The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 6 Jun 22nd - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

rosesrREd wrote:

Ariela wrote:

Alanna wrote:It just doesn't stop:

Nick Viall ‏@viallnicholas28 54s54 seconds ago Chicago, IL 
Sex is not shameful. Whether we admit it or not, sex is important part of many serious and meaningful relationships #TheBachelorette

Nick Viall ‏@viallnicholas28 33s33 seconds ago Chicago, IL 
Despite what we have been led to believe, both men & women have an emotional connection to sex that we all should respect.#TheBachelorette

Bolded: Sure, sure....BUT Nick grosses me out, and I never thought of sex as GROSS until he and Kaitlyn slept together.
I don't find him attractive and definitely see how manipulative he is, just like when he had the ATFR rehearsed in telling Andi about sleeping together....He is one slick SOB. Stupid women.[/quo

To each their own.  While Nick was very willing, it was Kaitlyn that pursued this sexapade with him, not the other way around. Also, he didn't tell anyone, and now it seems Shawn also got lucky with Kaitlyn as well.

happygolucky wrote:Nick Viall ‏@viallnicholas28 23 minutes ago - Chicago, IL
If I kissed and told my guess is the mood of that group date would have been much much different #TheBachelorette #bachelorette

1) Nick didn't "tell"
2) Nick reported the date ... as all the guys/contestants have to after their 1:1s ...as did Shawn too (when someone said that Shawn had the same "privilege" to have some time alone)
3) Shawn had his 6/7 hours alone with Kaitlyn on their 1:1 the week before ... and I would safely assume, that "you're the one" was said after some deed.

AllAboutLove wrote:Are we sure that Shawn and Kaitlyn didn't sleep together before she did with Nick?

Because the way he is acting and him saying they had offcamera time makes me think that they may have and it wasn't caught on camera/microphone.

He has acted like she belongs to him in a way and so it would make sense if they were the first to sleep together. jmo

AllAboutLove wrote:Are we sure that Shawn and Kaitlyn didn't sleep together before she did with Nick?

Because the way he is acting and him saying they had offcamera time makes me think that they may have and it wasn't caught on camera/microphone.

He has acted like she belongs to him in a way and so it would make sense if they were the first to sleep together. jmo

lleyki wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I don't see anything wrong with those tweets. They are supportive.

Agreed but frankly I have long accepted that views on Nick will always be very divisive because I'm seeing all this negative comments about Nick and tweets that I thought were nothing but supportive and more talk of how creepy and awful and a loser he is, yet I watched this episode and what I took from it is that I find SHAWN creepy. I'm sorry, while I'm sure the producers manipulate the hell out of these contestants, I think they clearly pick up on how to manipulate them based on their personality.

In other words, they must have realized that Shawn is clearly very territorial and has a bit of angry, jealous streak. And it's interesting to me that Nick never gets any pass on editing (look how so many were quick to run with the idea that he told the guys what happened when it's obviously clear he didn't even if the editing tried to make it that way) but others get passes on producer manipulation, editing, etc. Shawn again frankly freaked me out this episode. Yes it is not fun to watch someone you're interested in make out or like other people but if you feel that way you don't sign up for The Bachelorette. His freakout over Jared getting the group date was ridiculous and reeks of the same obnoxious entitlement that Britt had that blew up her chances with Chris.

If Kaitlyn really did pick him as seems very clear, just like I knew things were on borrowed time with Andi and Josh because they were both such strong, "want things my way" personalities, I don't believe for a second Kaitlyn and Shawn will last. And I'm tired of all the "poor Shawn" and insinuations that she needed to practically get forgiveness from him and he has such a burden to forgive her. He went on a show to compete with other guys for a woman. That means until she made that final decision, she was beholden to any one guy.

And frankly, I do agree with others that Kaitlyn looked fine on the group date and so I don't think she felt particularly bad about sleeping with Nick. Yes there were some comments by her about the other guys but who knows when that was filmed. And judging by her full melt down about making a mistake and what she was wearing and the conversation that's to come with her and Shawn next week, I'm thinking her guilt and shame only comes after whatever happens with them and if that's what happen, I'm sorry again, I'm definitely not impressed with the possibility of those two ending up together. Because it's one thing if Kaitlyn felt bad and horrible after sleeping with Nick but if she only feels bad about herself after something Shawn says to her, then that's not someone she needs to be with in my opinion.

happydays wrote:Interesting that Sharleen favourited Andi's tweet about not kissing and telling

mercieme wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Are we sure that Shawn and Kaitlyn didn't sleep together before she did with Nick?

Because the way he is acting and him saying they had offcamera time makes me think that they may have and it wasn't caught on camera/microphone.

He has acted like she belongs to him in a way and so it would make sense if they were the first to sleep together. jmo

AAL I don't think so just based on Kaitlyn's reaction to fearing that Shawn might leave her over what happened with Nick. Maybe in my mind I would think Kaitlyn would consider that it's a level plain field if she did with both Shawn and Nick pre-FS and not feel so bad. So hopefully Kaitlyn addresses it on GMA tomorrow or in her blog at some point. But some other posters have also said they think she did with Shawn before hand.