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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
You make some excellent points. The bolded reminded me of when Brooks went on a cruise. It seemed so odd to me at the time. And, I've also noticed that there is a sadness in Lauren's eyes in some of recent pictures on SM. Again, another great post.SarahD wrote:I did see the potential flip of the car but what if they just erased Ben's left side pocket for confusion?
I'm really confused and Mike Fleiss, the engineer of confusion, is at his best this season because I've never been this in doubt about my chosen F1 before. I do hope it is Lauren but the things that fester doubt in my mind are:
- Lauren has been traveling to far away places with her family. She seems to be drawing support from her fam. This is he biggest red flag for me because I find it strange that if you're the F1 coming off from the TV show and trying to make it in the real world with the guy who put you through hell and back, I would think you won't go to such places that are so far away for long periods of time without your guy. There's a very somber feel to her IG while very upbeat in Jojo's.
- I can't fit the phrase "saying goodbye to her doesn't feel right and it's the biggest mistake I have made" except if a switch indeed happens
- The reference to Mesnick is so palpable that makes it hard to ignore and believe it's only about the emotional meltdown. Maybe not to the extent of waiting for the AFTR for the switch but it happens during that FRC. They even seated Ben next to Jason at Jade and Tanner's wedding!
- The very emotional and heartfelt ILY to Jojo that we haven't seen yet. If that was said during the LCD, I can't see him proposing to Lauren in a few days.
- In the goodbye preview, I would have expected Ben's head bent lower if he's saying goodbye to Jojo because she's way shorter than him even with heels on.
Sorry to encourage doubt in those that are confident in Lauren being F1. I really hope I am wrong. I am an eternal pessimist so I don't end up being disappointed when something goes wrong but pleasantly surprised if things go my way!
I have another question - has it been sleuthed that the woman he called is Lauren becauseit sounds like her. I just don't know for what reason would he call her.
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
She has gone on 2 family trips .. Each a week or do .. Not long term .. Pulling a Mesnick is strictly the FRC reaction that he had .. Far outdoing any other bachelor .. Ever .. We will be seeing Ben getvery emotional .. More than most guys would .. The switch happened several months later .. It looks like Ben is must closing the door of the limo .. LUCUS .. Poster did a voice analysis .. bens mother
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
Sarah, you are raising very valid points, and thank you for sharing them esp. as a newbie! The beauty of sleuthing is that it leans on asking hard questions that sometimes fly in the face of the spoilers. Good sleuthing requires continuous questioning of everything seen, heard, and crafted; weighing things as objectively as possible; and then providing proof for the way things go down. It was how Brad's foiler was unearthed and how the Chres crew knew that Chris was F1.
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It's what makes this board great! Welcome , and please keep sharing your thoughts with us.
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I don't know if this has ben mentioned or if this is the right thread but I just noticed on Instagram that Lauren liked two pictures of the us weekly magazine cover that mentioned Ben and putting "her" through hell
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
Lauren was far too eager to find a way to watch while she was in Mexico to be a spurned f2 - as many have said upthread- the Mesnick is the meltdown on the rail.
IMO (and I have no proof) her family travels quite a bit- together. With Lauren and her sister both working for the airline, travel isn't too costly.... but considering their pictures were at the Halekulani on Oahu, which is one of the most exclusive hotels on the island, I think her family can afford the travel they do. They are just a close family IMO.
IMO (and I have no proof) her family travels quite a bit- together. With Lauren and her sister both working for the airline, travel isn't too costly.... but considering their pictures were at the Halekulani on Oahu, which is one of the most exclusive hotels on the island, I think her family can afford the travel they do. They are just a close family IMO.
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She liked them because they were posted by the bikini company from which she got that bikini she was wearing.
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Again, IMO, as with most clues, Lauren's vacays with family could be interpreted either way. She's reaching out for fam support when heartbroken. OR she is enjoying time with fam before her life becomes a media circus with the post FRC media tour.
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
As far as I have seen they've only been on two trips. She's traveled home a few times but that's not out of the ordinary. My family travels a lot. I'm not running from a heartbreak. Lol
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jcrbil wrote:Lauren was far too eager to find a way to watch while she was in Mexico to be a spurned f2 - as many have said upthread- the Mesnick is the meltdown on the rail.
IMO (and I have no proof) her family travels quite a bit- together. With Lauren and her sister both working for the airline, travel isn't too costly.... but considering their pictures were at the Halekulani on Oahu, which is one of the most exclusive hotels on the island, I think her family can afford the travel they do. They are just a close family IMO.
Her recent trip to Hawaii was for her dad to attend a medical conference .. Where they were
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Well it appears that JoJo was away with her family around xmas.
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
"This is the biggest mistake I've made" part is dubbed in. I don't think he actually said it at that time. It's a different vocal tone from Ben's dialogue around it.SarahD wrote:
- I can't fit the phrase "saying goodbye to her doesn't feel right and it's the biggest mistake I have made" except if a switch indeed happens
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
For me the biggest reason I don't think there's a switch (changing from f1 to the f2) is because they'd never hint at it in the previews if it were true. They would love nothing more than to have everyone, including RS, believe that Lauren is the f1 and then have Ben pick Jojo. JMO
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