The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

avacaroline wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I have no doubt that Lauren is his F1 ... Im just trying to figure out how the TPTb might try to sell us some doubt due to his obvious attraction for Lauren... Plus it could be there way to sell Caila as the next 'ette like they did for Allie

I get where you're going, but I just don't think that Caila can carry a show.  There have been F2's that have gotten the lead.....why not JoJo? I think she would make an amazing Ette!  She's beautiful, funny, smart, charasmatic,  sexy....she's tv gold , in my opinion.  I have grown to like her more and sympathize with her struggles more, thru the conflict of her family.  I guess the question is, is there time enough for her to "mend her broken heart and be ready for love" by the time they make the announcement for next season?

Longhornfan wrote:

avacaroline wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I have no doubt that Lauren is his F1 ... Im just trying to figure out how the TPTb might try to sell us some doubt due to his obvious attraction for Lauren... Plus it could be there way to sell Caila as the next 'ette like they did for Allie

I get where you're going, but I just don't think that Caila can carry a show.  There have been F2's that have gotten the lead.....why not JoJo? I think she would make an amazing Ette!  She's beautiful, funny, smart, charasmatic,  sexy....she's tv gold , in my opinion.  I have grown to like her more and sympathize with her struggles more, thru the conflict of her family.  I guess the question is, is there time enough for her to "mend her broken heart and be ready for love" by the time they make the announcement for next season?

I say yes.  Bachelor time is very different from real time.  That is especially true when they are able to watch all of the episodes as they are being shown and can see the other relationships with Ben play out right in front of them.  And in reality, they have not had enough time to have formed really deep relationships during their limited time on the show.  They are just in the beginning stages of falling in love IMO.  So, I can see JoJo having put that relationship behind her by the time she sees Ben at the AFTR.

ForeverLove wrote:Question? Does Ben meet with producers before each date? Activity review and with whom etc? If now they are saying he forgot two were left, is this a coverup for the slip up ?

Lucas15 wrote:

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Will JoJo's brothers ruin her chances at love with Ben? #TheBachelor
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Several thoughts on recent posts; sorry for not being able to be too precise here as posting really isn't easy for me off my iPad. First the above clip:

Ben can certainly come across as very sincere and caring and can and has shown what seem to me as real emotions. But not, IMO, in this clip. This is so scripted and delivered without any real emotions I found myself looking for a TelePrompTer. As has been posted in the last - it's mechanical. Both on Ben's part and also on JoJo's part. Neither should quit their day job to become actors.

So we have 3 ILY and IMO only one that can be pretty tightly nailed down as to who he said it to and that's the one in the preview where he said "I've known I'm in love with you for a while as well" and it's the wisps of blond hair in the frame that gives it away that he says the to Lauren. As to the other two I can't be sure. But I do believe that the likely ending storyboard makes no sense unless one of them is to JoJo so either one is actually said to JoJo or it's going to be made to look like it's said to JoJo because otherwise they've got nothing.

The phone call at the end is one both Sophie and I voice matched to another phone call Ben made and I believe it matches Ben's mother's voice and I think he makes that call just before he proposes to tell his Mom he's going to propose.

Up thread was a quote from Ben's blog where Ben (or someone writing for Ben) said that he believed if JoJo's brothers watched the show they would know how serious he was about JoJo. IMO that's about the stupidest thing anyone has ever put in a blog. Seriously? The last episode had Ben telling Lauren's father that when he met Lauren the world stopped. And shedding a tear when Lauren's sister asked him what was special about Lauren. That's supposed to show JoJo's brothers how serious Ben is about JoJo???? IMO all it really shows is that her brothers were totally justified in being skeptical (although boorishly antagonistic in how they approached expressing their skepticism).

And as far as JoJo and Ben being a good match .... if Ben's mother cried over the thought of Ben picking Emily  I can just imagine Thanksgiving dinner with Ben and his family and JoJo and her family - complete with brothers and Mama's wine glasses. And JoJo's ex. I don't think these two families are well matched and I think family is very important to Ben.
JMHO

umngirl wrote:^I believe it was mentioned in an interview CH did.