Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion

by Guest Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:24 pm

Titou wrote:
richlp wrote:Someone asking me a question, puts me under NO obligation to answer it...

when I signed up here... it said that name was already taken...

by Guest Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:25 pm

richlp wrote:Someone asking me a question, puts me under NO obligation to answer it...

That is so true, but and this is a but after going through such a journey and someone asking you question, I would like an answer and I would have given one, part and parcel of different cultures and opinions. I dont blame her if she doesnt feel like answering and I am not judging her for it either.

by ironcat Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:26 pm

reason wrote:
ironcat wrote:I would never judge anyone based on how they react to being dumped at the FRC. The whole experience, which at this point has been going on almost 2 months, is a huge mind****, as we know, and everyone reacts to shock and disappointment differently. Kudos to those who are able to compose themselves and handle it with aplomb and grace, but if you can't and fall apart, or throw a hissy fit, or storm out, so be it. None of us have been there, we are in no position to proclaim with total certainty that we would have behaved any better.

I was never judging Bevin. Andy did ask her how she was feeling she never answer. In my CULTURE her not answering is disrespectful, and shows a lack of respect for the person asking the question. I am saying if Ben walks away (which I dont know because I was not there using my imagination from her crying jog and her words said then) and not answer or give her closure as she seems to want with bentley, then he losses respect for her at that moment in time, that would be how it would be seen in my culture. I can understand everyones point of view I would so hope if you can understand others.

I wasn't responding to your post, I was just making a general statement. I certainly respect your culture's interpretation of walking away without speaking, but unless we know that Ben's or Bevin's culture is the same as yours, we don't know what she meant, or what he meant if he indeed did do this, and can't assume he was purposely showing Ashley disrespect by doing so. And since I don't know enough about any of these people personally, I just prefer to steer clear from trying to glean anything about their character, culture, or mood based on how they react to rejection.

by Guest Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:29 pm

If you notice I said I was using my imagination from the few words she said when she was crying and her actions of her running it seems after someone. I never assume I was never there it is just a theory and my imagination working over time LOL.

by Guest Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:30 pm

reason wrote:
richlp wrote:Someone asking me a question, puts me under NO obligation to answer it...

That is so true, but and this is a but after going through such a journey and someone asking you question, I would like an answer and I would have given one, part and parcel of different cultures and opinions. I dont blame her if she doesnt feel like answering and I am not judging her for it either.

Let me preface, by saying that this has nothing to do with you or your own convictions, reason, which I respect completely.

But... given the 'process' I had just been through, and feeling at best mislead... when asked a question about it, my response would be "pound sand"...

...guess I wouldn't make a very good contestant on this show... lol

by Shelby Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:34 pm

richlp wrote:
Titou wrote:
richlp wrote:Someone asking me a question, puts me under NO obligation to answer it...

when I signed up here... it said that name was already taken...

i bet! LOL

by Guest Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:35 pm

Neither you are I Richlp, I would kick the man ass pardon the punt. If near a pool push his ass in that would be my answer. ROTFL

by northernviewer Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:45 pm

richlp wrote:
reason wrote:
richlp wrote:Someone asking me a question, puts me under NO obligation to answer it...

That is so true, but and this is a but after going through such a journey and someone asking you question, I would like an answer and I would have given one, part and parcel of different cultures and opinions. I dont blame her if she doesnt feel like answering and I am not judging her for it either.

Let me preface, by saying that this has nothing to do with you or your own convictions, reason, which I respect completely.

But... given the 'process' I had just been through, and feeling at best mislead... when asked a question about it, my response would be "pound sand"...

...guess I wouldn't make a very good contestant on this show...

I'm guessing that you'd give a very Amanda-like response giggling

by Guest Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:49 pm

I suspect after my first 1 on 1 when Ashley reached over to take food off my plate and drew back a hand with a fork in it... I'd be history...

by Reidiscool Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:52 pm

richlp wrote:I suspect after my first 1 on 1 when Ashley reached over to take food off my plate and drew back a hand with a fork in it... I'd be history...

by Living Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:02 pm

ironcat wrote:
reason wrote:
ironcat wrote:I would never judge anyone based on how they react to being dumped at the FRC. The whole experience, which at this point has been going on almost 2 months, is a huge mind****, as we know, and everyone reacts to shock and disappointment differently. Kudos to those who are able to compose themselves and handle it with aplomb and grace, but if you can't and fall apart, or throw a hissy fit, or storm out, so be it. None of us have been there, we are in no position to proclaim with total certainty that we would have behaved any better.

I was never judging Bevin. Andy did ask her how she was feeling she never answer. In my CULTURE her not answering is disrespectful, and shows a lack of respect for the person asking the question. I am saying if Ben walks away (which I dont know because I was not there using my imagination from her crying jog and her words said then) and not answer or give her closure as she seems to want with bentley, then he losses respect for her at that moment in time, that would be how it would be seen in my culture. I can understand everyones point of view I would so hope if you can understand others.

I wasn't responding to your post, I was just making a general statement. I certainly respect your culture's interpretation of walking away without speaking, but unless we know that Ben's or Bevin's culture is the same as yours, we don't know what she meant, or what he meant if he indeed did do this, and can't assume he was purposely showing Ashley disrespect by doing so. And since I don't know enough about any of these people personally, I just prefer to steer clear from trying to glean anything about their character, culture, or mood based on how they react to rejection.

What!! you dump me, then you ask me how I am feeling. Are you crazy, If I say okay, you do not feel bad, if I say not okay, I look bad. At this point, I have no obligation to even speak to you after you have led me on, then dumped me. So contemptible (especially if they spent the night together), beyond words. After a death, one should know not to ask how are you feeling. It is the same after a dumping. a loss. Very insensitive to ask this question in the first place. I guess she was polite not to answer. He may not have liked what she had to say.

by Living Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:10 pm

bilolo wrote:it would suck if Ben is final 2 and walk away being upset and not saying anything to Ashley
i hope it's not the case, he's a gentleman, a good guy and i don't want him to end his journey with a bad exit

I really do not understand this. You dump me and I'm still supposed to lick your a**. No, I got nothing to say to you at this stage. Will not waste my breath or a minute of my time with you.

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