Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
Jeepers wrote:It is not an insult when one actually CAN'T find words to say .. Just like Bevins reaction was. Ben may have had/could have the same/similar type reaction as well. Just could not find the words, can't speak in order to hold it together.
Not an insult by a long shot. And BTW she may not have asked a question that needed an answer lol
Jeepers, I think reason is trying to share that in her culture, silence is disrespectful. Let's honor that, even though we may not agree with it.
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
reason wrote:Titou wrote:reason wrote:alsoaktchr wrote:I didn't find it disrespectful when Bevin said nothing after her rejection.... Broke my heart, and I was a Tessa fan...
In my culture it is disrespectful if you dont answer someone back when they speak to you. To me she was saying why waste anymore of my breath on you, you are not worthy of it.
Interesting (and I do not mean it in a sarcastic way at all).
This confirms that because we are all coming from different culture and background and education and experience and age and genre, we all see the same episode differently
In my book, silence is the best response or I would be over dramatic. I learned with years that silence is my BEST FRIEND.
note: recently I was cut out from my job. The RH guy started to say BS of their reasons. I did not say a word beside "when will I receive my last paycheck?"... the guy was litterally sweating in front of me... stupid but I jubilated (SP?) to see him so uncomfortable. In the end what I say or not did not change the issue so why bother and not get some fun from it? I will also add that if the person in front of "you" has an open mind it is fun to confront different opinions but if we know that this person will never accept that you can have a different opinion, why bother?
I might have not explain myself well. I like when Bevin did not answer Andy it was insulting him for the way he treated her and he deserved it. Not answering in my culture = to someone insulting you. She insulted him big time and he truly deserved it. I never like Andy thought he was creepy and not officer and a gentleman so I laugh out loud that night.
ah thank you for the clarification
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
I would never judge anyone based on how they react to being dumped at the FRC. The whole experience, which at this point has been going on almost 2 months, is a huge mind****, as we know, and everyone reacts to shock and disappointment differently. Kudos to those who are able to compose themselves and handle it with aplomb and grace, but if you can't and fall apart, or throw a hissy fit, or storm out, so be it. None of us have been there, we are in no position to proclaim with total certainty that we would have behaved any better.
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
Titou wrote:reason wrote:alsoaktchr wrote:I didn't find it disrespectful when Bevin said nothing after her rejection.... Broke my heart, and I was a Tessa fan...
In my culture it is disrespectful if you dont answer someone back when they speak to you. To me she was saying why waste anymore of my breath on you, you are not worthy of it.
Interesting (and I do not mean it in a sarcastic way at all).
This confirms that because we are all coming from different culture and background and education and experience and age and genre, we all see the same episode differently
In my book, silence is the best response or I would be over dramatic. I learned with years that silence is my BEST FRIEND.
note: recently I was cut out from my job. The RH guy started to say BS of their reasons. I did not say a word beside "when will I receive my last paycheck?"... the guy was litterally sweating in front of me... stupid but I jubilated (SP?) to see him so uncomfortable. In the end what I say or not did not change the issue so why bother and not get some fun from it? I will also add that if the person in front of "you" has an open mind it is fun to confront different opinions but if we know that this person will never accept that you can have a different opinion, why bother?
Titou: I am sorry about your job. Best of everything in coming jobs. My dad always said God closes a door but leaves open a window. Good luck in finding your window.
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
ironcat wrote:I'm actually going to take a bit of a stab at what the "absinthe" tweet and Frank is all about. Not that they're not friends with Frank now, but I think this was an inside joke. Absinthe is a type of liqueur that is popular in France, and didn't Frank live in Paris for a while? I bet he used to tell the guys about how he drank absinthe there (which probably came off a little pretentious), and so Craig was making a joke about bringing the absinthe (not even sure you can buy it in the US) and missing Frank, the "absinthe drinker".
I get the feeling the guys may have tried absinthe while traveling in Europe with Ali. I can't remember where, but it lingers in my head. (maybe like a hangover LOL)
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
Beeleever wrote:Jeepers wrote:It is not an insult when one actually CAN'T find words to say .. Just like Bevins reaction was. Ben may have had/could have the same/similar type reaction as well. Just could not find the words, can't speak in order to hold it together.
Not an insult by a long shot. And BTW she may not have asked a question that needed an answer lol
Jeepers, I think reason is trying to share that in her culture, silence is disrespectful. Let's honor that, even though we may not agree with it.
Thank you Beeleever you got my point. I know not everyone is going to agree with me but that is part of life I roll with the punches we all have a voice, disagreement is always welcome in my world, because my world is complex and I will never have the answer to all things, and another person point of view can change courses.
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ironcat wrote:I would never judge anyone based on how they react to being dumped at the FRC. The whole experience, which at this point has been going on almost 2 months, is a huge mind****, as we know, and everyone reacts to shock and disappointment differently. Kudos to those who are able to compose themselves and handle it with aplomb and grace, but if you can't and fall apart, or throw a hissy fit, or storm out, so be it. None of us have been there, we are in no position to proclaim with total certainty that we would have behaved any better.
