The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

The Mesnick is the meltdown

You've seen how emotional Ben gets – he does pull at least a 3/4 Mesnick,”Chris told reporters on Friday, referencing season 13’s Bachelor, Jason Mesnick who changed his mind on After the Final Rose. “He really narrowed it down to two women that he loves and he knows that he’s going to hurt somebody and he knows that he’s going to lose somebody he loves.”


http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/02/29/bachelor-ben-higgins-loves-two-women-chris-harrison-jason-mesnick/

Definitely it refers to the emotional meltdown.

It's definitely the meltdown. CH made a huge deal about the Mesnick at Jade and tanner's wedding.

I bet Ben doesn't even pull a 3/4 Mesnick. CH teased a Mesnick for all of Kaitlyn's season and I still don't know who did it or when that happened. Maybe cupcake? CH is the king of BS. I think if there was footage of Ben weeping, we would have seen it in the promo already. IMO.

Maybe Ben will propose to Lauren again at the AFTR to make up for the circumstances surrounding the first proposal. Erase the bad taste in her mouth regarding the "in love with" F2 at FRC?

Lauren was the last woman standing and at that moment, IMO (no matter what any spurious magazine source says) he was of one mind- being engaged to Lauren.

jcrbil wrote:Lauren was the last woman standing and at that moment, IMO (no matter what any spurious magazine source says) he was of one mind- being engaged to Lauren.

I agree! that "I'm ready, I'm really ready" in the previews is so intense and definite!

Ladybug82 wrote:Didn't CH at some point recently clarify his definition of the Mesnick as the emotional, melt down, wailing over the railing in despair, not the actual switch?  I can't remember the source, does anyone here remember?  

He had Mesnick demonstrate it at the Janner wedding. They didn't even mention a switch, just being really emotional and crying over a railing.

I think the only other balcony scene that will rival the Mesnick is Romeo amd Juliet

It's highly unlikely at this point, but if he did choose JoJo F1, I don't think it would be viewed as a switch.  I think Lauren and JoJo have been a little more equal than TPTB would like us all to believe., IMO.

I did see the potential flip of the car but what if they just erased Ben's left side pocket for confusion?

I'm really confused and Mike Fleiss, the engineer of confusion, is at his best this season because I've never been this in doubt about my chosen F1 before. I do hope it is Lauren but the things that fester doubt in my mind are:

- Lauren has been traveling to far away places with her family. She seems to be drawing support from her fam. This is he biggest red flag for me because I find it strange that if you're the F1 coming off from the TV show and trying to make it in the real world with the guy who put you through hell and back, I would think you won't go to such places that are so far away for long periods of time without your guy. There's a very somber feel to her IG while very upbeat in Jojo's.

- I can't fit the phrase "saying goodbye to her doesn't feel right and it's the biggest mistake I have made" except if a switch indeed happens

- The reference to Mesnick is so palpable that makes it hard to ignore and believe it's only about the emotional meltdown. Maybe not to the extent of waiting for the AFTR for the switch but it happens during that FRC. They even seated Ben next to Jason at Jade and Tanner's wedding!

- The very emotional and heartfelt ILY to Jojo that we haven't seen yet. If that was said during the LCD, I can't see him proposing to Lauren in a few days.

- In the goodbye preview, I would have expected Ben's head bent lower if he's saying goodbye to Jojo because she's way shorter than him even with heels on.

Sorry to encourage doubt in those that are confident in Lauren being F1. I really hope I am wrong. I am an eternal pessimist so I don't end up being disappointed when something goes wrong but pleasantly surprised if things go my way!

I have another question - has it been sleuthed that the woman he called is Lauren becauseit sounds like her. I just don't know for what reason would he call her.

I'm new to sleuthing but some of what you're referring to from the previews are voiceovers . They're spliced in to create a certain sentence to mislead. The biggest mistake I made is not something he said in that FRC moment . It was added in. Mo