Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Fan Forum - General Discussion Thread #3

[aviej]

I believe mm called the breakup "wise," sounds like she 100% supports it. JMO.

Yes, and most of us know why.  I think Andi should fight for this relationship if she truly loves Josh.  Remember LOVE IS WAR AND WORTH FIGHTING FOR.

I think you misunderstood me, it sounds like mm supports the breakup. It's jmo.

I also sensed she supported the breakup by using the word "wise". While I do think that family input is good, these adults, not children have the ultimate say. When my boyfriend asked for my hand in marriage, my mom was not in support. But my dad quickly reminded her that her mom was also not in support of him! Fast track to present day, my mom and husband couldn't be more alike and they talk to each other constantly.

[nannymargie]

MM did not post anything until after the official statement.

I understand the being sad, I went through it with Charlie and Sarah, they were so good together and their love was so real.  I was overjoyed when the got back together.  But, in the end they were just delaying the inevitable.  I learned then to appreciate that the couples knows their situation best.

If this is truly the second break up and the first was during the Mexico trip in November, it seems like they really tried and it just wasn't making them happy.

I don't think 3 days is really a breakup.  A few weeks or months apart will give them more clarity on what they want and if this is worth fighting for.

[nannymargie]

Yes, and most of us know why.  I think Andi should fight for this relationship if she truly loves Josh.  Remember LOVE IS WAR AND WORTH FIGHTING FOR.

I think you misunderstood me, it sounds like mm supports the breakup. It's jmo.

I also sensed she supported the breakup by using the word "wise". While I do think that family input is good, these adults, not children have the ultimate say. When my boyfriend asked for my hand in marriage, my mom was not in support. But my dad quickly reminded her that her mom was also not in support of him! Fast track to present day, my mom and husband couldn't be more alike and they talk to each other constantly.

I agree if Josh and Andi do try again to make their relationship work all families needs to support their decision.

[soccermom333]

ITA, I believe Andi is really devastated and inconsolable. Remember how heart broken she was when she left JPG, she was wondering if she would ever find someone. So, can you imagine, how she must feel for losing her great love, especially if he is the one who broke it of?

IMO, MM was too quick to declare their break up publicly, I find it very strange. She should have waited. I hope she doesn't eat her words, bcs Andi might not be ready to give up Josh yet, and might want to fight for the relationship.You never know...

I believe mm called the breakup "wise," sounds like she 100% supports it. JMO.

Yes, and most of us know why.  I think Andi should fight for this relationship if she truly loves Josh.  Remember LOVE IS WAR AND WORTH FIGHTING FOR.

Oh my gosh!  That song!  I forgot about that.  It was special to Andi and Josh too.  I think that night was one of their best memories.  They both knew they had something special that night in Brussels.  That might have been the night they started falling in love.  Yikes, can you imagine Andi driving and that song comes on her playlist?!   Waterworks for sure.  Maybe that needs to happen, it will help with the healing.  

They will both be fine and I pray they find peace.  I really hope they remain friends.  Graham and Michelle M. are a great example of a couple from this show who tried dating, didn't work, but stayed good friends.  

[aviej]

MM did not post anything until after the official statement.

I understand the being sad, I went through it with Charlie and Sarah, they were so good together and their love was so real.  I was overjoyed when the got back together.  But, in the end they were just delaying the inevitable.  I learned then to appreciate that the couples knows their situation best.

If this is truly the second break up and the first was during the Mexico trip in November, it seems like they really tried and it just wasn't making them happy.

Well we have no concrete evidence that they broke up when she was in Mexico. I do think she got fed up and took herself to Mexico. Maybe she just needed time to clear her head and not have to deal with issues. Couples do that all the time - take long drives, come back late to avoid confrontation, go and visit their parents... it doesn't always equal a breakup. But, we may never know the real deal, but I sure wish that we had someone here on the forum who lives in ATL and has ties with the MurrDorfs to know something. I don't think that any party should come out and give any additional information though (although as a fan I'd want that very much). Their relationship is private they were respectful to give out a joint statement, they owe nothing else to anyone - only to find true happiness for themselves.

[nannymargie]

Andi and Josh IG accounts have both gone up 1000 since yesterday.

