Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion

Relalou wrote:

grace8136 wrote:

bleuberry wrote:I don't think anything really 'happened' with the Sean-Shay thing either. Shay is an oddball, but yes the families always seemed very happy and excited for them.

I think we all have way too much time on our hands and so are writing scenarios created entirely in our own imagination and based upon the smallest crumb of observation (an apparent "unfriend" or "unfollow" in SM).  We don't have access to any of their private communications as brothers/family, which is surely how they do most of their communicating.  If someone doesn't like Josh then he is now failing as a brother; if they don't like Andi then she is the cause of that failure; if he WAS with his family more then Andi would be mad because he hadn't cut the cord, etc.  Seems to me they are a new young couple, living a busy life and learning to love each other's families.  More than that is pure speculation and/or personal bias. IMO

Awwww... what a refreshing tweet!

OMG, thank you bleuberry!!! The voice of reason!! I agree with you100%%%%!!!!

Kashathediva wrote:Before this thread takes a turn---

This is a discussion thread. Positive and negative comments are allowed regarding cast/show per discussion topic. That is how discussions are.
Fan threads are for positive thoughts only. This is not a fan thread.

For what it's worth--I don't like MEandI and it has nothing to do with who she is with. Josh is ok, but I think he has rocks for brains.  I keep hoping he wakes up and smells the coffee(or rotten egg in his case). 
Carry on.

Just curious, Kasha, do you feel this way because he ended up with Andi and your not a fan, or because you think he's a dumb jock in general? Although he used a lot of sports analogies during the show, there were many ITM's and post show interviews where he came across very articulate.  I know it's all just opinion, and maybe you prefer much more intellectual men, but I think Josh is plenty smart, and I don't think Andi, whether you like her or not, would fall so hard for a guy that wasn't intelligent, no matter how good looking he was.

Posted by Grace8136:
"I think we all have way too much time on our hands and so are writing scenarios created entirely in our own imagination and based upon the smallest crumb of observation (an apparent "unfriend" or "unfollow" in SM).  We don't have access to any of their private communications as brothers/family, which is surely how they do most of their communicating.  If someone doesn't like Josh then he is now failing as a brother; if they don't like Andi then she is the cause of that failure; if he WAS with his family more then Andi would be mad because he hadn't cut the cord, etc.  Seems to me they are a new young couple, living a busy life and learning to love each other's families.  More than that is pure speculation and/or personal bias. IMO"

I couldn't agree more with this! Great post!

Well I for one happen to love Andi and Josh together. They seem to really love each other and look very happy.

We only got to see a 2 minute comment of the cut the cord conversation. You know more had to be discussed about that but TPTB made it look like Andi was worried that Josh would always be attached to his family.

Like Aaron said it's time for Josh to be happy and live his own life. Like Josh also said it's a seperation time for all of them and the family will not be able to get together like they use too. MM also said that Andi will be Josh's first priority as it should be. So just because someone is missing from a certain event does not mean there is any trouble.

Josh and Andi have a lot going on right now and are working towards their wedding and future as husband and wife. I am sure they will figure out how to handle any situations that come up.

It's all fine and dandy that Josh and Andi are trying to navigate their life together and balancing all their commitments plus spending time with each family. It won't always be a perfect process. But the unfollowing/unfriending on social media is totally petty and immature. IMO

umngirl wrote:It's all fine and dandy that Josh and Andi are trying to navigate their life together and balancing all their commitments plus spending time with each family. It won't always be a perfect process. But the unfollowing/unfriending on social media is totally petty and immature. IMO

I find the SM thing a little odd also but there may be a very good reason for it since Andi is still friends with MM and Aaron on face book. So I think if there was a big problem Andi would not be friends with them either.

nannymargie wrote:

umngirl wrote:It's all fine and dandy that Josh and Andi are trying to navigate their life together and balancing all their commitments plus spending time with each family. It won't always be a perfect process. But the unfollowing/unfriending on social media is totally petty and immature. IMO

I find the SM thing a little odd also but there may be a very good reason for it since Andi is still friends with MM and Aaron on face book.  So I think if there was a big problem Andi would not be friends with them either.

IMO, there is no good reason. You don't unfollow your own family, you just don't. Whatever issue(s) there are, there are ways to resolve them without being petty with social media activity.

My last of many posts about this this weekend. I promise.

I don't see Andi as a strong woman, I see her as a brat and someone who equates b****y behavior with being strong.

I as a woman resent that to be seen as strong you have to be a b****.

I know many strong young women in their 20s. I saw groups of strong women who work well with their equally strong men to help out both and equity clinic and a latin clinic here in Augusta to get health care to those who need it and may not be able to afford it. The leaders both male and female of that effort actually used a lot of compassion and niceness in their efforts to bring their passion to light.