I totally agree. This is the part of the show I really hate. They have truly been in a bubble for so long and get a cold case of "reality" in the face with usually a long plane ride to follow.
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
pavalygurl wrote:Titou wrote:reason wrote:alsoaktchr wrote:I didn't find it disrespectful when Bevin said nothing after her rejection.... Broke my heart, and I was a Tessa fan...
In my culture it is disrespectful if you dont answer someone back when they speak to you. To me she was saying why waste anymore of my breath on you, you are not worthy of it.
Interesting (and I do not mean it in a sarcastic way at all).
This confirms that because we are all coming from different culture and background and education and experience and age and genre, we all see the same episode differently
In my book, silence is the best response or I would be over dramatic. I learned with years that silence is my BEST FRIEND.
note: recently I was cut out from my job. The RH guy started to say BS of their reasons. I did not say a word beside "when will I receive my last paycheck?"... the guy was litterally sweating in front of me... stupid but I jubilated (SP?) to see him so uncomfortable. In the end what I say or not did not change the issue so why bother and not get some fun from it? I will also add that if the person in front of "you" has an open mind it is fun to confront different opinions but if we know that this person will never accept that you can have a different opinion, why bother?
Titou: I am sorry about your job. Best of everything in coming jobs. My dad always said God closes a door but leaves open a window. Good luck in finding your window.
thank you. this happened a year ago and I was fortunate enough to find another job one week later way way better in a much nicer place. thank you for the support, it always feels nice no matter the reasons
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
I've been studying this clip on HD from my DVR; here are my thoughts:
0:00 - 0:35: Ben (watch & hands match)
0:36 - 2:01: JP (jawline match, different suit than Ben's)
2:39 - 3:26: JP
3:27 - 4:34: Ben (hand's match, different suit than JP's; interesting note: Ashley moves her upper body toward Ben starting at @4:06)
4:35 - 5:04: JP (suit, jawline match; interesting note: look at Ashley's hair on her left side that she pushes back in a later clip...)
5:48 - 6:24: JP (I believe, as you can see Ashley flip the left side of her hair back as she goes after him; it's not as clear on this video as it is on HD)
That's all I have.
0:00 - 0:35: Ben (watch & hands match)
0:36 - 2:01: JP (jawline match, different suit than Ben's)
2:39 - 3:26: JP
3:27 - 4:34: Ben (hand's match, different suit than JP's; interesting note: Ashley moves her upper body toward Ben starting at @4:06)
4:35 - 5:04: JP (suit, jawline match; interesting note: look at Ashley's hair on her left side that she pushes back in a later clip...)
5:48 - 6:24: JP (I believe, as you can see Ashley flip the left side of her hair back as she goes after him; it's not as clear on this video as it is on HD)
That's all I have.
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Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion
ironcat wrote:I would never judge anyone based on how they react to being dumped at the FRC. The whole experience, which at this point has been going on almost 2 months, is a huge mind****, as we know, and everyone reacts to shock and disappointment differently. Kudos to those who are able to compose themselves and handle it with aplomb and grace, but if you can't and fall apart, or throw a hissy fit, or storm out, so be it. None of us have been there, we are in no position to proclaim with total certainty that we would have behaved any better.
I was never judging Bevin. Andy did ask her how she was feeling she never answer. In my CULTURE her not answering is disrespectful, and shows a lack of respect for the person asking the question. I am saying if Ben walks away (which I dont know because I was not there using my imagination from her crying jog and her words said then) and not answer or give her closure as she seems to want with bentley, then he losses respect for her at that moment in time, that would be how it would be seen in my culture. I can understand everyones point of view I would so hope if you can understand others.
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richlp wrote:Someone asking me a question, puts me under NO obligation to answer it...
"Reality television frequently portrays a modified (...) day-to-day life, at times utilizing sensationalism to attract audience viewers and increase advertising revenue. Participants are often placed in exotic locations or abnormal situations, and are often persuaded to act in specific scripted ways by off-screen "story editors" or "segment television producers" with the portrayal of events and speech manipulated and contrived to create an illusion of reality through direction and post-production editing techniques." ~ Wikipedia |
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tifferoo wrote:I've been studying this clip on HD from my DVR; here are my thoughts:
0:00 - 0:35: Ben (watch & hands match)
0:36 - 2:01: JP (jawline match, different suit than Ben's)
2:39 - 3:26: JP
3:27 - 4:34: Ben (hand's match, different suit than JP's; interesting note: Ashley moves her upper body toward Ben starting at @4:06)
4:35 - 5:04: JP (suit, jawline match; interesting note: look at Ashley's hair on her left side that she pushes back in a later clip...)
5:48 - 6:24: JP (I believe, as you can see Ashley flip the left side of her hair back as she goes after him; it's not as clear on this video as it is on HD)
That's all I have.
I agree with your impressions although can't tell about her flipping her hair in the last part on the video. I hadn't noticed Ashley bending her upper body towards Ben until now. Good catch.
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