Andi 854K Josh 582K

[Maggenzm]

Probably. I think she's really hurt too. They loved each other but made mistakes. Hopefully they can fix the mistakes and make it work because love like that is special.

ITA, I believe Andi is really devastated and inconsolable. Remember how heart broken she was when she left JPG, she was wondering if she would ever find someone. So, can you imagine, how she must feel for losing her great love, especially if he is the one who broke it of?

IMO, MM was too quick to declare their break up publicly, I find it very strange. She should have waited. I hope she doesn't eat her words, bcs Andi might not be ready to give up Josh yet, and might want to fight for the relationship.You never know...

I believe mm called the breakup "wise," sounds like she 100% supports it. JMO.

That's my point, she was too quick to approve and declare it publicly. It seams to me she encouraged it. May be because she knows exactly what has being going and knows that it will never work out no matter how long they work it out. IMO

[nannymargie]

ITA, I believe Andi is really devastated and inconsolable. Remember how heart broken she was when she left JPG, she was wondering if she would ever find someone. So, can you imagine, how she must feel for losing her great love, especially if he is the one who broke it of?

IMO, MM was too quick to declare their break up publicly, I find it very strange. She should have waited. I hope she doesn't eat her words, bcs Andi might not be ready to give up Josh yet, and might want to fight for the relationship.You never know...

I believe mm called the breakup "wise," sounds like she 100% supports it. JMO.

That's my point, she was too quick to approve and declare it publicly. It seams to me she encouraged it. May be because she knows exactly what has being going and knows that it will never work out no matter how long they work it out. IMO

Some of us think there is more too it.

[GuardianAngel]

If MM had anything to do with it and Josh was truly in love with Andi, the love of his life, his forever, they would still be together JMO.

Some may think she was too quick, but IMO, the timing was all calculated. She couldn't have made the statement before it was released and, her statement was confirmation to those who may have not believed the media. Again, as so many have stated, the in's and outs on how it was to be handled, had already been arranged, probably for several weeks.

[Maggenzm]

I think you misunderstood me, it sounds like mm supports the breakup. It's jmo.

I also sensed she supported the breakup by using the word "wise". While I do think that family input is good, these adults, not children have the ultimate say. When my boyfriend asked for my hand in marriage, my mom was not in support. But my dad quickly reminded her that her mom was also not in support of him! Fast track to present day, my mom and husband couldn't be more alike and they talk to each other constantly.

I agree if Josh and Andi do try again to make their relationship work all families needs to support their decision.

ITA, that's my concern about MM announcing the break up publicly so soon, it makes it so final. If they decide to give it a go, I hope his family will support it.

[Kashathediva]

Pure speculation on my part, just voicing some thoughts.
For the last 8 months, perhaps longer, fans would ask for IG photos, tweets, fb posts or photos feeding their fan love of the couple. Miraculously, MM would come through or even more ironic JODI would come through. (perhaps a little bird whispered in their ears? Nah!):Nod: Perhaps.
Big coincidence. Not --imoaa.
Now the couple comes out with a joint statement indicating they have broken up and are moving on and wishing each other well.
MM comes out and says such a day later.
I can't help, but think all she is doing is letting their fans know one more time, "Thank you. The couple tried, but much to their disappointment they are moving on. Thank you for your support, now it's really time to support them and let them move on."
This is how I take her statement. Just me.

[soccermom333]

I also sensed she supported the breakup by using the word "wise". While I do think that family input is good, these adults, not children have the ultimate say. When my boyfriend asked for my hand in marriage, my mom was not in support. But my dad quickly reminded her that her mom was also not in support of him! Fast track to present day, my mom and husband couldn't be more alike and they talk to each other constantly.

I agree if Josh and Andi do try again to make their relationship work all families needs to support their decision.

ITA, that's my concern about MM announcing the break up publicly so soon, it makes it so final. If they decide to give it a go, I hope his family will support it.

Of course you can never say never. You are entitled as well as Jodi's other fans to grieve on your own time and if some wish them to reconcile, it is their right to wish that. Happy Josh and Andi fans have a place to gather and "talk' through things.

I believe they know what is best for them and I truly hope no matter what happens, they remain friends always.

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