As far as female role models. Mother Theresa was an incredibly strong woman. Hilary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice are both strong women.

A women can be gentle and be strong, she can be tough and be strong, she can be kind and be strong.

It took me personally a long time to learn there is a huge difference between being assertive and being aggressive. Assertive will often do the trick and aggression isn't really needed most of the time.

I don't find selfish, self-centered meanness as strong, I just see it as mean. You don't need to be mean to be strong.

I see alot of mean out of Andi and especially her bff Kelly. I also see what many see as a softening of Andi, I can agree there has been some sprinkled in with the bratty behavior.

But, there have been plenty of notes that people who meet Josh and Andi and say how nice he is and Andi not as much. It tends to get ignored as those people being jealous or Andi has to act that way because her man is so hot that she has to be b****y to keep the other women away. Please. Let's face it, Andi has a lot of rude and b****y in her and she is proud of it. So nope, I believe she isn't as nice as Josh. Oh and yeah, Josh is hot, as is Sean, Chris, and OMG my first ever bachelor crush Ryan. Cat, Des and Trista all seemed to handle other women being around their exceptionally hot men without needing to be mean or b****y.

Andi isn't all bad, but she isn't all good either. Reading repeatedly how everything is always someone else's fault but hers, well simply not true. It can't be true of anyone, it is just that simple.

And nope, you can't convince me that b**** means strong. It just means b****.

umngirl wrote:

nannymargie wrote:

umngirl wrote:It's all fine and dandy that Josh and Andi are trying to navigate their life together and balancing all their commitments plus spending time with each family. It won't always be a perfect process. But the unfollowing/unfriending on social media is totally petty and immature. IMO

I find the SM thing a little odd also but there may be a very good reason for it since Andi is still friends with MM and Aaron on face book.  So I think if there was a big problem Andi would not be friends with them either.

IMO, there is no good reason. You don't unfollow your own family, you just don't. Whatever issue(s) there are, there are ways to resolve them without being petty with social media activity.

I need to get over this but seriously. This is especially when you are thirty years of age. That is 3-0, three decades of life, THREE. Excuse me while I weep.

Yup, I think it's pretty darn immature. And I think it's telling that not even Andi has unfollowed any of them. Josh needs to watch and learn.

Stuckinsc, can you please tell us all the times that people that said she was rude? I have seen 2 that said that but I have seen a lot more saying other wise.

I think I would be bitchy myself if I was constantly being asked for pictures. Sometime you just might be PMSing and just not in the best of moods. Josh seems to handle that better than Andi but it doesn't mean that Andi is a B---h.

Laudergirl wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:Before this thread takes a turn---

This is a discussion thread. Positive and negative comments are allowed regarding cast/show per discussion topic. That is how discussions are.
Fan threads are for positive thoughts only. This is not a fan thread.

For what it's worth--I don't like MEandI and it has nothing to do with who she is with. Josh is ok, but I think he has rocks for brains.  I keep hoping he wakes up and smells the coffee(or rotten egg in his case). 
Carry on.

Just curious, Kasha, do you feel this way because he ended up with Andi and your not a fan, or because you think he's a dumb jock in general? Although he used a lot of sports analogies during the show, there were many ITM's and post show interviews where he came across very articulate.  I know it's all just opinion, and maybe you prefer much more intellectual men, but I think Josh is plenty smart, and I don't think Andi, whether you like her or not, would fall so hard for a guy that wasn't intelligent, no matter how good looking he was.

Posted by Grace8136:
"I think we all have way too much time on our hands and so are writing scenarios created entirely in our own imagination and based upon the smallest crumb of observation (an apparent "unfriend" or "unfollow" in SM).  We don't have access to any of their private communications as brothers/family, which is surely how they do most of their communicating.  If someone doesn't like Josh then he is now failing as a brother; if they don't like Andi then she is the cause of that failure; if he WAS with his family more then Andi would be mad because he hadn't cut the cord, etc.  Seems to me they are a new young couple, living a busy life and learning to love each other's families.  More than that is pure speculation and/or personal bias. IMO"

I couldn't agree more with this! Great post!

I will answer very briefly. My feelings about Josh have nothing to do with him being an athlete. I believe you can have varying degrees of attributes with no relationship to others. In other words you can be an athlete and be a genius should that be the case. 
I have little respect for MEandI. But I do not know her personally, so my assessment is subjective at best. 
My assessment of Josh has little to nothing to do with MEandI, also, but I don't see either of them as being particularly bright bulbs.
Now you see why I stay out of the fan threads! (except for modding)