Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #2

IDK. I have quite a lot of family on the west coast. (Beverly Hills, SF, SD)
Being a "friend" is being a friend anywhere IMO. Stepping on anyone at anytime is not part of that definition, IMO. 
There are 1000 other words he could have used besides brutal, again IMO, to get viewers.
I think brutal was his goal. I guess we will all see if he got brutal.

Kashathediva wrote:IDK. I have quite a lot of family on the west coast. (Beverly Hills, SF, SD)
Being a "friend" is being a friend anywhere IMO. Stepping on anyone at anytime is not part of that definition, IMO. 
There are 1000 other words he could have used besides brutal, again IMO, to get viewers.
I think brutal was his goal. I guess we will all see if he got brutal.

Remember when Kelsey was lying on the floor having her panic attack and the girls just sat there stone faced?  That's what I'll be looking like while Andi tells her story.  Tolerance overload.

Andi shouldn't have gone on the show if she can't handle the interview. She saw what CH did with Nikki. 

I have no idea if the US quote is true but it wouldn't surprise me. I doubt very much that Andi really wanted to go the marriage/baby route anytime in the foreseeable future. I just hope when she does find someone to love, he doesn't baby her like she has been. I don't know how many guys want to be with a princess/diva. All JMHO.

Andi is such a good friend of CH but didn't have a clue about what was happening in her life. He didn't congratulate her on her tshirt launch Advocare launch or anything else, that I could see. I understand that relationship problems is not going to be broadcasted by her, however if we knew something was up as early as October, than surely her good friend CH knew.

As Kasha said, he is preparing the viewers with using words like brutal and devastated. Of course it's to pull in more viewers, and IMO that's the way the whole sit down has been scripted. We can't have her all happy talking about her plans for the future, to which there doesn't seem to be any.

Emily was the F1, she did the interview. She went on and on about how much she loved Brad, and he supported her doing the interview. She kept it classy, although there were a lot of tears and at the time there were those including me who felt she was just to insecure. However, she did nothing but praise Brad.

We are already hearing rumours of the opposite.

CH is MF's front man. MF would pimp out his mother for ratings.

I don't think CH is really friends with Andi although do think he is with some of the others. I'm not sure why we'd expect anything from him other than doing what he's paid for. He does what he's told. I don't really dislike him for it nor do I respect it. I just know it's happening.  :Nod:

GuardianAngel wrote:No it hasn't been confirmed, other than by "sources", the ones we pick and choose to believe depending on what they say . So we speculate.

Thank you Guardian. I have seen the article. If true, I can only imagine how upset Andi is at "her pal." Bottom line..... if true, she just dug her own grave. Terrible thing to say about your ex, or anyone for that matter. If not true, she should refute it.

What a mess. I wonder if this will come out at the interview, or not. Guess we will know soon enough.

Article from E! made me chuckle... they describe Sunday's sit down with Chris/Chris and put heartbroken in quotes when referring to Andi...

Are they prepping us for some OTT drama??? Should be something to watch...

"The Bachelor airs on two nights this week, with a Sunday night "Chris Tell All" special, in which Kelsey, Chris Soules and recently "heartbroken" Andi Dorfman sit down with Chris Harrison. And a second episode on Monday night, in which the ladies go with [Chris].

http://www.eonline.com/news/625085/chris-soules-talks-valentine-s-day-plans-and-spoiler-alert-what-his-chosen-lady-is-into?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

GuardianAngel wrote:Andi is such a good friend of CH but didn't have a clue about what was happening in her life. He didn't congratulate her on her tshirt launch Advocare launch or anything else, that I could see. I understand that relationship problems is not going to be broadcasted by her, however if we knew something was up as early as October, than surely her good friend CH knew.

As Kasha said, he is preparing the viewers with using words like brutal and devastated. Of course it's to pull in more viewers, and IMO that's the way the whole sit down has been scripted. We can't have her all happy talking about her plans for the future, to which there doesn't seem to be any.

Emily was the F1, she did the interview. She went on and on about how much she loved Brad, and he supported her doing the interview. She kept it classy, although there were a lot of tears and at the time there were those including me who felt she was just to insecure. However, she did nothing but praise Brad.

We are already hearing rumours of the opposite.

When you say rumors of the opposite, are you referring to the spoilers we are receiving from CH and Eonline, or are you hearing of rumors from other sources? I think Andi can be heartbroken and devastated and still keep it classy, not blaming or criticizing Josh, especially if she claims they both came to the mutual decision that it just wasn't going to work after the premiere. CH ssemed to indicate that the Premiere was the final straw and that something about being part of that experience is what helped them make their decision.

I know this may seem irrelevant now but you mentioned "we" knew something was up as early as October. Besides the alleged Murray family feud that was timed around October, my impression was Andi and Josh as a couple appeared to still be doing fine at that point. I noticed a cool down between them in late November and December. Did I miss something that others saw that indicated they were having "couple" problems as far back as October? Looking back at interviews and appearances through Veterans Day they still seemed happy and in love.

Laudergirl wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Andi is such a good friend of CH but didn't have a clue about what was happening in her life. He didn't congratulate her on her tshirt launch Advocare launch or anything else, that I could see. I understand that relationship problems is not going to be broadcasted by her, however if we knew something was up as early as October, than surely her good friend CH knew.

As Kasha said, he is preparing the viewers with using words like brutal and devastated. Of course it's to pull in more viewers, and IMO that's the way the whole sit down has been scripted. We can't have her all happy talking about her plans for the future, to which there doesn't seem to be any.

Emily was the F1, she did the interview. She went on and on about how much she loved Brad, and he supported her doing the interview. She kept it classy, although there were a lot of tears and at the time there were those including me who felt she was just to insecure. However, she did nothing but praise Brad.

We are already hearing rumours of the opposite.

