work and made sure to work it. I saw how well all of that worked for Andi and I expect the same results for JoJo. No doubt, post show she will also be angling for a family reality show. As for her season, I am not looking forward to it and will probably only half watch to see who will be the next lead.

The producers had an opportunity to have a different kind of bette and they ended up with the same old. If they try to pass her of as some kind of diverse bette, I will be really p*ssed...even more than I am now. Honestly, I would have preferred Becca...at least she has a different kind of story. I have no doubt, that what goes around, comes around. She too will have some family ripping her a new one....that I will enjoy.