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Post by GuardianAngel Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:54 pm

Do we have that link? I totally missed that. Thanks!


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Post by agentcurls Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:56 pm

2observe wrote:
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My observation of the Preview of the FRC.  When Ben was coming taking about the woman he wanted to marry, he mentioned that he didn't want to lose her and then pulled out his cellphone.  My question was, why did he think that he may lose Lauren?  But, it made sense to me if he was referring to Jojo and she had just left.  That's just one way of looking at it, imo.


Ben already happily said, no switch. He was confident of his final choice . If he called Jo back, how is that confident ? Imo, it doesn't, and it didn't happen with a change of heart in any way.
Company line.  Remember that Ben said that he chose the woman that he knew he could not live without.  So, imo Ben realized that he couldn't live without Jojo once he let her go.  
I know it appears he has had his heart set on Lauren all season. And perhaps he really CAN'T live without her.
But it does seems like he has had a very hard time letting JoJo go, too...especially after that HTD.
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Post by nannymargie Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:57 pm

Mommyof1 wrote:All this speculation about the FRC phone call reminds me of all the hoopla during Jake' s season of Ali returning to win Jake back.  There was a theory of her returning in a helicopter at the FRC.  I have said it before, but I believe Ben was still conflicted during MTP, but he will have clarity by the FRC and will be ready to propose.  He most likely will call his parents just as he did at the M&G.  Will we see it?  I think so, because they chose to show us calling his parents at the opening of the show, so they will most likely show him calling them again to close out the show.  Jmho.  

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:57 pm

Mommyof1 wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
2observe wrote:snipped
No, I see him letting Jojo go and then starts really thinking about things before Lauren arrives and he begins to realize that he can't let Jojo go, so he calls his/her handler (maybe??) to stop Jojo before she gets to far.  In the meantime, Lauren shows up and Chris H. makes a point of asking Lauren if she is ready to be Ben's wife, which would make her believe that she is F1.  To me, this is where the "blindsided" comes into play.  As always, it's just my opinion.

Does CH actually say that? I don't recall him ever saying that. Interesting speculation.

Yes, CH did ask Lauren that before he walked her to the RC.

It was before the FD RC.

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Post by Mommyof2 Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:58 pm

sde1041 wrote:
Mommyof1 wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:

Does CH actually say that? I don't recall him ever saying that. Interesting speculation.

Yes, CH did ask Lauren that before he walked her to the RC.

It was before the FD RC.

Correct!
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Post by Al Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:59 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:Do we have that link? I totally missed that. Thanks!
I think this is what you're asking about? Around :30 second mark http://www.eonline.com/ca/videos/246312/the-bachelor-s-ben-higgins-is-engaged

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:00 pm

Technically it isn't a switch if he does it before FRC end. Hence 3/4 Mesnick ?

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Post by 2observe Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:02 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:Do we have that link? I totally missed that. Thanks!
Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/user/tvtymes/videos

Check out the video for Episode 11 Previews for FRC

GA, this one isn't the one where Chris H. asked Lauren if she was ready to be Ben's wife. I watched several videos so I'm still looking for it.


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Post by Mommyof2 Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:03 pm

agentcurls wrote:
2observe wrote:
ForeverLove wrote:


Ben already happily said, no switch. He was confident of his final choice . If he called Jo back, how is that confident ? Imo, it doesn't, and it didn't happen with a change of heart in any way.
Company line.  Remember that Ben said that he chose the woman that he knew he could not live without.  So, imo Ben realized that he couldn't live without Jojo once he let her go.  
I know it appears he has had his heart set on Lauren all season. And perhaps he really CAN'T live without her.
But it does seems like he has had a very hard time letting JoJo go, too...especially after that HTD.

Which most likely will explain the 3/4 Mesnick.
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Post by Crazylady29 Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:03 pm

I thought the mesnick reference was the leaning over the railing crying which imo he does because he hurt jojo but I don't think he regrets it like Jason did
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Post by Guest Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:05 pm

Crazylady29 wrote:I thought the mesnick reference was the leaning over the railing crying which imo he does because he hurt jojo but I don't think he regrets it like Jason did

It most likely does but the sleuthing must go on . In time it will be clear.

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:06 pm

Crazylady29 wrote:I thought the mesnick reference was the leaning over the railing crying which imo he does because he hurt jojo but I don't think he regrets it like Jason did

It could be this OR the last minute change of mind before ending. IDK

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