The Bachelorette Australia - Sam Frost - Season 1 - Episode Discussions -*Spoilers - Sleuthing*

well then. no problem.. lets take it as a HEA monolog, shall we?

HEA wrote:IMO... looks very much like how she may be with her brothers... this says friend zone for me. Kissing someone on his lips when he is still talking means that she did not listen which is never a good sign in a relationship from my perspective.

she spent a great time, I had no doubt but nothing so far make me think that beside this great experience, they had deep conversations, they know each other or anything that hint me that they are building solid foundation.

if it is a nono for a guy to kiss a girl without her permission, why is is "cute" if a woman does the same with a guy?  

Didn't Sam Wood do that often. His motto was kiss now and talk later.

I am only talking first kiss here

after that, the red flag is gone and turned green .... unless the person say clearly NO. of course.

You know lots of romantic movies have this type of scene. Girl nervously talking and man scoops in and kisses her. The reverse just happened here.

Sam kissed Richie while he was saying thank you to her for the rose (for the umpteenth time) not during an in-depth conversation.
They had already talked for hours previously.
Based on what Sam herself said, I will go with it was natural and she was very smitten (her own words).

iamreal2u wrote:You know lots of romantic  movies have this type of scene.  Girl  nervously talking and man scoops in and kisses her.  The reverse just happened here.

yeah... the feminist in me cringe all the freaking time
many people are still thinking that the man is the chef of family and has to bring a salary and the role of a woman is a stay home mother
I have nothing against a mother at home whatsoever. I think it is the most difficult role a human can ever have.
my point is that the big majority think a man is different from a woman regarding some rights
But where I am coming from, the role is 50/50 between a man and a woman.
if a man must wait the authorization to kiss a woman.... why on earth it is not the same for the guy?

ps: subject closed. it was another monolog of mine....

iamreal2u wrote:You know lots of romantic  movies have this type of scene.  Girl  nervously talking and man scoops in and kisses her.  The reverse just happened here.

Exactly. Sam is that type of person. It is who she is. It's why Lisa said that Sam was herself with Richie and it was "just real". Lisa, Osher, and Sam and countless others described the kiss in glowing terms. All know Sam or, in Sam's case, is Sam herself and she was rocking back and forth grinning away and "smitten" as she said.

If Sam only felt friendship for Richie she certainly would not have grabbed him by the face to kiss him and then kiss him again when he said "oh wow" after the kiss. Doesn't mean I see him as F1 but there's a large range between friendzone and F1.

Here's the kiss Sam initiated and the video that Bette Aussie captioned on their FB account with "love blossoming"

https://www.facebook.com/BacheloretteAU/videos/vb.530123157132143/714110372066753/?type=2&theater

HEA wrote:

in_denial wrote:

HEA wrote:made a little fun with the first kisses

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Sam is not even touching Sasha during that kiss. Hmm.

i watched the kiss betwen her and sasha versus the one with richie and michael a lot

it became more awkward the more i watched it. she kept drinking, even seveal sips at a time, he even asked her if she was uncomfortable, she kept her arms crossed which is never a good thing, she was so not natural. she was stiff and gave forced smiles and finally when he told her he wanted to kiss her, i think she was releave and said: you should. she never touched him or his face like she usually do.

I read somewhere that he asked the crew to find a quiet place because he wanted to kiss her..... if this is the case, I bet the crew told her. and how weird and awkward to go to a place where you know for sure the guy is going to make a move with a crew around.

yuck

Instead for me it was so obvious she was just wanting for him to stop talking and get into business!..

That is why the conversation was so awkward and she was SOO nervous and made all those faces!... He was not moving fast enough, trying to go slow and play the gentleman!
But I think it is obvious that when she went into that living room to get him again it was not for CHATTING! Both were just wanting to get into the kissing badly since their tango date!  ...

Didn't you see when she told him COME HERE and went like she wanted to eat his mouth!    She was not crossing her arms then!  I think when she had he arms crossed its because she was SOOO in trance with his kiss, that she could not move! :strings1

Well.. that is how it was on the episode played in my computer, in my very personal reality! :cutesmile!:

yeah. i certainly understand that she wanted to cut the crap out of him and go straight to business eh?

About the way they are placed at the table

123
456

1 michael
2 richie
3 sasha
4 alex
5 sam
6 dave

From F1 to F5....

just a thought here

AllAboutLove wrote:Referring to what Osher said above that only Richie could have done that date with Sam it makes me sad.
If only Richie could be that way with Sam then, to me, anyone other than Richie is not the person Sam could be that happy/fun self she is.
Her choice of course, but sad to me that she won't be with someone who could be how Richie is and be playful.
It's why I see them as a perfect match.  

I completely 100% agree. The level of comfort and fun is amazing. Hopefully Sam sees this. I do wonder though. It will be interesting to see if she pulls Richie away for a chat and we can get a sense of their body language. Can I just say though that Nothing was going to stop Sam from kissing Richie. Not even a half finished sentence. Lol

HEA wrote:About the way they are placed at the table

123
456

1 michael
2 richie
3 sasha
4 alex
5 sam
6 dave

From F1 to F5....

just a thought here

Not sure that this can be correct or read anything into it as hasn't someone somewhere on this forum already "guaranteed" that Michael is NOT F1....