The Bachelorette Australia - Sam Frost - Season 1 - Episode Discussions -*Spoilers - Sleuthing*

Dirty Street Pie wrote:I loved this episode, Sam looked so happy with Richie on their date. Still don't know if this is setting him up as F1, or as next Bachie?

natik wrote:Also no 1 on 1 date for Michael only some quality time after the group dates. It would be weird if he is in the finale with Sasha because that would be too obvious on who she picks. Obviously Sasha.

AllAboutLove wrote:

HEA wrote:do we have proof that he was home july 10 or is it assumptions?
do we know for sure finale was july 10?

Even if there were proof it won't be believed necessarily. It is always that way each season.
As was sleuthed, Michael posted on his FB on July 10 1am in the morning EST (so 3pm in that day) that he was going home (to Brisbane) and Sam's brother was in NZ on July 8-9 for MTP.

Aunties_Love wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

HEA wrote:do we have proof that he was home july 10 or is it assumptions?
do we know for sure finale was july 10?

Even if there were proof it won't be believed necessarily. It is always that way each season.
As was sleuthed, Michael posted on his FB on July 10 1am in the morning EST (so 3pm in that day) that he was going home (to Brisbane) and Sam's brother was in NZ on July 8-9 for MTP.

So if both of the bolded are in play, doesn't it seem that Michael may even be F3 and not in the F2?

AmyB wrote:

Dirty Street Pie wrote:I loved this episode, Sam looked so happy with Richie on their date. Still don't know if this is setting him up as F1, or as next Bachie?

I would be perfectly happy with either

AllAboutLove wrote:

Sundy wrote:AAL how convinced are you that Richie is F3. I currently can place them. Could be anyone's IMO

I know for sure Michael is not F1 but I am not 100% that he is F2. However, given that he was back on SM July 10 and posted he was coming home it makes me think he is F2 and makes the most sense to me given, if Richie is F3, that Sam wouldn't put Richie through a FRC.

Another thing I have seen is someone hashtagged Richie on IG comments #3rdplace. A lot of Richie's edit can fall into anywhere from F1-F3 and I can justify it for any of the spots. If I just looked at Sam liking those pics of Richie and her brother faving that tweet of Richie winning I would say Richie is F1.

However, when I look at everything else, and specifically what Bette Aussie official SM is doing and that producers are following Sasha and vice-versa and him posting pics with Sam and him from SD that are more intimate as well as magazine covers that spoil the show (even with untruths, they are usually accurate on who is on the cover photo with lead) and that Dave and Davey have been said by people that met him that Sasha wins then all signs point to Sasha as F1.

Plus, if there is a shock exit I don't see it being Sasha since people expect him to be the shock exit/elimination. I see that shock as being Richie. If he already looks anxious the way he has before his own SD then I expect him to be devastated and blindsided if he is F3. :/

natik wrote:I think the helicopter plus the walk in the forest plus somewhere swimming is Michael`s first 1 on 1 date. The rafting plus picnic and then the evening portion with the dinner near the aquarium is FD. The screen with the bridge is HTD.

The skydiving is FD.
Sasha and vineyard is LCD.

Skiing is FD.
I think Richie swimming with Sam is LCD.

I don't know what to think so I am just going to post my date/episode highlights instead. 1. When Richie is talking about the date and looses it in fits of laughter 2. When they are in the car and she starts slapping him and they get the giggles and Richie almost snorts 3. When Richie says I've played bingo a 1000 times but how do you play bingo 4. Back at the house when she is talking about him and he puts his fist to his mouth and says 'oh Sam' how genuine and tender was that moment 5. The kiss. Enough said 6. Sam realisation that she can be happy 7. Alex saying he trust Sam's decision - he's lovely too 8. Sam's face in the car as she is leaving. There was a power and resolve on her face that I don't think was about Davey, it was a determination that we have not seen so far in this series wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

Sundy wrote:AAL how convinced are you that Richie is F3. I currently can place them. Could be anyone's IMO

I know for sure Michael is not F1 but I am not 100% that he is F2. However, given that he was back on SM July 10 and posted he was coming home it makes me think he is F2 and makes the most sense to me given, if Richie is F3, that Sam wouldn't put Richie through a FRC.

Another thing I have seen is someone hashtagged Richie on IG comments #3rdplace. A lot of Richie's edit can fall into anywhere from F1-F3 and I can justify it for any of the spots. If I just looked at Sam liking those pics of Richie and her brother faving that tweet of Richie winning I would say Richie is F1.

However, when I look at everything else, and specifically what Bette Aussie official SM is doing and that producers are following Sasha and vice-versa and him posting pics with Sam and him from SD that are more intimate as well as magazine covers that spoil the show (even with untruths, they are usually accurate on who is on the cover photo with lead) and that Dave and Davey have been said by people that met him that Sasha wins then all signs point to Sasha as F1.

Plus, if there is a shock exit I don't see it being Sasha since people expect him to be the shock exit/elimination. I see that shock as being Richie. If he already looks anxious the way he has before his own SD then I expect him to be devastated and blindsided if he is F3. :/

I have been thinking outside of the box here and likely WAAAAY outside, but what IF:

We see that Sasha is being promoted by the official SM(facebook and twitter) as IF Sam is right for Sasha.  Maybe they are doing that cause he IS actually NOT the F1 and they are trying to promote him and get a jump on HIS season as the next Bachie?  I got to thinking.  There have been many comments made on the official and unoffical pages about how Sasha is out getting drunk, hitting on women at casinos and bars.  To me that isn't consistent with a F1 person.  IMO, I am thinking the dark horse of Richie is getting brighter now.  

To me, Sam hadn't talked much about Sasha in ANY ITM's following the ID so am wondering if he's actually NOT the F1.  Something about his edit is ringing true for a F3.  IF he's F3, then it makes a whole lot more sense of how the tweets/FB posts from the official places are making Sasha look great cause THEY are wanting him to represent them.  

Am VERY interested in what everyone thinks.