When you say rumors of the opposite, are you referring to the spoilers we are receiving from CH and Eonline, or are you hearing of rumors from other sources? I think Andi can be heartbroken and devastated and still keep it classy, not blaming or criticizing Josh, especially if she claims they both came to the mutual decision that it just wasn't going to work after the premiere. CH ssemed to indicate that the Premiere was the final straw and that something about being part of that experience is what helped them make their decision.

I know this may seem irrelevant now but you mentioned "we" knew something was up as early as October. Besides the alleged Murray family feud that was timed around October, my impression was Andi and Josh as a couple appeared to still be doing fine at that point. I noticed a cool down between them in late November and December. Did I miss something that others saw that indicated they were having "couple" problems as far back as October? Looking back at interviews and appearances through Veterans Day they still seemed happy and in love.

I can't answer for GA, but I can tell you what I think I have or have posted.  :Nod:  I hope this clears some things up from my end.

The only thing that makes me question that MEandI could keep the interview "classy" and do a Nikki broken record reply to CH(we loved each other very much, we tried to work on our relationship, but realized it was not the best for either of us), is that she has not handled other interviews classy or polished. I know this is subjective from my POV. The way she dealt with Eric and the way she dealt with the ATFR, the red carpet and other things lead me to this POV. It is the all MEandI all the time channel. 
The way she relentlessly patted down Josh on the red carpet reminded me of an owner trying to discipline their antsy dog. "Down boy, down boy!" As if Josh was going to come out any minute and say something off the script, whatever weirdo script she had going in her head.
My personal opinion from listening to CH today: They were at the Red Carpet event and saw other couples that had "made it" and saw they did not have the "same stuff".  Very good politically correct statement! Kudos if that ends up being the "reported" case.
Per your last paragraph and the bolded: I knew this due to their Kleinfeld fiasco which took place late Oct--early Nov. I think you and I talked about this.  The bottom line was there was no way this was a couple in the slightest bit interested in wedding anything. They were there for the publicity.

Sprite wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:The one that really annoys me is that she supposedly wants to find a guy that doesn't want a traditional wife. I suppose there are many different forms of traditionalism, but for me, you can still be a traditional wife in the sense that you support your family, provide for them, be family oriented, etc. but also still have your own goals and your own outlets for your creativity.

To me, if that quote is to be believed, it seems like she just wants a guy that will let her float around doing whatever she wants whenever she wants. Time to grow up, IMO and realize you can be a traditional wife and mother, but still be your own person and do your own things. It does a real disservice to women when stuff like that is said IMO.

Now she's taking kissy face selfies for promotion of hair clip ins in order to get paid. Ugh.

And that is the crux of the matter for me and has been ever since she has been on my TV screen. She wants what she wants, when she wants it...and screw everyone else. If she doesn't get it she either attacks or whines woe is me, I try sooooooo hard, it's not my fault. She is a spoiled brat who wants everything, but doesn't really want to put any effort into anything if it doesn't go her way. She is Pookie for a reason.

  She can't love anyone more than she loves herself. Epitome of a self-centered biatch who only cares about herself, being pampered, always has to be right, her way or the highway, and the loudest voice heard. She makes my skin crawl, she is obviously a complete phony & user. She is not that intelligent. She put "wallah" instead of "voila" on her ig. & put "tenderer" on her ribs recipe instead of "more tender", etc. etc., there are many more things like that. She won't have trouble meeting someone on her intelligence level at all.    She is the one who is immature & selfish, not the other way around.

Laudergirl wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Andi is such a good friend of CH but didn't have a clue about what was happening in her life. He didn't congratulate her on her tshirt launch Advocare launch or anything else, that I could see. I understand that relationship problems is not going to be broadcasted by her, however if we knew something was up as early as October, than surely her good friend CH knew.

As Kasha said, he is preparing the viewers with using words like brutal and devastated. Of course it's to pull in more viewers, and IMO that's the way the whole sit down has been scripted. We can't have her all happy talking about her plans for the future, to which there doesn't seem to be any.

Emily was the F1, she did the interview. She went on and on about how much she loved Brad, and he supported her doing the interview. She kept it classy, although there were a lot of tears and at the time there were those including me who felt she was just to insecure. However, she did nothing but praise Brad.

We are already hearing rumours of the opposite.

When you say rumors of the opposite, are you referring to the spoilers we are receiving from CH and Eonline, or are you hearing of rumors from other sources? I think Andi can be heartbroken and devastated and still keep it classy, not blaming or criticizing Josh, especially if she claims they both came to the mutual decision that it just wasn't going to work after the premiere. CH ssemed to indicate that the Premiere was the final straw and that something about being part of that experience is what helped them make their decision.

I know this may seem irrelevant now but you mentioned "we" knew something was up as early as October. Besides the alleged Murray family feud that was timed around October, my impression was Andi and Josh as a couple appeared to still be doing fine at that point. I noticed a cool down between them in late November and December. Did I miss something that others saw that indicated they were having "couple" problems as far back as October? Looking back at interviews and appearances through Veterans Day they still seemed happy and in love.

As far as the opposite, I'm referring to the rumours that sources said she would like someone intellectual or whatever they said. In contrast to Emily praising Brad. CH saying its brutal, IMO she has a meltdown, feel sorry for her, because it's never her fault, it's always someone else's fault. She'll take some blame, but turn it right around. I'm curious to see if she mentions traditional wife, and someone more intelligent because as I posted somewhere else, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if these are conversations she's had with her meangirl pal Kelly. I could be totally wrong, but jmho and my guesses.

I don't want to go into the laundry list of reasons why we knew since October, (actually since the first epi) they have all been discussed in the General discussion thread all season long, plus "rumours" from Tampa, there were problems. Where there's smoke there's usually fire.