Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion #2

notarose wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:Great post Notarose!  I still think TPTB wanted Josh as the bachelor this year and really did hope that pushing Nick at AFTR to reveal that Andi had sex with him was their last ditch effort to break them up.  I have grown to assume that any words out of CH's mouth are lies or PR, if the truth falls in the PR scheme great, if not that is so not a problem for CH.

I am glad Nick was free and clear of this mess, and I am trying to care about Chris the farmer even though he is a very boring version of my UT crush, Matthew McConaughey.  I am still bummed that I didn't get to stalk a taping of the bachelor here in GA and with a huge football theme, I am much more into that than farming.

  I also suspected TPTB had their eye on Josh as a real Bachelor contender when the season began. 

Matthew M. would be my kind of season

No kidding, though his wife/baby mama is gorgeous, so I don't think he is looking for any other women right now. My ex-husband actually managed to convince me he played softball with MM while we were at UT. He had a roommate who was just gorgeous, like stop and watch him with your mouth open gorgeous and I could see him being the type of guy to know MM. He had me going for a week until I finally asked the roommate who was also a really nice guy and honest who laughed and totally busted my ex. Perhaps that should have been another clue to dump my ex before I married him. Oh well, live and learn.

I'm still curious who would tell RS that Andi and Josh were 'on thin ice' and would break up within the next few weeks. There may have been rumors and whispers, but I don't think anyone had that kind of info (the imminent break up), if he's to be believed. Or did someone else come forward with that before him?

^ Me too. It's interesting because like I said, back in November he essentially defended them in a post so he definitely didn't hear of any trouble a month or so ago. Personally I think someone either working for the show or someone that was at the premiere told him because he said he got some information about them breaking up on Tuesday morning before he sent out his post.

He said he knew they still stayed in the same hotel room on Monday night so clearly someone who was there told him about the hotel room situation. Regardless, I just don't see close family or friends telling him. Their friends all seem pretty surprised, which doesn't surprise me because the two friend groups all became friends with each other and even all hung out on NYE and I don't think they knew of anything bad going on, but I guess if the new report is to believed that it "abruptly" ended I guess they wouldn't have known.

Welp, it looks like the fans are siding with Josh as he has increased in IG followers and all comments on other websites are positive towards him.

Well that's not surprising to me if you look at the bachelor franchise as a whole it happened with Roberto also these women bachelorette are enemy #1....

^ Interesting bc Josh and Andi remind me of Roberto and Ali in a way with how everything worked out especially Roberto and Josh. Both Roberto and Josh are very similar in their values, both being wholesome men and even both playing baseball

But the list can go on Ben/Courtney, Courtney continues to be vilify but not Ben, I personally don't see the similarities between the couples other than the baseball but hey it's just my opinion...

Ash2214 wrote:

mindless wrote:
That bothered me too in all their interviews. It's like she was trying hard to show everyone how in tune they are with their cute little banter about his failings. It's only really cute in private though, if that, not in front of strangers and cameras. Just came across as thoughtless and mean. I hope she wasn't like that in front of his friends and family too. I can imagine that getting old fast.    

It's something she certainly likes to do to people. She would tease Marcus about how shy he was and she would do it to Nick and always say something about him stuttering or stumbling over his words.

Ugh, thanks for reminding me. I guess she's more concerned about showing the world how funny she is than about not making people feel uncomfortable. Not a fan of people like that. If you really love someone then should care more about how they might feel than about putting on a show. I certainly wouldn't like my boyfriend pointing out to everyone I chew with my mouth open, even if I did. But that's just one of the many reasons I never really bought Andi's great love for Josh. She was trying way too hard to convince everyone of it. Speaking from experience, once you know you really love someone, you don't care what anyone else thinks. All that matters is that you know you love them and they know it. I mean look at Des and Chris. Everyone was doubting her love for him, because she clearly fell for Brooks during the show, but did she try to desperately prove her feelings? Maybe I've forgotten already, but it certainly didn't seem that way. They just went on with their lives being happy together. Andi on the other hand was trying to sell the perfect fairytale hard. I think that's why she still can't stand the sight of Nick, because he ruined the perfect image she was trying to portray. It didn't matter to her that it wasn't actually perfect at all, she just wanted so badly for everyone to think so. It was all about appearances. She already started rewriting history during the proposal, which BTW sounded so acted it was unreal to me. I really don't see how anyone can take anything she said in interviews seriously, especially after how professionally she lied to everyone's faces on Monday. She says whatever is convenient for her at the time. What she's actually thinking? Lord knows. I'm not sure she even knows.

wish they would scratch the bachette this year and do back to back bachelor starring Josh. :cutesmile!:

^ Yes please!

eliza3 wrote:wish they would scratch the bachette this year and do back to back bachelor starring Josh. :cutesmile!:

No I do not want Josh to have to go thru the hoops that this show requires. 95% the time these relationships do not work and don't want him going through that again. Plus Josh doesn't like hurting girls and he would have to do that every week which I think would be hard for him. If him and Andi are not meant to be I want him to find someone he can date and get know before having to make a big decision like getting engaged again.

ThankMeLater wrote:^ Interesting bc Josh and Andi remind me of Roberto and Ali in a way with how everything worked out especially Roberto and Josh. Both Roberto and Josh are very similar in their values, both being wholesome men and even both playing baseball

IA. I see it as a replay of Roberto, now Josh, wanting to settle down to real life without the limelight, conflicting with Ali, now Andi, wanting to pursue a career in entertainment or fashion design that requires being very public. I don't criticize Ali or Andi if that is the career they desire, but in both cases it was
the opposite of what the man they chose wanted. There just isn't any room for a compromise when one wants a "normal" private life and the other wants a public life. Never going to work.