Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion

So Kacie favourited some tweets about Andi (which I did not know about), my question is what if there was a valid reason for doing so, maybe something happened between them that fueled this action. Still think, depending on what the tweets were, this is immature but to each their own.

Even if Kacie favourite these nasty things about Andi without any reason for doing so, which would piss Andi and Josh off, rightly so.... if this were me in Andi's shoes I would face Kacie myself and would talk it out. I would try and understand why Kacie feels this way and would do what I could to make this right. I would not allow this drama to reach beyond myself and this other person, I would not allow this to affect the family dynamic. Because that to me is more important than my own personal pride and for me to be "right".

I do not know any of situation between Andi, Kacie, Josh or Josh's family I have no idea if this is what is happening, I don't know if there even is a rift, but if this is the situation (which it very likely may not be the situation) that is my opinion on it.

Andi actually still follows Aaron, even though he unfollowed her. Has Andi unfollowed anybody in this family? Has she ever followed Kacie on social media?

Josh unfollowed his own mom, so I'd say something happened.

The family moved along in it's own smooth fashion regardless if the smooth was dysfunctional or functional for a long time. 
Then there was a new member added. MEandI. 
Whenever there is a change, adjustment is needed by all involved. Some have to bend more than others. I am sure it will all work out. Or it won't and things will adjust again accordingly. 
This is life.

Alanna wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:^ You're right, it's not fair to put it on any one person, but considering Kacie was favoriting nasty tweets about Andi before the season even finished airing, I would say it most likely stems from Kacie. After Kacie started doing that, it was not long after that It seems like Josh cut ties with her.

Yep, the moment I see Andi posting some duck face selfies in her sexiest little number, I'll re-evalute which Future Mrs. Murray is actually, secretly 12 years old. With that said, it might be time for Josh to go ahead and peel off Andi's yoga pants and dig out his big boy pants and do the great honor of extending some sm follows and friend requests to his family because Kacie about to be his baby sis in law. Aww! Schnuggles!

"Peel off Andi's yoga pants"....hehe! Alanna.... You. Always. Make. Me. laugh!

I agree that Andi is the 'mature" one but time for Josh to "do the right thing." Josh is the older, protective brother and I have no doubt he will focus on LOVE, and how very blessed they all are. :cutesmile!: Josh has a way of bringing out the best in everyone, Andi included. ;)

Ash2214 wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Bump!

Did I read that Andi and Kacie haven't met?

How old is Kacie? Aaron is so young!

Nope, Kacie and Andi haven't met yet - at least not that we have any public idea of anyway. Even while the season was airing kacie chose to favorite some not so nice things in regards to Andi. I wouldn't be surprised if Andi and Jish saw that. Shortly after that Josh unfollowed Kacie on Twitter and IG and deleted all of his pictures with her. Kacie is 24 and Aaron is 23. Also, since they started to date last winter their entire relationship has been long distance until she moved to KC about a month ago.

Just to clarify. Kacie and Aaron were dating during the 2013 football season. There are pics of them together from when she came down to watch him play. They have been together for at least a year and yes it was long distance as Aaron was the one who saw pictures of Kacie and sought her out.

bleuberry wrote:Andi actually still follows Aaron, even though he unfollowed her. Has Andi unfollowed anybody in this family? Has she ever followed Kacie on social media?

Josh unfollowed his own mom, so I'd say something happened.

Andi never followed kacie on any social media. Andi only followed Aaron and Stephanie and she still follows them on all social media. Aaron also still follows Andi's father and Hy still follows Aaron. Lauren also still follows Andi and Hy on social media as well.

If I had to guess just judging on when things appeared to happen and what not, I would bet Josh wasn't happy with the way Kacie was towards Andi. Maybe Aaron felt the same way about Andi towards Kacie. They all went to Aaron's game (minus Kacie) towards the end of August. Whatever happened between Aaron and Josh had to have happened in the past month or so. It appears that Aaron's proposal to Kacie was something he planned in advance. Stephanie and Kacie tweeted about this family weekend over a month ago. Timing wise, it certainly seems to fit. It wouldn't surprise me if Josh was informed by Aaron on his plans regarding a proposal. Considering there was already tension between Josh and Kacie, I would bet Josh wasn't too happy about it. I'm thinking that Lauren is just unfortunately the middle person. She posts pictures of all of her kids, which includes pictures of Kacie. Maybe Josh isn't mad at his mom and he just doesn't want to see pictures of Kacie haha. Who knows.

stuckinsc wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:

bleuberry wrote:Bump!

Did I read that Andi and Kacie haven't met?

How old is Kacie? Aaron is so young!

