Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion

Mirzam wrote:

Living wrote:

OK, At episode 3 I deduced JP was not F1, the 2 front runners I could see with the F1 edit were Ames and Ben. I continued checking the others and eliminated accordingly, but I still could not rule out Ames as F1, as I could not determine if he was hidden because he was F1 or because there was no substance to his relationship with Ashley. When Ames left at F4, I only had Ben left in the F1 position. Until he left the show, I would not declare if Ames or Ben was F1. I only said JP was not F1. The stories about Ames could have been smoke for all I knew. Now it is confirmed Ames is off the show. I can declare the F1 as Ben.

The same thing happened last season. Chantal was rulled out as F1 by episode 3 as the F1, and with a dark haired woman SC at SA, I could not rule out Shawntel as F1 as I did not know if though I could see a connection with Brad, if she was hidden because she was F1 or because there was not really a solid relationship building. When Shawntel got eliminated, I could confirm on that day that Emily was F1.

Living, I so remember your process last season. TBH, it annoyed me because I thought you were being pedantic because (IMO) RS had given us the F1 (Chantal) and it was so obvious by the edit it was her and not Emily. How wrong I was, so this season, I am totally going to respect what you have to say. I still think JP is F1, going by what I see on the screen, but if I were Ashley, I would totally go for Ben!

GrahamGal wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:

Living wrote:

LibbyBell wrote:

Tnmomof4 wrote: with the three guys she has left, things aren't quite as smooth. By the end of next week, the order of who's on top will change.

This statement, which of course is meant to make us believe that Ben goes ahead of JP could also mean (since CH is talking about all 3) that because of what Constantine does, Ben goes "on top". Prior to the FD, JP and Constantine were "on top", now JP and Ben are "on top".
After the htd I definitely got the impression that Constantine was her 2nd choice. My unspoiled friend actually was surprised that Ben did not go home last week. Just a thought.

Tnmomof4, this is a good point. i can see that this is how they are spinning the "the order will change".

BTW--

I do not know if you read the original CH wording. He said JP is at the top now but that will change.

Looks like he ends up on top to me Sorry couldn't resist!

Oh Patty!

Living wrote:

GrahamGal wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:

Living wrote:

LibbyBell wrote:

Tnmomof4 wrote: with the three guys she has left, things aren't quite as smooth. By the end of next week, the order of who's on top will change.

This statement, which of course is meant to make us believe that Ben goes ahead of JP could also mean (since CH is talking about all 3) that because of what Constantine does, Ben goes "on top". Prior to the FD, JP and Constantine were "on top", now JP and Ben are "on top".
After the htd I definitely got the impression that Constantine was her 2nd choice. My unspoiled friend actually was surprised that Ben did not go home last week. Just a thought.

Tnmomof4, this is a good point. i can see that this is how they are spinning the "the order will change".

BTW--

I do not know if you read the original CH wording. He said JP is at the top now but that will change.

Looks like he ends up on top to me Sorry couldn't resist!

Oh Patty!

Don't worry, we got smelly dirty tastes on another thread.

Living wrote:

Mirzam wrote:

Living wrote:

OK, At episode 3 I deduced JP was not F1, the 2 front runners I could see with the F1 edit were Ames and Ben. I continued checking the others and eliminated accordingly, but I still could not rule out Ames as F1, as I could not determine if he was hidden because he was F1 or because there was no substance to his relationship with Ashley. When Ames left at F4, I only had Ben left in the F1 position. Until he left the show, I would not declare if Ames or Ben was F1. I only said JP was not F1. The stories about Ames could have been smoke for all I knew. Now it is confirmed Ames is off the show. I can declare the F1 as Ben.

The same thing happened last season. Chantal was rulled out as F1 by episode 3 as the F1, and with a dark haired woman SC at SA, I could not rule out Shawntel as F1 as I did not know if though I could see a connection with Brad, if she was hidden because she was F1 or because there was not really a solid relationship building. When Shawntel got eliminated, I could confirm on that day that Emily was F1.

Living, I so remember your process last season. TBH, it annoyed me because I thought you were being pedantic because (IMO) RS had given us the F1 (Chantal) and it was so obvious by the edit it was her and not Emily. How wrong I was, so this season, I am totally going to respect what you have to say. I still think JP is F1, going by what I see on the screen, but if I were Ashley, I would totally go for Ben!

That is what sleuthing is all about. It is not about following the flow or who I like best, but being true to the edit and SC to find the real truth as to what is being shown.

On the other hand, remembering what you saw on the screen last season that made you choose Chantal wrongly, you still have time to change your mind about JP being F1, since you are aware your process was wrong last time round.

beader wrote:How many times has CH had the F1 in his "5 to watch"? I believe earlier in the season someone figured out Shane was the only one. Ben was in his "5 to watch." Just saying. Ben supporters would say this is one of the CH patterns we disregard. I don't know.

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