Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #2

Andi is a self-proclaimed spoiled little Daddy's girl.  She is the poster-child for why you should NOT spoil a child.

What, I ask, has Andi proven she is capable of doing on her own? I see nothing other than a piece of paper from law school which she has chosen not to utilize. I'm sure she did not pay for college or law school herself. If she did, she must have tons of student loans, yet she has chosen not to work for over a year. This tells me that she had little or no skin in the game as for as paying that bill.

I think there are many phases to life and many paths we can choose along the way. In the past, even though I was never a fan of Andi's, I was vocal about her right as a woman to choose what she wanted to do with her degree and employment status.  I support anyone's choice to change careers or take time off to raise a family or to continue working fulltime while raising a family.  Every family is different and people need to do what works for them.

This, however, seems to be a case of Andi misrepresenting herself and going on this show as someone who wanted a spouse and family. She went onto JPG season just for fun and travels, caught the eye of the producers, played her part in auditioning for 'ette, and went on to have another few months of not working and traveling the world (something she admits she had never done).  

So, after 4 months of "playing family" with Josh she appears "over" the concept of settling down. The phrase "Be careful what you wish for" comes to mind. She couldn't handle the reality that becoming part of Josh's family meant that she was going to have to make certain compromises. It was going to require a few selfless gestures and actions. She couldn't stand the fact that Josh (currently struggling himself to start off professionally) expected her to be a contributing half to their couple. He expected her to make more than she was spending, to want to bond with family, and to think of longterm goals rather than the shiny objects of today.

To me, Andi should stay single. She obviously is not in any hurry to raise children (the most selfless act on earth) or to put anyone else's needs on an even playing field as her own. What she does want is to find herself a successful, wealthy, "intellectual" sugar daddy in NYC, all under the guise of her be an aspiring designer.  

She really has an infantismal chance of breaking into any fashion business. More likely, she could work in sales at one of the many retail stores in NYC, but even those jobs are highly competitive to get. My friend's daughter has a degree in fashion design. She worked for years in NYC in sales at a large department store, then as a buyer in one of their departments, and finally has achieved a store manager position at a designer shoe store. I am having a difficult time imagining Andi being happy doing any of those jobs, especially with their pay grades and the cost of living in NYC area. She is going to the fashion capital of the US with NO training or experience. She is delusional!

The reality is that Andi is a spoiled little girl who has never grown up.  She is now looking for someone else to pamper her and cater to her every whim. She wants someone who will put a roof over her head, food in her belly, pay her credit cards, not mind her shopaholic ways, and not expect anything but sex in return. There are plenty of successful, wealthy, self-absorbed men in NYC. I'm sure she could find one of them and latch onto him. She is selfish and entitled in an adolescent kind of way. I'm sure that she'll run into a few male versions of herself there, and one of them would be willing to sip Blue Label Johnny Walker Scotch as her pays off Andi's credit card bills.  

Ash2214 wrote:The one that really annoys me is that she supposedly wants to find a guy that doesn't want a traditional wife. I suppose there are many different forms of traditionalism, but for me, you can still be a traditional wife in the sense that you support your family, provide for them, be family oriented, etc. but also still have your own goals and your own outlets for your creativity.

To me, if that quote is to be believed, it seems like she just wants a guy that will let her float around doing whatever she wants whenever she wants. Time to grow up, IMO and realize you can be a traditional wife and mother, but still be your own person and do your own things. It does a real disservice to women when stuff like that is said IMO.

Now she's taking kissy face selfies for promotion of hair clip ins in order to get paid. Ugh.

Mia - Great post. This is the Andi I and many of us have seen since JPG's season. Rather than learning from her experiences, she's going from bad to worse.

Kashathediva wrote:

Sprite wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:The one that really annoys me is that she supposedly wants to find a guy that doesn't want a traditional wife. I suppose there are many different forms of traditionalism, but for me, you can still be a traditional wife in the sense that you support your family, provide for them, be family oriented, etc. but also still have your own goals and your own outlets for your creativity.