Nope, Kacie and Andi haven't met yet - at least not that we have any public idea of anyway. Even while the season was airing kacie chose to favorite some not so nice things in regards to Andi. I wouldn't be surprised if Andi and Jish saw that. Shortly after that Josh unfollowed Kacie on Twitter and IG and deleted all of his pictures with her. Kacie is 24 and Aaron is 23. Also, since they started to date last winter their entire relationship has been long distance until she moved to KC about a month ago.

Just to clarify.  Kacie and Aaron were dating during the 2013 football season.  There are pics of them together from when she came down to watch him play.  They have been together for at least a year and yes it was long distance as Aaron was the one who saw pictures of Kacie and sought her out.

Aaron actually answered this question on his Twitter before. They started dating in November right around his birthday. It hasn't be a year yet.

I don't follow Josh or Andi or anyone on twitter because I am not on twitter. I am FB friends with MM, she accepted a bunch of us when the season started. Kacie and MM are FB friends, this how MM does SM. So my question is why isn't Andi reaching out to MM on FB? I get it might not be her normal thing, but it would make a bridge.

When the show was airing and afterwards MM posted lots of nice pics of Andi and Josh and just last week posted a pic of them at the Decker fund raiser. She posts things about Kacie and Aaron when they are doing something, same a Josh and Andi. From following FB, I don't see her favoring any of her children more than the others.

Also, I don't think it is fair that Aaron and Kacie who were dating earlier and did it in a more natural way should have to wait to become engaged because Josh and Andi did a quick tv relationship, let's be honest, if Josh and Andi met the normal way and started dating in ATL in March, they probably wouldn't be engaged yet. They met in a unique way that somewhat forces a quick engagement. I don't think that means that everyone else's life should be put on hold for them. My first husband's little brother was married six months after we were. Both of us had the weddings we wanted and since my mother-in-law was the mother of the grooms she didn't have a hard time with two weddings. She even joked that it was good to be in wedding mode so she knew what she was doing. She told me that by my going first I made life easier on my sister-in-law, since they knew what to expect.

I have to say, I hate seeing the fans of Josh and Andi feel the need to say not nice things about Josh's family. Even if there is a family rift, I know that MM has seen posts from here, so it isn't very nice to see the "fans" of her son and his fiance insulting the rest of her family. Why is it necessary to even comment on the negative? Josh and Andi are happy, the family is shifting in it's dynamic. There has been a lot of change in Murray land since March, Josh got engaged, Aaron got drafted and moved to KC, Kacie moved to KC, they got engaged. Stephanie started dating her man. All three Murray siblings went from living close and near each other to being far apart and involved in serious relationships. That takes growing and adjusting, so they will grow and adjust, but at the end of the day they are family, so I don't think it is a great idea to insult some of Josh's family to support Andi and Josh. That is my opinion.

As far as SM insults, it might be good to check out Kelly Travis's twitter from around the time that Kacie favorited not nice things about Andi. Kelly seems to put on the bully tweets to the people Andi doesn't like. It has been a great system that allowed Andi to remain clean on SM and worked since it seems like KT doesn't care who likes or doesn't like her.

Ash2214 wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:

Nope, Kacie and Andi haven't met yet - at least not that we have any public idea of anyway. Even while the season was airing kacie chose to favorite some not so nice things in regards to Andi. I wouldn't be surprised if Andi and Jish saw that. Shortly after that Josh unfollowed Kacie on Twitter and IG and deleted all of his pictures with her. Kacie is 24 and Aaron is 23. Also, since they started to date last winter their entire relationship has been long distance until she moved to KC about a month ago.

Just to clarify.  Kacie and Aaron were dating during the 2013 football season.  There are pics of them together from when she came down to watch him play.  They have been together for at least a year and yes it was long distance as Aaron was the one who saw pictures of Kacie and sought her out.

Aaron actually answered this question on his Twitter before. They started dating in November right around his birthday. It hasn't be a year yet.

There was a picture of them together from October, but they may consider their anniversary November, heck her in the south August to early January is all one long college football season.

Kashathediva wrote:The family moved along in it's own smooth fashion regardless if the smooth was dysfunctional or functional for a long time. 
Then there was a new member added. MEandI. 
Whenever there is a change, adjustment is needed by all involved. Some have to bend more than others. I am sure it will all work out. Or it won't and things will adjust again accordingly. 
This is life.

Yup. Basically sums it up.

Andi's latest Insta about one happy family is too funny. I know Meryl Davis fans call her the Ixe Queen but they haven't met Andi Dorfman. No need to favorite any mean tweets from her, she can get the point across succinctly.

Alanna wrote:Andi's latest Insta about one happy family is too funny. I know Meryl Davis fans call her the Ixe Queen but they haven't met Andi Dorfman. No need to favorite any mean tweets from her, she can get the point across succinctly.

I see what she did there...