The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

I would LOVE Jojo as the next lead! As much as I dont see her for Ben, I would love to see her gorgeous witty self as our Bette!

I think it could still be JoJo. As noted by mysthelma in the Caila thread, according to Caila's LinkedIn she started a new job this month. Would she be able to take months off first thing? Sounds really odd. Seems like a job she'd be passionate about as well.

I also wonder about MF's tweets. Why would he keep hinting it's Caila if it really is her? I know he likes toying with his followers, but the payoff would be bigger if it turned out to not be Caila after all.

I really don't get the diminishing of Caila's appeal. If she's the Bette she'll do just fine. She's way more appealing than previous leads. imo. I originally didn't care whether she's the lead or not but all this Caila bashing is just making me want to root for her more. It's ridiculous that she's being diminished just because people don't want her to be the lead. It's fine if some people want Jojo to be the lead but don't diminish Caila just because you want the other person to be the lead. Caila has her own merits and so does Jojo. imo.

jen689 wrote:Nick was on AfterBuzz yesterday. He seemed confident production leaks information about the show to US Weekly and E Online.  For that reason he thinks Caila will be the next Bachelorette. None of the panel want Caila.  They think she isn't sincere and just says what production wants her to say. Nick also said his gut tells him the next Bachelorette will be JoJo

Well I remember many thinking the same of Nick on Andi's season. The general concensus was that he was not hurting but being a douche when he made the "in love why make love" comment so he should know better than to assume things.
We dont know how hurt or nt these people really are and is there really a limit on the tme to feel pain?

Maybe I'm just naturally cynical, but I agree that it's not necessarily an 100% done deal with Caila despite the reports. 

Looking at what we know so far:
- Caila's LinkedIn states that she started/is starting a new job in March 2016. Why would she take a new position if she was then immediately going to have to take time off for 2 months to film, and then probably further time off to do media interviews and press in LA?

- Fleiss enjoys messing with RS and he'd love for Caila to be leaked early only to pull the rug out from under RS. The theory that they leaked her early on purpose to gauge audience reaction could be part of this, too.

- Even though social media isn't what they base their final decision on, the disparity between Caila and JoJo's Twitter (33.1k vs 57.5k) and Instagram (160k vs 451k) followings is pretty telling. Plus, the Twitter response to US Weekly's announcement was pretty much 95% negative. Even though most of the people who are threatening to boycott will end up watching anyway, and the amount of people who don't watch won't really impact the ratings much, how are TPTB going to market someone who doesn't resonate with a lot of the audience? Even though Ashley and Brad 2.0 were also somewhat 'disliked' going into their seasons, it wasn't because people thought they were fake. Ashley was considered annoying and Brad's willingness to commit was questioned, but neither of them had a general consensus that they were phony. The fact that the biggest criticism of Caila is that she comes across as flaky and not genuine makes it difficult to promote her.

- JoJo was allegedly spotted at DFW flying to LA. She's been off the grid since then and started following another producer. Of course, it could be nothing, but it's interesting that if the sighting was true, that she's in LA so far in advance of the ATFR.

- And the most concrete fact: that they're announcing the Bachelorette at ATFR which makes it difficult to spin JoJo as heartbroken and then suddenly ready for love in the space of an hour. It's not impossible for them to work around this if they really want to, however.

At this stage, I'm probably 95% sure that it's Caila, 5% sure that it's JoJo. This new job for Caila really made me question the spoiler, though. I just don't understand it 

I personally don't think Mike Fleiss has spent a moment worrying about Reality Steve since their lawsuit was settled. Why do people always think he has a huge hard-on for Steve? Even Steve says Fleiss doesn't give a crap about him or his column. Fleiss has much bigger and more important people to worry about and devote time to.

But Fleiss is a pot-stirrer and an instigator. He HAS to be to keep those ratings up. He consistantly asks rhetorical questions on social media and says just enough for careless readers to assume all sorts of things that aren't actually stated. But he doesn't really care about those people either. They are not ABC shareholders.

And as far as a woman "walking into a cocktail party and commanding the room", I think Caila is far more able to do that than either Ashley or Des were. And I liked both of them in their seasons, and continue to like them.

I believe Caila is perfectly capable of leading a season because it doesn't really matter what she does or doesn't do, people will watch. I look forward to watching her.

JMO--that "new job" is a place card holder. I don't put much into it.

Wasnt Ben reported to have accepted a promotion at work before taking off to film the Bachelor?

julychild wrote:Wasnt Ben reported to have accepted a promotion at work before taking off to film the Bachelor?

No, I'm pretty sure he turned down a promotion. It was in the same article that talked about his relationship with Tenley.

mindless wrote:

julychild wrote:Wasnt Ben reported to have accepted a promotion at work before taking off to film the Bachelor?

No, I'm pretty sure he turned down a promotion. It was in the same article that talked about his relationship with Tenley.

Ok, thanks.

Maybe the new job is being The Bachelorette. Does her LinkedIn say what/where the job is?

Mustang19 wrote:Maybe the new job is being The Bachelorette. Does her LinkedIn say what/where the job is?

She's a Marketing Manager for BollyX. She was already certified as an instructor, though I don't think she actually taught any classes yet: http://life.bollyx.com/boston-bollyx-instructor-caila-quinn-is-on-abcs-the-bachelor/