The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

Like I said I don't think so but we will find out soon

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^This was one of ITMs during FD. She looks pretty happy. And like the Lauren we have seen most of the season. 

This ITM is puzzling me:

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Lauren does not look the same here ^ Something about her face looks different to me. Maybe it's the make up but especially the eyes look different. This looks like post-show Lauren, the Lauren that I have seen on SM after filming. I'm not implying she has had work done. But her post-show pictures seem to me like she has enhanced how she applies make-up, etc. IMO, post-show SM, she looks even prettier than before. 

I guess what I am speculating is that these very tearful "what if he loves JoJo, too" ITMs were done after filming. And if they were, it could imply that Ben did fall for JoJo. I agree that many things point to Lauren being F1. No denying that. But we sleuth anyway.



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Just pondering.

Idk she still looks the same to me just her hair is parted different. Her face still looks the same.

agentcurls wrote:

2observe wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:


Ben already happily said, no switch. He was confident of his final choice . If he called Jo back, how is that confident ? Imo, it doesn't, and it didn't happen with a change of heart in any way.

Company line.  Remember that Ben said that he chose the woman that he knew he could not live without.  So, imo Ben realized that he couldn't live without Jojo once he let her go.  

I know it appears he has had his heart set on Lauren all season. And perhaps he really CAN'T live without her.
But it does seems like he has had a very hard time letting JoJo go, too...especially after that HTD.

I'm not a psychologist but it would appear that Ben's increase in feelings might be driven by his fear of rejection. Either that or imo, much of his and Jo's relationship is on the cutting room floor and had to be hidden with Olivia drama.

She puts her hair on the right usually but regarding the one she's crying, they're on her left side.
And her cheeks are fuller, her cheekbones are not so apparent than they used to be, like she gained some weight.

Sorry for double post. Agent I thought the exact same thing about Lauren's ITMs being post FRC while watching this episode. I still think she is Ben's F1 but I do think these were filmed after she found out about his love for Jo.

2observe wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Do we have that link? I totally missed that. Thanks!

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/user/tvtymes/videos

Check out the video for Episode 11 Previews for FRC

GA, this one isn't the one where Chris H. asked Lauren if she was ready to be Ben's wife.  I watched several videos so I'm still looking for it.  

That video is so Painful.  The emotions of Ben, Lauren and JoJo are so real and so intense.  They were all so invested....

JMO..besides having the hots for her..JoJo was often his sounding board with whom he expressed his fears and frustrations throughout the season..allowing him to be most like himself per Ben. She often reassured him that he was doing well and everything would be ok. Sharing like that creates intimacy and a bond.

The ILYs aside, I suspect that's why the blindside will also be very hurtful to her.

Seabear wrote:

2observe wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Do we have that link? I totally missed that. Thanks!

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/user/tvtymes/videos

Check out the video for Episode 11 Previews for FRC

GA, this one isn't the one where Chris H. asked Lauren if she was ready to be Ben's wife.  I watched several videos so I'm still looking for it.  

That video is so Painful.  The emotions of Ben, Lauren and JoJo are so real and so intense.  They were all so invested....

Did you notice that Ben "appeared" to sort of distance himself with Lauren when he told her he loved you BUT his head was all over the place (paraphasing)? Did you also notice how Lauren bit her lip when he said it?

Regarding last picture from Lauren (black top), it looks like she's been crying quite a bit : red eyes, red nose... You don't look like that with only emotion and anxiety, concern. She did cry, and for a bit a time ...IMO

Admins... I am not sure I am allowed to express this opinion so you can warn me or have me delete this...

But I thought the the last two seasons at this time, the last few episodes, that there might be some "plants" from the show putting out all kinds of scenarios, to throw off the sleuthers here.  It seems that if the show seems pretty obvious, then there are lots of conspiracy theories to cause doubt.    Certainly the show did a great job of foiling all the spoilers during Des and Chris's season.  But usually it is fairy obvious where the story is going.  Anyone else wonder about this.  Or perhaps I am giving this site too much credit, but I think "people" from the show read this site... All just my opinions!!!  Sleuth on...

But aren't previews designed to slant things? Like how I thought one of the ily's from Ben during FD previews didn't sound romantic , but in the context of the show , it made more sense. What I'm learning is F1 in previews is mostly hidden. I think Lauren's crying in her PI is in response to Ben telling her on their LCD that he's conflicted . His mind is in thousand places. She's understanding that he could love another ...more. She just doesn't know how things will turn out. Imo