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Post by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:19 pm

Sunnyandhappy wrote:
HEA wrote:About the way they are placed at the table

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1 michael
2 richie
3 sasha
4 alex
5 sam
6 dave

From F1 to F5....

just a thought here

Not sure that this can be correct or read anything into it as hasn't someone somewhere on this forum already "guaranteed" that Michael is NOT F1....


there is nothing whatsoever guaranteed that michael is not F1.   The Bachelorette Australia - Sam Frost - Season 1 - Episode Discussions -*Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Page 68 2498057887
nothing has been out from producers or medias.
no sleuthing has proved that michael is not F1

in fact, pretty much the contrary because he is the ONLY ONE who has way more S/C versus richie and sasha. The Bachelorette Australia - Sam Frost - Season 1 - Episode Discussions -*Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Page 68 2498057887

so Michael has the equal chances as richie or sasha to be F1.
It is only a matter of favorites, nothing has been proved on anybody yet.

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Post by Sundy Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:34 pm

HEA wrote:
Sunnyandhappy wrote:
HEA wrote:About the way they are placed at the table

123
456

1 michael
2 richie
3 sasha
4 alex
5 sam
6 dave

From F1 to F5....

just a thought here

Not sure that this can be correct or read anything into it as hasn't someone somewhere on this forum already "guaranteed" that Michael is NOT F1....


there is nothing whatsoever guaranteed that michael is not F1.   The Bachelorette Australia - Sam Frost - Season 1 - Episode Discussions -*Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Page 68 2498057887
nothing has been out from producers or medias.
no sleuthing has proved that michael is not F1

in fact, pretty much the contrary because he is the ONLY ONE who has way more S/C versus richie and sasha. The Bachelorette Australia - Sam Frost - Season 1 - Episode Discussions -*Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Page 68 2498057887

so Michael has the equal chances as richie or sasha to be F1.
It is only a matter of favorites, nothing has been proved on anybody yet.

I agree. Michael is the only one that we are confident in making top 2. I just don't think that the table placing of the top 5 would indicate the order.
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Post by AllAboutLove Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:47 pm

I can't give the actual details but I can guarantee Michael is not F1.
As always, this does not need to be believed at all. Sleuthing always continues. yes
I will say though that it has made it easier for me to narrow between Sasha and Richie though.
I still see Sasha as F1 but have that slim hope for Richie.
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:56 pm

well I do not believe in rumors for 100% gold proof
especially this season when only 5 people know who is the F1
so unless one of this 5 person spoke... i do not see how we can be sure michael is not F1

we shall see.

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Post by Sunnyandhappy Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:04 am

Thank you @AAL I knew someone had said Michael was not F1 and I believe you given I am trusting you have nothing to gain by saying this and outing it out there.

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:10 am

Just out of interest - how do we know that Michael has definitely made it to F2. Is it the screen caps? I am pretty sure that he is in the final 3 - but this is based more on instinct than anything else.

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Post by Sundy Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:18 am

^ he has (to my mind) 4 seperate screencaps left. Brisbane river, spa, aquarium and rafting. It could be - Brisbane river (I'm saying HTD) spa and aquarium (possibly final three date) and Rafting (possible LCD) or Brisbane river (HTD) rafting (possibly final three date - but I don't know if this location wise is even possible) and spa and aquarium (LCD). If they squeeze a single date in somewhere then this theory goes out the window. Who knows. It's all very exciting though
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:20 am

Saw you guys discussed about the kisses between Sam & her F3.

I only watched once of each scene, and personally think the kiss with Richie was the most neutral and sweet. Sam just can't hold herself back and went in for it, and the ITM afterward was cute too.

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Post by HodanG Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:53 am

Michael is probably the only one I'm confident that makes it to F2, I don't think Sam would put he 2 contenders in F2. It makes it harder for her to send one of them home and break her heart. Sasha for F1, Michael F2 and Richie F3 (I still have some hope hat maaaybe he will be F1)
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:34 am

AllAboutLove wrote:
Sundy wrote:Does anyone else think that after Sam and Sashas date production realised that they were going to have trouble getting the boys to kiss Sam? Prompted Sasha to talk about it with her at the mansion hence kiss. With Michael she gave him a card to give him the green light and she initiated the kiss with Richie. With the exception of Davey, who tricked her into a kiss the guys are all being gentlemen
Yup. It was definitely set up for Sasha to kiss Sam.
Also set up for Michael and Sam to kiss with the little cards.

With Richie, I can see why Lisa said that while Sasha's kiss was more passionate, Sam's kiss with Richie was "just real".
Because Sam just went for it - no set up or cards/cues needed. And she kissed Richie while he was still talking  giggling  
Even Sam in PI said, "It only felt natural to go in for the kiss and I'm certainly very smitten".
And Osher even talked about Sam and Richie's kiss:
news.com.au: Sam called her date with Richie a 10 out of 10. Was it a good test to see if they can get along?

Osher: “I think it was. It was also a case of, ‘Can you play along.’ Sam obviously enjoys being playful. Could Davey have done that? Probably not. Could Dave have done that? Probably not. I don’t think Sasha could have done that. But Richard was able to be playful. It was a great fit for the two of them and it was great to watch. It was a great idea for a date and Sam went above and beyond putting it together. And who knew Richie could breakdance? And what a kiss! Sam just grabbed his face and went for it.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/why-we-didnt-see-davey-leave-the-bachelorette-mansion-osher-gunsberg-explains-all/story-fn8yvfst-1227562936264

I just wonder why Osher did not mention if Michael would have played along? Maybe because he would have and loved it too? I disagree that Richie is the only one who could have played along and made Sam laugh. She laughs around Michael and Davey would have had a blast doing this.
Lets not forget Osher's blatant lie about Eve been on the HTD last season. Osher is paid to misdirect just as CH does, his word isnt gold. Jmo

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Post by GuardianAngel Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:01 am

Please ensure, it's important to use IMO, what one may believe may not be the same for someone else. If you do not believe that Michael is not the F1 then it should be followed by IMO. If you do not believe there is any evidence for a F2 or F3 or whatever, then it should be followed by IMO. What might not be evidence to you, may be confirmation for someone else.

IF someone provides information from a source they cannot share, it's everyone's choice to believe or not believe.

We do not discredit the person providing the information. TY


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Post by marysegap Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:11 am

AllAboutLove wrote:Sam kissed Richie while he was saying thank you to her for the rose (for the umpteenth time) not during an in-depth conversation.
They had already talked for hours previously.
Based on what Sam herself said, I will go with it was natural and she was very smitten (her own words).

But to me it was like a kiss of appreciation... When I meet little boys that are very cute and funny, I always say I am smitten! .. And it does just mean I like them a lot in very tender way! bestbud!
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