The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Sorry for quoting myself, but it appears we need to bring this forward again. Please choose your words carefully to prevent incorrect information being posted which gets re quoted and re discussed incorrectly.

GuardianAngel wrote:Before this gets out of hand with information that isn't correct, Ash2214 provided IMO the correct explanation. One may say he forgot, however that's not what was actually quoted.

"He just got to the point where he felt that emotion with two women," Harrison said, explaining that Higgins wasn't actually aware that he had told two different women he loves them until the producers pulled him aside to talk about it after the fact.

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Thanks, GA. I haven't been around today and I had seen that situation mentioned a few times and thought maybe this whole thing was going down hill. Lol I can see the confusion for some in the wording though.

GuardianAngel wrote:Sorry for quoting myself, but it appears we need to bring this forward again. Please choose your words carefully to prevent incorrect information being posted which gets re quoted and re discussed incorrectly.

GuardianAngel wrote:Before this gets out of hand with information that isn't correct, Ash2214 provided IMO the correct explanation. One may say he forgot, however that's not what was actually quoted.

"He just got to the point where he felt that emotion with two women," Harrison said, explaining that Higgins wasn't actually aware that he had told two different women he loves them until the producers pulled him aside to talk about it after the fact.

People

What could that possibly mean and how could that possibly happen??

Is he that tired that he doesn't remember what he's doing or saying?

Well in that one picture he looked like he was kind of tipsy so maybe he was drunk when he said one of the i love you's and did not remember it until he told the other woman I love you and then was told by the producers but did not remember the first one jmo

CH has said several times, Ben did a good job compartmentalizing his relationships so much so that he didn't realize he said ILY to both women. You can IMO only do that when you're in the Bachelor bubble.

I say that all the time, how can that possibly happen, when they are intimate with more than one person. It seems saying ILY to two women is worse.

nutty1 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Sorry for quoting myself, but it appears we need to bring this forward again. Please choose your words carefully to prevent incorrect information being posted which gets re quoted and re discussed incorrectly.

GuardianAngel wrote:Before this gets out of hand with information that isn't correct, Ash2214 provided IMO the correct explanation. One may say he forgot, however that's not what was actually quoted.



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What could that possibly mean and how could that possibly happen??

In my opinion, ol' Benny boy did a little to much sunnin' and gunnin' on his fantasy date with JoJo.

It's so crazy, but that's the bachelor bubble for ya

I'm guessing that he did what CH said he did, which was be in the moment with each girl and separate the relationships. If he did that then I can see his viewpoint. He was probably just so into it with Lauren and JoJo that he didn't even realize the predicament it put him in. It wasn't that he didn't remember IMO, it was just that he wasn't even thinking about the weird circumstance that he was in. In reality, if a relationship is going well, you usually feel all in and you don't end it. I could totally picture skeezy CH saying "hey buddy, uh, remember you have to let one go in a few days?"

If the filming schedule with JoJo's overnight on the 9th and Lauren's on the 11th is correct, I could kind of see it happening where he maybe was drunk or got swept up in the moment with JoJo and told her he loved her (especially since he hadn't had his overnight with Lauren yet and producers were getting in his head, eg 'Lauren hasn't told you she loves you yet. Shouldn't you stay open to the other relationships in case?'), then on his overnight with Lauren she finally tells him she loves him, he tells her he loves her too, he probably makes up his mind completely right then and there, ect. And then when he's sitting with producers gushing about his overnight with Lauren and how happy he is, they say "You know you told JoJo you love her too, right?"

Like I said earlier, I'm fairly certain TPTB, knowing how sensitive and easily manipulated Ben is, planned the "falls in love with two women" storyline from the start and thus prodded him in that direction by encouraging him to compartmentalise each relationship and stay open by leaving Lauren last. JMO.

I think the second to Lauren was a coverup after he didn't realize he said it to Jo. That's why Lauren's didn't seem romantic liked dazed and confused declaration to Jo. That was their form of damage control because Ben was heading to the end with Lauren imo. Poor Benny. Too much rope and look what happened. TPTB said, one man's slip up is another man's gold.

ForeverLove wrote:I think the second to Lauren was a coverup after he didn't realize he said it to Jo. That's why Lauren's didn't seem romantic liked dazed and confused declaration to Jo. That was their form of damage control because Ben was heading to the end with Lauren imo. Poor Benny. Too much rope and look what happened. TPTB said, one man's slip up is another man's gold.

Which one to Lauren? I thought he I have been wanting to reel you ILY fir a while now was kind of romantic. IMHO.

We have three ILYs in clips so far. I believe yptwo are to Lauren and one to JoJo (of the ones I have seen).

Al, imho

Tiggerlgh wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:I think the second to Lauren was a coverup after he didn't realize he said it to Jo. That's why Lauren's didn't seem romantic liked dazed and confused declaration to Jo. That was their form of damage control because Ben was heading to the end with Lauren imo. Poor Benny. Too much rope and look what happened. TPTB said, one man's slip up is another man's gold.

Which one to Lauren?  I thought he I have been wanting to reel you ILY fir a while now was kind of romantic.  IMHO.

We have three ILYs in clips so far.  I believe yptwo are to Lauren and one to JoJo (of the ones I have seen).

Al, imho

The day one. That's why I tried to puzzle in Caila. The first one with Ben in blueish t-shirt. The I do love you. Just didn't fit anything romantic like the dazed and confused one imo. He had his first date with Jo the way it was filmed, did his slip up. After he was told, they have to think of a way to get back on track. The only way was to declare love to Lauren whose date was actually filmed last. No?