The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

ForeverLove wrote:Agreed North. We know and can see how he feels about both. But true, it's not equal and he says as much in the Finale about loving one...more. I feel like I'm trying to put a sock in his mouth to prevent this mistake . This is his problem to work out and amend . I will be curious what made him love one more than the other . Jmo, families played a part. One was the corresponding complement, and the other the antithesis.

The only time you can love 2 people equally, is if you've given birth to them

When ABC releases these photos with the roses and quotes for promotion...they're in corralation with what they are saying...right? Or am i not remembering one that was false?

*this gives me hope this one could be the slip up .... we shall see monday*

northernviewer wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:Agreed North. We know and can see how he feels about both. But true, it's not equal and he says as much in the Finale about loving one...more. I feel like I'm trying to put a sock in his mouth to prevent this mistake . This is his problem to work out and amend . I will be curious what made him love one more than the other . Jmo, families played a part. One was the corresponding complement, and the other the antithesis.

The only time you can love 2 people equally, is if you've given birth to them

Truth.

They certainly did their job. Over 60 pages and it's not even Monday yet

dyra wrote:

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So this is another new "ILY" or what ?

Possible location of this "I love you"? It looks like the greenery behind him here.

Litta's cap

Maybe it is to Lauren after they swim?

One thing: His eyes in that meme show genuine care if not love. Oh, Ben.

veg_out wrote:

dyra wrote:

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So this is another new "ILY" or what ?

Possible location of this "I love you"? It looks like the greenery behind him here.

Litta's cap

Maybe it is to Lauren after they swim?

One thing: His eyes in that meme show genuine care if not love. Oh, Ben.

I think that is ILY #4, if he said it there. How many times did he say it??

So he told JoJo twice that he loves her? Yikes Ben... Have fun at the ATFR on a serious note, maybe this will set up JoJo as the next bachelorette.

Diana wrote:So he told JoJo twice that he loves her? Yikes Ben... Have fun at the ATFR  on a serious note, maybe this will set up JoJo as the next bachelorette.

I am thinking the ILY we haven't been able to nail down the location of for sure might be on the LCD. But still this will be the 4th time we have seen him use he word.

Yikes is right!! Someone tell Lauren not to watch. I do agree that TPTB will use it to set JoJo up for the next bachelorette.

I think until proven wrong, he told JoJo ILY once, and Lauren multiple, multiple times. That heartfelt ILY (ILY #3) hasn't been conclusively tied to JoJo yet. It might be to Lauren.

Tiggerlgh wrote:
I think that is ILY #4, if he said it there.  How many times did he say it??

He was just tossing them out like confetti. He had to be completely confused by this point. This season has indicated though that Ben's not suave with navigating these relationships. He's in the moment and following his feelings rather than thinking, IMO.

Something to note: I watched an interview (ET Canada) with Lauren Himle who left in episode 6. During that interview, Lauren indicated that she was "blindsided" (another favorite word this season!) by her elimination. She felt affirmed in their relationship since she just had a really good one-on-one a few days before the RC, so it felt like a 180. That info leads me to believe that Ben prioritized the girls feeling valued and good about themselves when with him to the detriment of the reality of his feelings. Add onto this behavior that intensity of the FSD, LCD, finale, when Ben has to make a choice that is about him, not her, and we have this lovely "I love you" mess.

At this point, I'm expecting Ben to pull away from one of his F2. You'll see it in changes in kisses, affection, words, something. So I'll be looking for that on Monday.

Another note: Lauren H. said that all of them were "hammered" on the pig date in Jamaica, which probably accounts for the meltdowns that day. I also remember Ashley H. being drunk on her date with Ben (at least when on the boat), and there was a rumor that Ali was drunk for one of her FSDs. It's likely that Ben is tipsy for one or more of these dates just as much as it's likely that one or more of the girls are when they issue their professions of love.

I immediately thought the same as @veg_out, when I saw that pic. Didn't it say in some article or somewhere that he told one of the women during their date in the rain forest? That's why I thought maybe it was in the middle of their makeout session in the water and that's why it wasn't shown in the previews. It explains a lot of they exchanged ILY's during the day already, since JoJo's ILY over dinner didn't seem like a confession. I still think the other mystery ILY is from their LCD.