The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

GuardianAngel wrote:I have not seen any proof or read any posts that mention Ben being in Hawaii. If that's the case, please provide the source in order to prevent inaccurate information being repeated. TYIA!

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NCGalBecca wrote:What really chaps me is that he was often turning to JoJo for counsel about the whole experience, i.e. they talked about the difficulty in having to eliminate the girls. On that pig date he asked her how to handle it and navigate the awkward situation.  Therefore, I can imagine how she could have hoped that it was a quid pro quo kind of thing, i.e. that he wouldn't hurt her unnecessarily because they'd discussed it and were confidentes, in general.

I pulled this post over from the Screencaps thread.

Jo was the counselor this season. We witness her numerous times listening to the other contestants--Caila and Joobs in episode 3, Olivia in episode 5--or giving them comfort--Lauren in episode 6, Becca and Emily in episode 7. Weirdly, for her being younger, it at times felt like Ben may have seen in Jo traits of his mom with whom he's really close. We're often drawn to people who resemble our caregivers, for better or worse.

Speaking of his mom, there was a hint left in JoJo's date where Ben wishes for "a guide" to help him sort out his love for the two women. I'm thinking that guide is either just his mom or his parents. Ben sees this decision as one that impacts his family. His mom has been featured since the premeire and then again in Warsaw. We saw her response to Emily and then Ben's subsequent dismissal. That elimination also featured reflection from JoJo that almost felt like foreshadowing: Emily thought that she was going to have a great date and receive the reassurance that she needed only to be sent home.

I'm still wading through the edit of this season and am on the fence. I'm glad that the board is really digging in to find the clues that explain the season. As for Ben, he has two very kind, beautiful, generous women as his F2. He really can't go wrong with either of them.

provenceguy wrote:Gawd, I hope I am not like my m-in-law....

tennischick80 wrote:Also, how do we know Lauren isn't anything like his mother? I think it is a bit myopic to assume she isn't or is. I think they showed Jojo in this light so that it makes it all the worse that she's getting sent home. Jojo has had a spotless edit. She's going to be the victim. She had a clue until the end when she sent caution to the wind because Ben gave her every hope in the world. She took a huge risk. She has stones. I give her that much! I do think she's okay, but will play it up at the AFTR (maybe shed tears), but then she'll leave it as, "I wish you and Lauren the best." JMO.