To me, if that quote is to be believed, it seems like she just wants a guy that will let her float around doing whatever she wants whenever she wants. Time to grow up, IMO and realize you can be a traditional wife and mother, but still be your own person and do your own things. It does a real disservice to women when stuff like that is said IMO.

Now she's taking kissy face selfies for promotion of hair clip ins in order to get paid. Ugh.

And that is the crux of the matter for me and has been ever since she has been on my TV screen. She wants what she wants, when she wants it...and screw everyone else. If she doesn't get it she either attacks or whines woe is me, I try sooooooo hard, it's not my fault. She is a spoiled brat who wants everything, but doesn't really want to put any effort into anything if it doesn't go her way. She is Pookie for a reason.

ME and I

Oh, Wise Maven, I bow down to you once more.

So, US magazine is the truth, now?

Steel2009 wrote:

motheroffive wrote:Here is the blurb in US.

OUCH!!

Yep ... and this is why I never saw Andi and Josh being a match. Not saying that Josh isn't smart ... I just always thought that their priorities and true interests in life were in different places. She is a piece of work for sure.

I was convinced during Andi's season that Josh would be next Bachelor. Wonder if he will be yet.

I think in several posts it has been pointed out the questionable source. 
The point being is this is a lead up to what is coming out.

Kashathediva wrote:I think in several posts it has been pointed out the questionable source. 
The point being is this is a lead up to what is coming out.

And the preview clip that was just posted up-thread with CH makes it look like the interview is going to be brutal on her. And by brutal I mean she will be asked reasonable questions for which reasonable and truthful answers will be expected, yet she will struggle to summons up the character or ability to be honest. She, therefore, will resort to buckets and buckets of tears. Hence, CH's description of it being "brutal". IMO.

Kashathediva wrote:I think in several posts it has been pointed out the questionable source. 
The point being is this is a lead up to what is coming out.

Can you clarify what you mean by the bolded?

I agree with Luvlady, why all of a sudden is UsWeekly considered the truth? They don't state the source, so how is it any different than the recent US weekly articles that claimed that Josh tried breaking up with Andi several times before and that it was over for him a while ago but she didn't want it to end. No sources were stated there either and the two articles contradict each other IMO. If Andi thought she was too intellectual for Josh or that he wasn't enough for her, like this recent article seems to imply, why would she be holding on, not wanting it to end with him like the previous article stated. Just one example of the many inconsistencies in the statements put out about Josh and Andi by this rag mag lately. I don't buy any of it. As much as CH tends to be dramatic with his words, I tend to believe his statement about how Andi is devastated over this before I would believe what is in the US weekly article. That doesn't sound like a woman who thought her ex wasn't good enough, just the opposite. But I guess we'll all know more after Sundays interview.
Here is the link again for those that didn't see it posted up thread.

http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20901243,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines

This is going to be just the first in getting her to say more than: "We loved each other a lot. We tried very hard to work at our relationship. In the end, however, it was not the best for either of us."
I remember being taught this broken record method. When "No" is a complete sentence or you do not want to answer anything with a more in depth answer, you plan out what you believe is acceptable for the circumstance and do not vary from that answer. Thus, the "broken record".  
Nikki pretty much did this with her CH red carpet grilling. It works.

For the record, this will be the third time, I have stated that USweekly--"consider the source". Third time for anyone counting. Hmm..yep third time and I know I am not the only one who has stated that this is not gospel, only USweekly and an unidentified source.

Sorry the for the double post, but something to think about...and jmo:
IF CH were such a good friend of MEandI's why not temper his comments about the interview with ME? 
He could say: "We have not spoken with Andi since her and Josh's break up and we wanted to see how things are with her. She looks great, it's been rough, but she is moving on to some great things and I can't wait for you all to see her.
Instead what we hear from her "friend" on national tv is the interview will be brutal. Nice.

Well, let's face it, him saying the interview will be brutal gets more people to tune in. And that's his job. I do think he considers Andi his good friend, but the definition of a hollywood friendship is very different to me than a friendship where I'm from. It's all about getting ahead out there. Regardless of who you step on.