Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion

by stuckinsc Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:37 am

Emila23_12 wrote:
soccermom333 wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:I guess I don't understand what the drama is, if there really is any.
2 couples are engaged in one family. That's a blessing.

Just had to bump this again. The voice of reason. We don't really know anything as fact. Are Andi and Kacie really "fighting?" IMHO everyone seems VERY happy. ;)

I am glad Andi and Josh are remaining positive on SM. All IMHO of course. :cutesmile!:

100% :cutesmile!:
I like to take things positive, and dont read to much in everything !!!!

Since this is a discussion thread, I think a respectful discussion between us is okay. I also think Josh in general is positive on SM, Andi gets her digs and and sarcasm is very prevalent in her SM. And again, I think she is often the root of lots of Kelly T's posts. If she expected her bff to be positive as she is asking others to be then I would respect it a lot more. Someone commented on Kelly T's negative posts and Andi just deleted it, so yup, I don't see her postings as all that much progress to her being positive.

by stuckinsc Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:40 am

docnash14 wrote:
stuckinsc wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:

Oh I agree. It was just dumb of her, especially since she knew the outcome. I wouldn't be surprised if there was more there that made Josh not too happy. I don't think it was just the tweets that set Josh off. Kacie seems sweet, but her social media speaks volumes IMO. Josh didn't unfollow Aaron until quite recently. They were fine at the end of August and Aaron was favoriting tweets from Josh and Andi. Whatever made it get a bit deeper with Aaron and Kacie had to have happened within the past month or so I would say. Timing wise, Stephanie posted about this weekend about a month ago. It was definitely planned. I threw out the idea this morning that perhaps Josh was informed Aaron would be proposing and probably wasn't a fan of that considering he's not the biggest fan of Kacie, but who knows.

I do agree that at some point one of the brothers just needs to let it go. Having close knit families on both sides is a wonderful thing and a blessing. I'm sure it will happen. It's normal for families to get into some sticky times. It's how life usually goes. Live and let go. It's nice to see too that regardless, Josh and Andi seem to be doing incredibly well.

I understand that Josh may not like Kacie, just like Aaron may no longer be the hugest Andi fan either. I am saddened that Josh didn't get to be there for the engagement, since I think it was probably something that if you asked them before Josh went on the bachelor, that they would have liked to have shared with each other. I hope that one or both of them will realize that their fiances/wives may not love each other, but that doesn't mean that it has to interfere with their brotherly bond. Hopefully if Kacie and Andi ever do get to met and spend time together they will grow to have a common ground as well.

I truly just adored the Murrays, so to see anything separating this great group is sad to me. I have lost a sister and a brother as well as my father and I miss them all so much, I really do regret the times I spent being mad at them instead of enjoying the time we had together instead. Unfortunately, once they are gone you can't do anything about it.

I too feel sad about this as I admire and am very touched by the closeness of the Murray family. I certainly don't know what is going on within the family but I think something definitely is and suspect it's something between Kacie and Andi. I trust just as Ash indicated in another post that they will be able to work through the difficulty so they won't have to experience the kind of regret you so poignantly shared.

As far as Andi's tweets, I agree that she clearly has the ability to use her words to get her point across on twitter with not always the nicest of undertones. Where I disagree with you (referencing another one of your posts) is that I have observed Kacie doing the same. That being said, I believe that Josh's upbeat approach to live has already significantly rubbed off on Andi as evidenced by her being able to truly laugh at herself at the ATFR when her frown scenes were shown. (I recall an interview soon after the show ended when Andi admitted that during the airing of the show she would read some of SM comments about her and would cry for hours and credited Josh for guiding her those times by coaching her not to take things so personally. And I think she is trying to observe the credo of the IG she posted about not posting if there is nothing nice to say. At times though it's difficult for the adult to remain in the driver's seat when hurt feelings are involved.

I honestly don't follow SM much on any of the people so if I am wrong in my impression of Kacie then that is okay, I am always happy to learn.

This is just my opinion, but I see Andi rubbing off on Josh as well and that part makes me sad. I really adored Josh and family as they were.

I am sure it will even out in time.

Today is MM's birthday and she has already thanked everyone for the birthday wishes. It makes me very sad for this great momma that her boys are not getting along. Sorry, but to me know relationship is worth losing a good family for. I hope that both fiances will stop making it hard on this family.

by Kashathediva Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:50 am

I don't know if anyone isn't really "getting along".
2 out of the 3 children are going through major life changes. They are busy living adult lives and sometimes certain relationships take "pauses" simply due to demographics or reality or stress.
I could put their lives under my snarky microscope and point to each one of the parties and find issues, but then I look at my own family and the ebb and flow of things and think ---nah.

Personally, in my own family with adult children and their signifs, grandchild, many sibs etc---if everyone is healthy and doing ok--that is my own personal happiness. I'll take it!

by stuckinsc Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:59 am

Very true Kasha, if everyone is healthy that is good.

by luvlady345 Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:44 pm

What I don't get why is it somehow always for some get back around to pointing a finger Andi's way . Just because a family is all smiles and whatnot to the general public doesn't mean it's always like that behind the scenes. They aren't perfect but I am 100% sure they love each other but it doesn't mean they get al9ng all the time. Some will look for any excuse to blame Andi and I just dont get it. Like what is truly meant in written words on twitter or IG gets lost in translation.

by stuckinsc Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:49 pm

In an Andi discussion thread it is likely to come back to Andi. Just like the CT discussion thread seems to always come back to JPG. Andi isn't always wrong, but she isn't always perfect either and again it is a discussion thread so we can all post our opinions.

by luvlady345 Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:51 pm

Of course she isn't always right or perfect, it's the Josh and Andi discussion thread. But some seem to want to point the finger at Andi as the cause that there may or may not be friction between the Murrays which I find ridiculous. No matter how sly it maybe.

by Kashathediva Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:05 pm

It's a discussion thread.
It's an Andi and Josh discussion thread.
So any discussion along these lines are fine. Smiley

by nannymargie Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:00 pm

I don't know if this is the right place to post this. But Kacie put a picture of her and MM on facebook. She is holding a wedding planner which I assume MM gave her.

But she thanks her amazing future mother in law for spending her birthday weekend with her and Aaron.

by Alanna Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:06 pm

nannymargie wrote:I don't know if this is the right place to post this. But Kacie put a picture of her and MM on facebook. She is holding a wedding planner which I assume MM gave her.

But she thanks her amazing future mother in law for spending her birthday weekend with her and Aaron.

Thanks for posting! Sounds like the only thing Kacie might have forgotten is hashtag: #iwon

by **GuardianAngel** Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:09 pm

Alanna wrote:
nannymargie wrote:I don't know if this is the right place to post this. But Kacie put a picture of her and MM on facebook. She is holding a wedding planner which I assume MM gave her.

But she thanks her amazing future mother in law for spending her birthday weekend with her and Aaron.
Thanks for posting! Sounds like the only thing Kacie might have forgotten is hashtag: #iwon

I really am refraining from posting my opinion on this whole SM issue, because I don't care for Andi. You could say Andi could use the same hashtag. Just saying.

by nannymargie Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:18 pm

Aaron also posted this:

Happy birthday to the most amazing mother in the world!!! To be able to enjoy such a special weekend with my favorite girl was awesome Lauren Goodhart Murray

I sure hope they are not trying to make Josh feel bad because he wasn't there. Like MM said he put himself last for so long because of Aaron and Stephanie. It's his time to be happy and he should not be made to feel guilty because he is happy.

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